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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 07:51 AM Nov 2022

We are going to witness a perfect example of how extremism destroys itself in the end.

People like Jim Jordan, McCarthy and others refused to answer a subpoena from the J6 committee. That means they are afraid, hiding something. They were a part of J6 in some way. They are compromised. They are weak. They are illegitimate.

Now, Jim Jordan is going to leading many of the investigations. He has the power to subpoena people. Jordan refuses to answer a legit subpoena and now he is going to subpoena people? Good fucking luck you traitor. The Democrats are going to tear their investigations to pieces.

The extremists, the traitors, are going to look like the fools they are.

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We are going to witness a perfect example of how extremism destroys itself in the end. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Nov 2022 OP
HYPOCRITES!! ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2022 #1
If Gym was covering for that team doctor, what did the guy have on Gym? n/t brewens Nov 2022 #2
The greatest factor... 2naSalit Nov 2022 #3
Nancy will have more time to strategize and mentor her successors bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #19
That's what gives me hope. 2naSalit Nov 2022 #26
Senate DemUnleashed Nov 2022 #4
I think they are getting ready to present evidence, wind up. True Blue American Nov 2022 #6
Marjorie Traitor Greene was in office THREE DAYS and asked for a pardon. tanyev Nov 2022 #5
For her reconnaissance tours and planting pipe bombs of course. canuckledragger Nov 2022 #13
... tanyev Nov 2022 #15
Because, in spite of her actions, she does have insight MedRxx Nov 2022 #20
and in the meantime, many lives will be ruined MissMillie Nov 2022 #7
Should we fight their subpoenas? Not the best idea when standing for rule of law bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #8
Just don't show up Historic NY Nov 2022 #9
I would do some compliance. Partial. mwooldri Nov 2022 #17
Agreed. When it's strategically valuable, sure, show up. paleotn Nov 2022 #23
No, let's not stoop to their level. However... MissMillie Nov 2022 #14
Doesn't the standing rule of law allow us the right to fight a subpoena? Hotler Nov 2022 #28
And the law is coming. His name is Jack Smith, and he looks fierce. Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #10
Keep the light of truth shining on them COL Mustard Nov 2022 #11
Yes, because Dems will likely show up and tell the truth like HRC did. She made them look like Samrob Nov 2022 #12
Kremlin Kevin and cohorts ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #16
Not only extremism, but dishonesty and moral degeneracy too vlyons Nov 2022 #18
REPUBOCRITES... MiHale Nov 2022 #21
Ignore their subpoenas. Make them go to the courts. paleotn Nov 2022 #22
Let's hope that is the case but you seem to forget.... nightwing1240 Nov 2022 #24
Jordon, McCarthy, and others refused to comply with subpoenas because of GUILT Martin Eden Nov 2022 #25
No subpoena from Gym is legitimate if Captain Zero Nov 2022 #27
WHY are these fuckers still there if they don't comply Skittles Nov 2022 #30
Any elected Democrat who is subpoenaed will appear. Bet on it. Autumn Nov 2022 #29
I agree. Mr.Bill Nov 2022 #31
The sad thing is they're going to hurt people in the mean time Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2022 #32
Just ignore their subpoenas. roamer65 Nov 2022 #33

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,793 posts)
1. HYPOCRITES!!
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 08:01 AM
Nov 2022

Repugnant people like Gym Jordan, Kevin McCarthy, MTG will be exposed through their own hypocrisy when it comes time for subpoenas. Those Democrats they are going after in order to make names for themselves can bring the fact up some of them were asked to come before the J6 committee and thumbed their noses. So Democrats need to pay hardball because they know that these investigations will be nothing short of clown shows on taxpayers' dimes. What did hours upon hours of Benghazi hearings find? NOTHING wrong was done!

2naSalit

(86,796 posts)
3. The greatest factor...
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 08:07 AM
Nov 2022

In our favor is that our House members aren't stupid like the zombiesforfascism. And we still have Nancy through the upcoming Congress so they had best be careful - they won't, can't help themselves. So on the Democratic side there are amazing Constitutional scholars and practitioners who have respect for the rule of law.

I think our lineup will outwit the living daylights out of this kkkrowd of kkklowns.

bucolic_frolic

(43,296 posts)
19. Nancy will have more time to strategize and mentor her successors
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 10:28 AM
Nov 2022

and her successors will have more teeth ... this could get very very good

tanyev

(42,618 posts)
5. Marjorie Traitor Greene was in office THREE DAYS and asked for a pardon.
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 09:04 AM
Nov 2022

I really, really want to know why she thought she needed one.

