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WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 04:02 PM Nov 2022

My takeaway from last night. There are fewer ideologically flexible voters than ever before.

In 2022 there really are very few undecideds.

You've got two immovable objects.

It's funny to look back...

Look at the landslides of Nixon and Reagan.

Look at the near-landslides of Obama (x2)

People left their bias and ideology "comfort zones"...

For the foreseeable future we're now looking at WW1-like trench warfare... trenches on the left and trenches on the right and no one is crossing over.

Soldiers who wanted water didn't cross over to the other sides trench... they just went without water. Voters who don't like inflation didn't abandon their core philosophies to support GOP'ers.

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My takeaway from last night. There are fewer ideologically flexible voters than ever before. (Original Post) WarGamer Nov 2022 OP
Except Suburban women crossed over in the 2018 midterm griffi94 Nov 2022 #1
While the Red Wave never happened... WarGamer Nov 2022 #2
That would be true if they hadn't been heavily favored to win huge majorities. griffi94 Nov 2022 #3
Which goes back to my OP. WarGamer Nov 2022 #4
Ha Ha griffi94 Nov 2022 #5
It's Boomers vs Zoomers Yavin4 Nov 2022 #6
good points... WarGamer Nov 2022 #7
I would say it's more so a combination of Millennials/Zoomers vs Boomers/Xers Jspur Nov 2022 #8

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
1. Except Suburban women crossed over in the 2018 midterm
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 04:41 PM
Nov 2022

And a lot of those women would historically be voting GOP, except Roe was overturned.
I think a lot of middle-of-the-road voters crossed to the Democrats who would have voted GOP
had the GOP put up more moderate candidates.
If the GOP continues to put MAGAs who come off as insane on the ballot, I expect they will continue to
lose elections. However, I think the establishment GOP will now start to reassert control. DeSantis will be their new champion and as soon as he doesn't need the MAGAs to win his primary, he'll soften his stance and his rhetoric.

WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
2. While the Red Wave never happened...
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 04:42 PM
Nov 2022

GOP still looking to pick up 10-15 House seats... not a bad enough result for the GOP to think that any major lesson will be sent.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
3. That would be true if they hadn't been heavily favored to win huge majorities.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 04:50 PM
Nov 2022

MAGA is only going to increase the drag on the GOP. Like the Tea Party, it's not sustainable.
The only policy they have is, Own the Libs".
If Warnock wins the runoff, Georgia will truly be a purple state. Same with Arizona. The loss of those two states by the GOP
is going to make the credible members of the GOP either purge or isolate the remaining MAGAS.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
6. It's Boomers vs Zoomers
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 05:26 PM
Nov 2022

Demographics are playing a huge role in this trench warfare. Zoomers lean more progressive because they're not living in an age of cheap abundance like Boomers did. Housing, healthcare, education, transportation were all far cheaper and much more affordable for Boomers than Zoomers.

Also, career prospects were much better for Boomers. With just a college degree, you could work for a corporation until retirement. Case in point, look at the Twitter layoffs. It's ridiculously hard getting a job at Twitter, but even when you do, you can fired at any time for any reason.

Jspur

(578 posts)
8. I would say it's more so a combination of Millennials/Zoomers vs Boomers/Xers
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 06:39 PM
Nov 2022

Keep in mind the youngest Millennials are now in their late 20's while the oldest are in their early 40's. This generation has also been screwed over like Zoomers and have similar views on healthcare, housing, education, transportation. The Xers pretty much kept the status quo intact after the Boomers established it so they have mainly voted with them. Millennials were the first generation to try to change what the Boomers did but failed and now you have the Zoomers coming in trying to change the system. I have a feeling Millennials are not going to stand in the Zoomers way much like Xers did when they chose to support the Boomers

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