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Get off Twitter while you can. (Original Post) icymist Nov 2022 OP
If you wanted to destroy Twitter on purpose Musk is doing a great job...makes you wonder. Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #1
It's like Musk took $44BB dollars and started a bonfire. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2022 #14
Absolutely! I have driven a Chevy Volt for eight years thought my next car would be a Tesla OMGWTF Nov 2022 #15
Just got a free battery replacement on my 2011, so I won't ever need a Tesla JCMach1 Nov 2022 #36
I hope Rebl2 Nov 2022 #41
I hope Musk goes broke JCMach1 Nov 2022 #43
👍 Rebl2 Nov 2022 #48
From your keyboard to God's ear Kennah Nov 2022 #49
Burning it down has great ROI for pro-fascist very large scale investors NullTuples Nov 2022 #24
True. Delphinus Nov 2022 #39
Taking down and plugging the sewer that is Twitter is fine with me. Use the phone. Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #53
That is a nonsensical response. Calls are 1-to-1. Not a way to disseminate information efficiently NullTuples Nov 2022 #56
Some of us have twitter blocked or temporarily disabled Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #2
Here you go... icymist Nov 2022 #3
thank you d_r Nov 2022 #5
The gist of it is that the top people who left were the ones telling him how to not get sued NullTuples Nov 2022 #25
Class action lawsuits to follow? Freethinker65 Nov 2022 #4
When @JOEBIDEN or @POTUS starts to follow me, I'll worry. brooklynite Nov 2022 #6
Question. Can the old Twitter employees band up... ananda Nov 2022 #7
That's what... 2naSalit Nov 2022 #11
me too ananda Nov 2022 #47
Someone could, it's not rocket science ToxMarz Nov 2022 #21
Co-founder of Twitter is working on "Blue Sky". mwooldri Nov 2022 #26
He's in cahoots with musk. we can do it Nov 2022 #50
There are at least 20 as we speak, and that's the problem. NullTuples Nov 2022 #27
What does quitting accomplish? Strelnikov_ Nov 2022 #8
Not if you downloaded an archive & then deleted your entire tweet history when he bought it. NullTuples Nov 2022 #29
Soon. All of Twitters users will fit In a Tesla Captain Zero Nov 2022 #9
+1 2naSalit Nov 2022 #12
Elon posted the opposite womanofthehills Nov 2022 #59
My account has no real personal info in it TlalocW Nov 2022 #10
Same here. ShazzieB Nov 2022 #18
I just checked and only info they have Tree Lady Nov 2022 #20
Same here jmbar2 Nov 2022 #28
If you use the phone app, your data is not anonymous at all & it may access to your personal info NullTuples Nov 2022 #31
That's the rub. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 2022 #54
And that data can include your location at any moment, your contacts, your phone records, your texts NullTuples Nov 2022 #55
Same here. It's quite entertaining once you get past being annoyed, then it gets annoying some more. Emrys Nov 2022 #38
Related: Elon Musk is putting Twitter at risk of billions in fines, warns company lawyer icymist Nov 2022 #13
He feels more and more like Trump with every news story. NullTuples Nov 2022 #32
He sure does! icymist Nov 2022 #34
So hackers are going to know I like pizza? 48656c6c6f20 Nov 2022 #16
Do you use the same Twitter password in other places? icymist Nov 2022 #19
No. And I use seperate accounts for social media. 48656c6c6f20 Nov 2022 #22
Do you use the Twitter phone/tablet app? If so, potentially all that data is theirs, too. And his. NullTuples Nov 2022 #33
I think you either need a sarcasm emoji or a dose of reality. Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #35
Hey just because other people don't take security serious 48656c6c6f20 Nov 2022 #45
Sure. What kind do you like? Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #63
It's a complex world. I did not mean to P you off. I like the Bronx (pepperoni/ green pepper). Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #64
Please proceed Gov-Elon-or VGNonly Nov 2022 #17
No offense to DU Twitter users... johnnyfins Nov 2022 #23
There are communities that form on Twitter, just like DU. jmbar2 Nov 2022 #30
I belong to a number of overlapping groupings or webs on Twitter. NullTuples Nov 2022 #37
I think that same thing. Major loss. PlutosHeart Nov 2022 #46
I use it mostly for wildfire and weather updates jeffreyi Nov 2022 #57
He got funding from The Saudi's and Chinese as I understand it Bristlecone Nov 2022 #40
Prince Alwaleed has been a major stockholder at Twitter for 10 yrs womanofthehills Nov 2022 #51
Deleted my account last week. RustyWheels Nov 2022 #42
I had a burner account with zero personal information... Justice matters. Nov 2022 #44
Even though my account is of no consequence, Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #52
I like twitter. Mosby Nov 2022 #58
I like Twitter too womanofthehills Nov 2022 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Nov 2022 #61
I'm not sure how to do that. DFW Nov 2022 #62

