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brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 12:03 AM Nov 2022

F---ing nightmare': Trump team does damage control after he dines with Ye and Nick Fuentes

NBC News

A person familiar with the dinner conversation who is not involved in Trump's presidential campaign and two Trump advisers briefed on the dinner corroborated Trump's claim that he didn't know Fuentes' identity when they dined together. The three sources spoke on condition on anonymity given the nature of the controversy.

But despite Trump suggesting that the event was “uneventful,” the fallout over his dinner with Fuentes appears to have thrown Trump’s campaign into damage control mode. The former president took hours to respond publicly after multiple media outlets reported that Fuentes was present at the dinner.

Even the two Trump advisers winced at how a Holocaust denier like Fuentes was able to wind up with Trump at dinner — even if it was by mistake — along with the rapper, who had just had his Twitter account restored but lost major endorsement deals for making antisemitic remarks.

"This is a f---ing nightmare," said one longtime Trump adviser who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of stoking the former president's ire at "disloyal" people who criticize him. "If people are looking at [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis to run against Trump, here's another reason why."
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F---ing nightmare': Trump team does damage control after he dines with Ye and Nick Fuentes (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2022 OP
im surprised they didnt save this for their book Fullduplexxx Nov 2022 #1
Money seems to trump a spine. nt Hotler Nov 2022 #31
Hey, longtime Trump advisor, your client is a fucking nightmare agingdem Nov 2022 #2
Yeah, I don't believe it, either. nt Cha Nov 2022 #4
Same here. calimary Nov 2022 #15
Yeah, that's where I was going to go with this MissMillie Nov 2022 #17
Uh huh Cha Nov 2022 #3
It was totally, obviously, completely intentional. David__77 Nov 2022 #5
Right Dorian Gray Nov 2022 #22
He didn't know David Duke. He didn't know the Proud Boys. Now, he doesn't bullwinkle428 Nov 2022 #6
don't forget Q-Anon... he denied knowing anything about them too MissMillie Nov 2022 #18
Who Regularly Hires, Promotes, does Business, and Dines With... purr-rat beauty Nov 2022 #7
And who thinks 'didn't know' NJCher Nov 2022 #12
Agreed. no_hypocrisy Nov 2022 #16
not only a terrible "excuse" MissMillie Nov 2022 #19
It's his go-to excuse. GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #25
he was shocked I Cha Nov 2022 #34
Anyone who works for Trump deserves to have nightmares. ShazzieB Nov 2022 #8
Just like he didn't know David Duke when the KKK man endorsed him in 2016 TigressDem Nov 2022 #9
This would be mildly amusing if it weren't for the former's ominous presence. Abolishinist Nov 2022 #10
Here's the video about this guy from Meidas Touch: Rhiannon12866 Nov 2022 #11
Mealy mouthed motherfucking whitewashed mainstream media BULLSHIT AnrothElf Nov 2022 #13
These leaches ("advisers") have been whining it's a F---ing nightmare since 2017 Justice matters. Nov 2022 #14
Fuentes promotes White Christian Nationalism Martin Eden Nov 2022 #20
lol Dorian Gray Nov 2022 #21
Milo's a British citizen, so he probably doesn't celebrate the holiday. GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #23
The "out-extreme" assessment is a correct one. David__77 Nov 2022 #28
If that's true Dorian Gray Nov 2022 #32
And Netanyahu will continue to back Trump. MaryMagdaline Nov 2022 #24
He's been a fucking nightmare his entire life. spanone Nov 2022 #26
Trump's getting away with the worst part due to it going right over the media's head (as usual) gulliver Nov 2022 #27
He absolutely is with them and he won't disavow them. David__77 Nov 2022 #29
Nick Fuentes is 145 lbs soaking wet Dorian Gray Nov 2022 #33
"Trump's campaign" BWdem4life Nov 2022 #30
Zero Trump supporters will care Johnny2X2X Nov 2022 #35
Kick ck4829 Nov 2022 #36
These enablers are even worse than the true cultists, IMHO Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2022 #37

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
2. Hey, longtime Trump advisor, your client is a fucking nightmare
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 12:26 AM
Nov 2022

and a whore to ass-kissing praise...Trump says he didn't know Fuentes, supposedly an uninvited guest, was an antisemite, but not to worry because three virulent Jew-haters shared a meal and not one of those vile cretins spewed a stereotypical trope....now that's what I call gaslighting!!!