MissMillie

(38,581 posts)
7. and in the meantime, many lives will be ruined
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 09:06 AM
Nov 2022

Marginalized people did not volunteer to be guinea pigs for the GOP, but that's exactly what's about to happen.

Some of these marginalized people actually believed GOP candidates when the candidates told them they'd fix crime and inflation. None of them expected that their problems would take a back-seat to investigations into Hunter Biden, Fauci, Garland, et al.

They're about to be left out in the cold--some of them literally.

bucolic_frolic

(43,296 posts)
8. Should we fight their subpoenas? Not the best idea when standing for rule of law
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 09:28 AM
Nov 2022

But I do think we should scream "WITCH HUNT!" at every turn

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
17. I would do some compliance. Partial.
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 10:15 AM
Nov 2022

Then shut it down. Apparently DOJ doesn't prosecute those who partially comply with congressional subpoenas. Yes I'm looking at Mark Meadows. Don't be like Steve Bannon though.

paleotn

(17,970 posts)
23. Agreed. When it's strategically valuable, sure, show up.
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 10:56 AM
Nov 2022

If it's not, make them go to the courts to enforce. As we've seen, that takes forever and THEY'VE set the precedent.

MissMillie

(38,581 posts)
14. No, let's not stoop to their level. However...
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 09:57 AM
Nov 2022

What we could say is, "What does my testimony have to do with inflation? The GOP promised us relief from inflation. The voters believed them. I don't see how my testimony forwards that agenda."

Hotler

(11,445 posts)
28. Doesn't the standing rule of law allow us the right to fight a subpoena?
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 12:48 PM
Nov 2022

Just like in racing, always use the rules to your advantage.

COL Mustard

(5,927 posts)
11. Keep the light of truth shining on them
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 09:40 AM
Nov 2022

They’ll be very uncomfortable with their “how it started/how it’s going” moments.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
12. Yes, because Dems will likely show up and tell the truth like HRC did. She made them look like
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 09:45 AM
Nov 2022

shredded puppets.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
18. Not only extremism, but dishonesty and moral degeneracy too
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 10:28 AM
Nov 2022

We really don't have to worry about whomever they subpoena, because those people just need to answer the questions honestly and deny all the crackpot accusations. Dems have nothing to hide. Dems didn't construct a gallows and beat the crap out of capitol police, or defacate in the halls of the capitol.

It's just a shame that for the next 2 years, they won't be interested in passing any legislation that benefits the American people. I guess the positive side is that the majority of voters will be disgusted and fed up with their stupid shit-show. What a waste of time.

All it will take from us is to put forward candidates, who are decent people with a political agenda that would benefit the American people. Ya know, 1st class candidates like --- Joe Biden.

paleotn

(17,970 posts)
22. Ignore their subpoenas. Make them go to the courts.
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 10:53 AM
Nov 2022

They have zero legitimacy on this issue. They set the precedent.

No, I'm serious. Just fucking ignore their subpoenas in most cases. Tell them to go pound sand. Paraphrase Jackson on the issue..."I'll comply when they show they have the ability to actually enforce it."

nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
24. Let's hope that is the case but you seem to forget....
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 10:58 AM
Nov 2022

...the millions upon millions of gullible Americans that vote and trust these bastards. Until we can shut off the propaganda machine (Faux News and others) and the politicians and other commentators that echo all the lies and bullshit, this country is in jeopardy. Yes we dodged a bullet this past election but this nightmare is far from over.

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
25. Jordon, McCarthy, and others refused to comply with subpoenas because of GUILT
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 11:21 AM
Nov 2022

They are personally guilty of crimes or they have knowledge that would confirm the GUILT of their cohorts all the way up to Trump.

If the J6 investigation was in fact nothing but a partisan abuse of power by a weaponized Justice Dept as they claim, they would be highly motivated to testify with truth on their side.

But, of course, truth is NOT on their side. They are knee deep in the Big Lie and attempted coup.

It is THEY who are eager to weaponize the power of Congress, motivated by revenge and deflection.

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
27. No subpoena from Gym is legitimate if
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 12:29 PM
Nov 2022
He didn't recognize the legitimacy of any congressional subpoenas to him.

Fuck him sideways when he issues one.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
30. WHY are these fuckers still there if they don't comply
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 01:02 AM
Nov 2022

isn't that what they are always telling POC: JUST COMPLY!!!!!!!!!!!

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