OAITW r.2.0

(31,402 posts)
14. It's like Musk took $44BB dollars and started a bonfire.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 06:53 PM
Nov 2022

For what purpose? To ruin a media that made fun of him? I suspect that he doesn't really know his customers - the people who are buying his Tesla cars. They aren't pro-Big Oil Republicans. He may see this Twitter fiasco bleed into his Tesla business.

Well done, Elon!

OMGWTF

(5,005 posts)
15. Absolutely! I have driven a Chevy Volt for eight years thought my next car would be a Tesla
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:19 PM
Nov 2022

but no more. I'd be embarrassed to own one now. There are so many great electric cars coming on the market.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
24. Burning it down has great ROI for pro-fascist very large scale investors
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:38 PM
Nov 2022

With one investment, take down the world's largest platform for resistance to find each other, share info & organize?

You can't put a price tag on that.

Delphinus

(12,468 posts)
39. True.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:56 PM
Nov 2022

It took me forever to understand Twitter but I like it. I'm not on Instagram and only on groups on Facebook, but Twitter I will miss.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
56. That is a nonsensical response. Calls are 1-to-1. Not a way to disseminate information efficiently
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:01 PM
Nov 2022

And they're also siloed meaning you can only call & share info with people you already know and trust with your phone number.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
3. Here you go...
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 05:56 PM
Nov 2022
1/ Just want to put this news in plain language for people.

Senior people at Twitter have resigned in the last 48 hours. We now now why. They said in private Slack channels that @elonmusk is so desperate to recoup his money, he’s taking crazy risks with YOUR privacy and safety.
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2/ Right now, Twitter is extremely hackable. That puts every user here at extreme risk for DM leaks, identity theft and surveillance.

Elon doesn’t care. He wants his money. So they resigned. And top lawyers told Twitter employees to get whistleblower protections.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
25. The gist of it is that the top people who left were the ones telling him how to not get sued
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:40 PM
Nov 2022

for violating laws and regulations that can trigger large fines & the like.

Like Trump, he doesn't care for others knowing more than him so he told them to buzz off.

Which they did.

Freethinker65

(11,202 posts)
4. Class action lawsuits to follow?
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 05:59 PM
Nov 2022

I deactivated last week. I assumed all would be deleted in 30 days.

ToxMarz

(2,737 posts)
21. Someone could, it's not rocket science
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:32 PM
Nov 2022

At this point the knowledge to do it is well established. It just takes money. And all the money wants to make money on their money, which is where it falls apart since a reliable reputable social media company is not gonna generate the return the capitalists require.

mwooldri

(10,786 posts)
26. Co-founder of Twitter is working on "Blue Sky".
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:41 PM
Nov 2022

A kind of "decentralised Twitter". Been in the works since 2019. Idea is that users own their own data and if X social network is no longer a good fit for them, they can move to Y social network easily. Interesting concept.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
27. There are at least 20 as we speak, and that's the problem.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:42 PM
Nov 2022

Twitter had a decade-plus of inertia & has become a platform where people who would normally not do so, find each other due to common interests or goals. Despite being in demographics that otherwise wouldn't overlap.

Every one of the alternatives is siloed by demographic, interest, etc.. - there's no cross pollination of news & ideas between them.