MissMillie

(38,557 posts)
17. Yeah, that's where I was going to go with this
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 07:34 AM
Nov 2022

no matter how good you think your recipe is, if the ingredients suck you get a bad dish.

David__77

(23,402 posts)
5. It was totally, obviously, completely intentional.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 12:43 AM
Nov 2022

He is powerfully communicating that he is not a “conservative Republican” - he is an anti-Semitic national-conservative. Like the old German national-conservatives, he is comfortable and at ease dining with a national socialist.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
22. Right
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 08:28 AM
Nov 2022

the people expect us to believe that nobody did a background check on these visitors? Doesn't he have secret service agents there? Handlers?

It's so stupid.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
6. He didn't know David Duke. He didn't know the Proud Boys. Now, he doesn't
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 01:08 AM
Nov 2022

know Fuentes.

I'm starting to sense a pattern here.

MissMillie

(38,557 posts)
18. don't forget Q-Anon... he denied knowing anything about them too
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 07:38 AM
Nov 2022

But he was right about one thing... no matter what he does, INCLUDING a public rejection of knowing these groups, he won't lose their votes. He'll stand in front of a camera and deny them, posts his denials of them on his platform,... (you name it, he'll take whatever press he can get (as usual)) and DENY any association with them or even any knowledge of them and they will STILL support him.

purr-rat beauty

(543 posts)
7. Who Regularly Hires, Promotes, does Business, and Dines With...
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 01:16 AM
Nov 2022

....people they don't know?

I'm waiting for the day trump says he doesn't know himself when his tiny little maggot balls are pinched.

NJCher

(35,670 posts)
12. And who thinks 'didn't know'
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 02:46 AM
Nov 2022

Is an acceptable excuse?

In any other world, it is not.

In academia, for example, if you were unaware of a commentator whose remarks affected your area of expertise and you said you were unaware, no one would believe you.

no_hypocrisy

(46,104 posts)
16. Agreed.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 06:55 AM
Nov 2022

Who truly believes that TFG didn't know exactly who was at HIS table? It's set apart from the other diners with velvet ropes. The "privilege" of dining with The Donald is not serendipity.

MissMillie

(38,557 posts)
19. not only a terrible "excuse"
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 07:41 AM
Nov 2022

but it makes him look even more ridiculous.

There isn't anyone following this that believe TFG isn't aware of his most ardent supporters. He's too much of a narcissist to not be following the folks that bow down before him.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
25. It's his go-to excuse.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 09:38 AM
Nov 2022

He has plead ignorance so frequently that nobody even takes it seriously anymore. Unfortunately, the media take it as a cue to just move on. Granted, it's not like they're ever going to get an honest answer from Trump or his toadies.

Cha

(297,234 posts)
34. he was shocked I
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 10:25 PM
Nov 2022

tell ya. totally shocked he broke bread 🥖 with a nasty NaZi who wants America run by a Dictator

ShazzieB

(16,399 posts)
8. Anyone who works for Trump deserves to have nightmares.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 01:34 AM
Nov 2022

Really, really awful ones, in retaliation for the nightmares they're helping to unleash on the rest of the world. Nightmares that malke them wake up screaming at least half a dozen times every night.





TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
9. Just like he didn't know David Duke when the KKK man endorsed him in 2016
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 01:50 AM
Nov 2022

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke_1988_presidential_campaign
David Duke (KKK Grand Master who failed at Presidential Run in 1988)


https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/28/politics/donald-trump-white-supremacists

Despite what he said Sunday, Trump apparently did know Duke in 2000 – citing him, as well as Pat Buchanan and Lenora Fulani – in a statement that year explaining why he had decided to end his brief flirtation with a Reform Party presidential campaign.

“The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani. This is not company I wish to keep,” Trump said in a statement reported then by The New York Times.

He had also indicated he knew of Duke during a Friday press conference, when he was asked similar questions and said: “David Duke endorsed me? OK, all right. I disavow, OK?”

