Forget the Debt Ceiling. Let the GOP shut down the govt while demanding cuts to

[ZonkerHarris]

Social Security and Medicare in exchange next year.

Let them be public about their goals and defend them on Meet The Press etc

You go GOP. You grab that third rail like Tarzan swinging on a vine.

Go ahead GOP, Make My Fucking Day.

That is exactly the knife we will need in 2024 so go ahead and arm us with it.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

1. Agreed. Bring it, traitorous MF'ers.

[Demsrule86]

2. If they breach the debt ceiling, we will end up in a depression.

[gab13by13]

5. Absolutely, plus it will affect the global economy.

We won't have to worry about inflation, we will have deflation.

[ZonkerHarris]

17. a Republican Depression

[vlyons]

3. Cut SS and a lot of inlaws will be looking to move in with your pissed off constituents

You thought women were pissed about outlawing abortion? Just wait til seniors lose their only income.

[gab13by13]

7. They plan to phase it out gradually.

[gab13by13]

4. Social Security and Medicare are hills to take a stand on but...

shutting down the government for a lengthy period will cause a global economic disaster.

[ZonkerHarris]

12. only if the GOP is that fucking stupid. hmmmm....

[inthewind21]

19. Well

Let's see. Most republican thought process, "I have millions and can ride out a depression." Can you?

[ZonkerHarris]

20. they are very egocentric

[republianmushroom]

6. I like it

[gab13by13]

8. Speaker Pelosi is correct to address this now,

Democrats need to make it clear to Manchin and Sinema that they will be blamed for our economic collapse.

[MarcA]

10. +1000 n/t

[ZonkerHarris]

13. When the GOP makes their stand they can choose a side.

[RockRaven]

9. The debt ceiling and government shutdowns are two different things.

Both disasters, yes, but not the same thing. There are two hostages the 'pukes are threatening (and will re-threaten repeatedly).

[Ohio Joe]

11. 100% Agree

Well said

[PortTack]

15. Agree! Their whole plan is to blame a dem president for the loss of those programs

President Biden is not only too smart for that, he cares too much to do that

[ZonkerHarris]

16. Holding the Senate saved us there. Now let the House GOP go out on the limb alone.

[inthewind21]

18. Ummm

Cutting off your nose to spite your face never ends well. Just sayin

[liberalmediaaddict]

21. Bad idea

Most Americans have no idea what the debt ceiling is.
Republican will frame it (again) as trying to cut wasteful government spending and lower the deficit. They and Fox News will portay Democrats as tax and spend socialists.

Best for Democrats to do everything possible to extend the debt limit before the lunatics take control in January.

[ZonkerHarris]

22. You think Americans don't understand their Social Security checks? This fight is about THEIR money