Strelnikov_

(8,095 posts)
8. What does quitting accomplish?
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 06:15 PM
Nov 2022

Your data will still be floating around in some database that just got sold.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
29. Not if you downloaded an archive & then deleted your entire tweet history when he bought it.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:45 PM
Nov 2022

That may be possible, but I'd guess that at some point soon he will block it as that data is money. And the less ethical restrictions he puts on how that data is sold and used, the more money he'll make from it. That's one reason the top data security / ethics people quit recently.

womanofthehills

(10,696 posts)
59. Elon posted the opposite
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:04 PM
Nov 2022

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It’s probably like the Joe Rogan thing - when everyone hated him, he got millions of new listeners.

Twitter is world wide with only about 20% of users being in US. Japan had almost as many Twitter users as US. World users of Twitter is expanding but one million American users quit.

Tree Lady

(12,979 posts)
20. I just checked and only info they have
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:27 PM
Nov 2022

Is my email. I never gave my phone or any address and I used it just to follow people I never tweeted. I will delete if things get worse. Right now I rarely even look at it.

jmbar2

(7,566 posts)
28. Same here
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:44 PM
Nov 2022

I have no personal posts, only exchanges with other daytraders and political posters. Not worried.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
31. If you use the phone app, your data is not anonymous at all & it may access to your personal info
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:47 PM
Nov 2022

That's why so many corporations push so hard for people to use their apps "for free".

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
55. And that data can include your location at any moment, your contacts, your phone records, your texts
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 11:59 AM
Nov 2022

So many people don't realize just how silently invasive phone apps can be if created and run by an unethical company.

Emrys

(8,910 posts)
38. Same here. It's quite entertaining once you get past being annoyed, then it gets annoying some more.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:55 PM
Nov 2022

Never tweeted, never interacted with anything on Twitter except voting in the odd poll and reporting some accounts for being beyond the pale.

I just read it on my laptop with Firefox and Ghostery and a suitably potent antivirus program, and sometimes post stuff from it on DU.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
13. Related: Elon Musk is putting Twitter at risk of billions in fines, warns company lawyer
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 06:29 PM
Nov 2022
Meanwhile, Musk’s personal lawyer is telling people, ‘Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.’

witter’s privacy and security teams are in turmoil after Elon Musk’s changes to the service bypassed its standard data governance processes. Now, a company lawyer is encouraging employees to seek whistleblower protection “if you feel uncomfortable about anything you’re being asked to do.”

The company’s chief privacy officer Damien Kieran, chief information security officer Lea Kissner, and chief compliance officer Marianne Fogarty have all resigned, according to two employees and an internal message seen by The Verge. Kissner confirmed their departure in a tweet on Thursday.

In a note posted to Twitter’s Slack and viewable to all staff that was obtained by The Verge, an attorney on the company’s privacy team wrote, “Elon has shown that his only priority with Twitter users is how to monetize them. I do not believe he cares about the human rights activists. the dissidents, our users in un-monetizable regions, and all the other users who have made Twitter the global town square you have all spent so long building, and we all love.”

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/10/23451198/twitter-ftc-elon-musk-lawyer-changes-fine-warning

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If you wish to remain on Twitter, go ahead and trust the guy who thought an accelerated cruise control was fine and dandy as a self-drive mechanism.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
19. Do you use the same Twitter password in other places?
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:25 PM
Nov 2022

Do you use applications you found at Twitter? That's what's going to be out there, not to mention any other information they can find.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
22. No. And I use seperate accounts for social media.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:35 PM
Nov 2022

Like I said, if they want to know I'll tell em. I'm a Lou's person. Sometimes I'm a Gino's if I want tavern style.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
33. Do you use the Twitter phone/tablet app? If so, potentially all that data is theirs, too. And his.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:49 PM
Nov 2022
 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
45. Hey just because other people don't take security serious
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:45 PM
Nov 2022

Doesn't mean I don't. Trust me. I segregate life on phones. I have a work phone, a posting to social media web sites phone and then I have my friends and family only phone. I don't need a dose of reality because I know what da fuck I'm doing and I have the means to protect myself.
So do you want to know what kind of pizza I like. If not step off.

