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Why do we continue to let red state governors ship migrants (Original Post) CrispyQ Nov 2022 OP
I don't understand how this is legal Skittles Nov 2022 #1
Really? Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #8
yes I know religion is a bunch of nonsense Skittles Nov 2022 #14
Not exactly easy to enforce prohibition, try to write a law prohibiting such. elleng Nov 2022 #2
One needs to ask our DoJ republianmushroom Nov 2022 #3
Nobody is being "shipped"... brooklynite Nov 2022 #4
I hear you,,,, KarenS Nov 2022 #5
And nobody forced a bunch of young women to trust Ted Bundy Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #10
Ted Bundy committeed murder. brooklynite Nov 2022 #13
DeSantis is accused of fraud in a civil suit... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #23
It has to a tremendous burden on the border states to take in doc03 Nov 2022 #6
Every major entry point in this country Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #11
+1 -nt CrispyQ Nov 2022 #18
K&R UTUSN Nov 2022 #7
People have to vote them out of office JI7 Nov 2022 #9
The problem is the red state governors would rather keep the issue to drive politics Trenzalore Nov 2022 #12
If I was one of those immigrants Mr.Bill Nov 2022 #15
So that makes it right? CrispyQ Nov 2022 #17
No it doesn't. Mr.Bill Nov 2022 #19
Agree it's probably better to be anywhere but TX or FL, CrispyQ Nov 2022 #21
I've lived in Northern California since 1961. Mr.Bill Nov 2022 #22
This plays so well for Red-State Govenors that its worth it. SYFROYH Nov 2022 #16
Who's "we"? maxsolomon Nov 2022 #20

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
1. I don't understand how this is legal
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 08:27 PM
Nov 2022

and I don't understand how people who claim to be "CHRISTIAN" can support this in ANY way

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
8. Really?
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 09:19 AM
Nov 2022
And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.


Matthew 15:22-26

Sure, he eventually helped her. But only after abusing her to her face repeatedly. And, oh yeah, after receiving much groveling from her up front.

So are you still surprised that people following a guy who would call a foreign woman and her child "dogs" to the mom's face would have no great love for foreign migrants? Maybe if the migrants groveled a bit more, they'd get better treatment?

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
14. yes I know religion is a bunch of nonsense
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 04:43 PM
Nov 2022

but what part of DO UNTO OTHERS are they fucking missing?

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
4. Nobody is being "shipped"...
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:02 PM
Nov 2022

They are voluntarily choosing to go.


FWIW, why is it better to be in Texas than, say, NY or Massachusetts.

KarenS

(4,075 posts)
5. I hear you,,,,
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:18 PM
Nov 2022

While they are 'volunteering' to go, it is after being lied to.

But truly some have ended up in better places.

It is shameful though that it is happening using these folks as political pawns is terrible.

The cognitive dissonance is huge on this issue for me.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
10. And nobody forced a bunch of young women to trust Ted Bundy
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 09:25 AM
Nov 2022

They voluntarily chose to go with him, so it's their own fault that he killed them.

You sure you want to keep using that argument?

It's not voluntary if you're being lied to and preyed upon for sadistic reasons, especially if you're someone more vulnerable than most. These are desperate people who are unfamiliar with how to navigate the immigration system here. That is being used against them to take advantage of them, and worse, to score cheap political points at their expense.

That's why it's wrong to treat them this way.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
13. Ted Bundy committeed murder.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 10:43 AM
Nov 2022

The question asked was: what can we “do” about Abbott. My answer is: nothing unless you’re aware of a crime being committed.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,346 posts)
23. DeSantis is accused of fraud in a civil suit...
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 12:02 AM
Nov 2022
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.248428/gov.uscourts.mad.248428.1.0.pdf

In or around September 2022, Defendants and their unidentified accomplices designed and executed a premeditated, fraudulent,and illegal scheme centered on exploiting this vulnerability for the sole purpose of advancing their own personal, financial and political interests. This scheme involved the unidentified Doe Defendants, acting in concert with the named Defendants, identifying and targeting class members by trolling streets outside of a migrant shelter in Texasand other similar locales, pretending to be good Samaritans offering humanitarian assistance.

doc03

(35,337 posts)
6. It has to a tremendous burden on the border states to take in
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:46 PM
Nov 2022

thousands of immigrants every year. If we are going to take in all these people, all states should help
take on that responsibility. I don't know the solution but what we are doing is not working.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
11. Every major entry point in this country
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 09:33 AM
Nov 2022

Is taking in "illegal" immigrants. Millions of them have come in on perfectly legal visas, then quietly overstay them--by design, and not a peep about that abuse of the system. Especially if it's a nice white European doing the overstaying.

Funny how people only get mad when it's people from south of the border coming here, and never mind how most of them are doing it after our very actions of meddling in their country's affairs have messed up those places beyond all repair and made it unsafe for them to stay there.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
9. People have to vote them out of office
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 09:25 AM
Nov 2022

And "we" aren't letting them do it . Those that voted for them are letting them because they agree with it.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
12. The problem is the red state governors would rather keep the issue to drive politics
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 09:34 AM
Nov 2022

Rather than have a national discussion on how to handle people seeking asylum.

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
15. If I was one of those immigrants
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 04:49 PM
Nov 2022

my number one priority would be to get out of Texas. Why stay in a state where the minimum wage is $7.25?

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
17. So that makes it right?
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 05:19 PM
Nov 2022

They don't even do the courtesy of giving notice. These people's lives are nothing but political theater to them.

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
19. No it doesn't.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 05:35 PM
Nov 2022

But I think a lot of those people will look back and say it was a good move for them. I hope so, anyway. I am glad to see the people in the states they are arriving in being as helpful as they can be.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
21. Agree it's probably better to be anywhere but TX or FL,
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 07:55 PM
Nov 2022

but it's such a despicable display of political pandering, and with people who are so vulnerable, it just seems that someone should have the authority to shut this shit show down.

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
22. I've lived in Northern California since 1961.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 08:36 PM
Nov 2022

I'm of Northern European descent, but I grew up in a Hispanic neighborhood. My high school was 49% Hispanic. I've been around immigrants much of my life, and these are generally very tough people. Some of these folks walked from Central America to the Texas border. Anyone who wants to be here that bad should get to stay. I hope they get to stay here and I hope they will do well. I think they will.

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