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Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:30 PM

What does everyone think: Does the Senate win diminish Manchin's position or not?

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Reply What does everyone think: Does the Senate win diminish Manchin's position or not? (Original post)
Thomas Hurt Nov 12 OP
edhopper Nov 12 #1
Cosmocat Nov 12 #24
intrepidity Nov 12 #2
Raven123 Nov 12 #3
onecaliberal Nov 12 #4
bottomofthehill Nov 12 #8
leftieNanner Nov 12 #10
msfiddlestix Nov 13 #28
FakeNoose Nov 12 #21
kirby Nov 12 #5
FakeNoose Nov 12 #20
Takket Nov 12 #6
Kittycatkat Nov 12 #7
RandySF Nov 12 #9
bottomofthehill Nov 12 #11
Fiendish Thingy Nov 12 #19
bottomofthehill Nov 12 #23
Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #25
DemocraticPatriot Nov 12 #13
Fiendish Thingy Nov 12 #17
brush Nov 12 #12
DemocraticPatriot Nov 12 #14
brush Nov 12 #15
DemocraticPatriot Nov 12 #18
Fiendish Thingy Nov 12 #16
Demsrule86 Nov 12 #22
LeftInTX Nov 13 #26
stopdiggin Nov 13 #27
anamnua Nov 13 #29



Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:32 PM

2. Of course it does

If only marginally, but yes.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:32 PM

3. If Warnock wins, we have a cushion.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:33 PM

4. Put our collective heads down and get to work for Warnock.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:40 PM

8. Correct. If Walker wins, it will be a race to flip

Mitch McConnell will dangle the world to Manchin and Senima with a Walker win, he only needs one, with a Warnock hold he needs them both. Senima may be the first to take the deal.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:44 PM

10. Yep

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:44 AM

28. yes, I agree. Quite possibly it's something party leadership could mitigate in advance.

But that is presumming too much and inserting fantasy.

So the reality of both of their inclinations (let's just call it) is rather predictable for the most part. My worries are both jumping ship.

We badly need reliable Senators in play, so we have to flip up coming races in 2024 I believe is the next opportunity.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:34 PM

5. Unless he switches party n/t

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Response to kirby (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 11:03 PM

20. That will never happen - Manchin is proud of his membership in the Democratic Party

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:35 PM

6. only if warnock wins. without that the numbers are exactly the same

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:36 PM

7. With 51 seats we can say, "who". With 50 seats we have to know his f#$king name.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:41 PM

9. I bet he switches parties if it stays 50-50

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Response to RandySF (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:44 PM

11. Watch for Sinema to go first

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 11:01 PM

19. Only if she plans to retire in 2024

No way could she win a GOP primary.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 11:09 PM

23. Rubin Gallego is already talking about running against her in a democratic primary

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 12:16 AM

25. Yup- her senate career ends in 2024. Nt

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Response to RandySF (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:58 PM

17. Only if he plans to retire in 2024

Manchin could never win a GOP primary in WV.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:46 PM

12. Now we'll just have to try to satisfy only one of...

him or Sinema countless times for them to stop pulling the football away from us at the last minute like Lucy does to Charlie Brown.

And that of course depends on Sen. Warnock winning in Georgia.

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Response to brush (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:51 PM

14. It would all seem to matter less,

if we do not also control the House...


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Response to brush (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:59 PM

18. But there is still an outside chance for Dem control of the House---

something most of us would not have predicted, 5 days after the election...

I pray for some "surprises" in California, and anywhere else that the counting of votes is not completed yet...


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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:57 PM

16. Nope. He's still the most powerful man in America.

Even if we get to 51, if Manchin opposes a bill, Sinema will too. We needed 52 to prevent their obstruction.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 11:08 PM

22. If we get the Warnock, we have one more Senator...but we needed two to counter

Sinema and Manchin. But I'll take it for the judges and if we keep the house we could pass some legislation.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 12:19 AM

26. No

Everyone complained about him when we had a larger majority

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 01:51 AM

27. very little. if at all. -(nt)-

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:56 AM

29. The question has to be asked:

will there be Repub versions of Manchin in the House?

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