Evolve Dammit

(21,446 posts)
64. It's a complex world. I did not mean to P you off. I like the Bronx (pepperoni/ green pepper).
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 05:39 PM
Nov 2022

johnnyfins

(3,401 posts)
23. No offense to DU Twitter users...
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:36 PM
Nov 2022

...but it always struck me as a "Look at ME" platform. much like Facebook. I know there are communication benefits, but Twitter always rubbed me the wrong way for some reason. Thanks Elon, for fucking it up and out of existence...

jmbar2

(7,566 posts)
30. There are communities that form on Twitter, just like DU.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:47 PM
Nov 2022

My community is daytraders. They post really good analysis, videos of trading techniques, stock news, etc. There is nothing else comparable.

Most of the good posters also have Discords, so if Twitter gets too messed up, we just go to the individual Discords. But having all the communities cross-posting is best. I'm not seeing any changes so far in my communities, but we are prepared to move quickly to Discords if it gets too messed up.

Some of the traders are making a lot of money shorting TSLA. I don't trade that one, but there's a small silver lining for some in Mush's self-immolation.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
37. I belong to a number of overlapping groupings or webs on Twitter.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:53 PM
Nov 2022

Autistics, Neurodivergent, LGBTQ, transgender, Democratic Party, anti-fascism, disabilities, etc, etc.

Those networks were focused not on "look at me" but on, "are you okay", "hey, this just happened", "we need to organize to stop this" and so on.

And because it's been around for a decade-plus, those networks were not siloed and insular as they tend to be on other platforms. News quickly spread from one to another. This resulted in both an outpouring of support for each other, but also political and social organizing and actions.

That is going to be real loss, especially in the fight against Republicans and other pro-fascism groups worldwide.

PlutosHeart

(1,445 posts)
46. I think that same thing. Major loss.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:49 PM
Nov 2022

There is nothing like it in effectiveness in organizing and news spreading.
If his goal is to shutter free speech and information he seems well on the way to it.

jeffreyi

(2,506 posts)
57. I use it mostly for wildfire and weather updates
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:24 PM
Nov 2022

And at times this is essential information. I think I will excuse myself from Twitter, though, if I can figure out how.

Bristlecone

(10,992 posts)
40. He got funding from The Saudi's and Chinese as I understand it
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:09 PM
Nov 2022

Trump’s Truth platform is failing.

Perhaps, Elon is trying to destroy Twitter from the inside out at the direction of outside influencers that would like to lift Trump up financially.

Twitter goes away, Truth gets a lift, Trump gets money

Maybe it’s all just a laundering scheme.

womanofthehills

(10,696 posts)
51. Prince Alwaleed has been a major stockholder at Twitter for 10 yrs
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 10:36 PM
Nov 2022

Nothing new here. He rolled over his investment to Elon.

Justice matters.

(9,307 posts)
44. I had a burner account with zero personal information...
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:32 PM
Nov 2022

Always accessed it throughout my VPN (Surfshark).

So to leave it there LOCKED permanently, I just entered a false birth date that made me having less than the required age at signup.

They still have the online burner email account I created for registering and any email I get from that fascists-terrorists cesspool now will be flagged as SPAM to go straight into the spam folder.

Tetrachloride

(9,337 posts)
52. Even though my account is of no consequence,
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 05:59 AM
Nov 2022

my email might be less than anonymous.

Account deactivated.

Mosby

(19,219 posts)
58. I like twitter.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:43 PM
Nov 2022

I get to say what I want, unlike some other places.

There are trolls everywhere, including DU.

womanofthehills

(10,696 posts)
60. I like Twitter too
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:12 PM
Nov 2022

So much info if you follow the right people. Also, a recent study of Twitter showed way more Dems post than Republicans - almost two to one. Probably because study mentioned - most people on Twitter were college educated and between the ages of 25 to 35.

Response to womanofthehills (Reply #60)

DFW

(59,703 posts)
62. I'm not sure how to do that.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:30 PM
Nov 2022

Don't you first have to be ON Twitter before you can get OFF Twitter?

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