Abolishinist

(1,296 posts)
10. This would be mildly amusing if it weren't for the former's ominous presence.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 02:16 AM
Nov 2022

Ye said in his video debrief that Trump was angry.

“When Trump started basically screaming at me at the table telling me I was going to lose, I mean, has that ever worked for anyone in history?” the rapper said. “I’m like hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Trump. You’re talkin’ to Ye.”

Rhiannon12866

(205,360 posts)
11. Here's the video about this guy from Meidas Touch:
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 02:26 AM
Nov 2022

Just posting a warning, I watch the whole exposé of this sick piece of work and now I don't feel so well...

Trump hosts Holocaust denier at Mar-A-Lago for Dinner on Thanksgiving Week - Meidas Touch
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017786027

AnrothElf

(568 posts)
13. Mealy mouthed motherfucking whitewashed mainstream media BULLSHIT
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 03:02 AM
Nov 2022

Fuck you NBC. This is war then. The corporations are taking the Republican side? Then we BURY YOU

Justice matters.

(6,929 posts)
14. These leaches ("advisers") have been whining it's a F---ing nightmare since 2017
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 03:04 AM
Nov 2022

almost every single day. Do they know what being F---ing masochists means?

Martin Eden

(12,867 posts)
20. Fuentes promotes White Christian Nationalism
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 08:03 AM
Nov 2022

Doesn't that make him a mainstream Republican these days?

He's just more out in the open with his antisemitism, which kinda makes him more honest.

Still a vile POS, but doesn't try to hide it.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
21. lol
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 08:26 AM
Nov 2022

the chaos is insane.

I think BOTH Ye AND Trump got played by Milo and Nick.

Chaos agents gonna chaos.

What's sad: Did this dinner happen on Thanksgiving? Don't any of these people have families that want to spend a holiday with them?

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
23. Milo's a British citizen, so he probably doesn't celebrate the holiday.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 09:31 AM
Nov 2022

I'm sure his attendance was purely opportunism. I'm betting Fuentes' family probably doesn't want him around.

Noel Casler, who worked with Trump on "The Apprentice," said on Twitter the Nazi podcast boys were invited because Trump is trying to "out extreme" Ron DeKKKlantis. I think this probably the most accurate explanation. DeSantis is stealing attention away from him, and he HATES that (and he also apparently hates DeSantis, himself.) He wants to keep those two dregs of humanity in his court. What better time to invite them to a dinner than one that will draw more attention from the media?

David__77

(23,402 posts)
28. The "out-extreme" assessment is a correct one.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 01:09 PM
Nov 2022

DeSantis certainly cannot compete when it comes to that. The fascists anti-Semites and white supremacists know in their bones that Trump is “their guy” while they know DeSantis is not.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
32. If that's true
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 10:08 PM
Nov 2022

he played himself.

I don't know that anything will actually destroy trump of his base's adoration. But he will never attract anybody else with this nonsense.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
27. Trump's getting away with the worst part due to it going right over the media's head (as usual)
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 10:36 AM
Nov 2022

Trump just said he didn't know who Fuentes was. And the media is in mere guilt-by-association trope mode, so they don't notice the true headline. "Trump doesn't disavow white nationalist leader after dining with him"

In all this mess, no one seems to notice that Trump didn't say, "I didn't know who Fuentes was, and if I did, I wouldn't have had dinner with him." That leaves Fuentes's followers thinking Trump is into them. And he probably is. He needs his little brown shirted broken unit corps to stand down and stand by.

David__77

(23,402 posts)
29. He absolutely is with them and he won't disavow them.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 01:12 PM
Nov 2022

And that is exemplary of why he is overwhelming favorite to win nomination.

He can be stopped, yes- the cost would be quite high, including potentially the destruction of the Republican Party.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
35. Zero Trump supporters will care
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 11:17 PM
Nov 2022

He could praise anyone he wants at his club. Skies t matter to them.

This is so sick, but the country doesn’t care. Only thing it might matter is the GOP is looking for a reason to dump him and they might add this to the pile of reasons.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
37. These enablers are even worse than the true cultists, IMHO
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 10:28 AM
Nov 2022

Theres always been extremist fringe presidential candidates with bizarre and/or extreme views. The enablers were, and are again the true problem.

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