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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 09:45 AM Nov 2022

Why in hell is the media still making excuses for Trump? Why do so many give him

"the benefit of the doubt" when he so obviously does not deserve it?

Why did Pence's characterization of Trump's "Big Lie" and his instigation of J6 as simply listening to inept attorneys not IMMEDIATELY result in his being dragged by everyone with a microphone?

Why do the cable personalities repeatedly give air time to Trump's ridiculous insistence that he "did not know" who Mr. Fuentes was? Is that not ANOTHER transparent lie?

Why is the "Fuentes was Kanye's guest; not mine!" excuse not being openly and repeatedly being ridiculed?

Yes, I know---SOME journalists are trying to be accurate and responsible, but far too many still feel compelled to be "fair and balanced" and "tell both sides" when one of those sides is transparent mendacity.

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Why in hell is the media still making excuses for Trump? Why do so many give him (Original Post) Atticus Nov 2022 OP
Because he makes them money. And, because he has not been indicted for anything despite Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #1
Yep! Bingo! dutch777 Nov 2022 #11
Because most of corporate media is owned and run by GQPs. Lovie777 Nov 2022 #2
Bingo gab13by13 Nov 2022 #5
Why do people waste time with the media if they hate it so much.? Kaleva Nov 2022 #3
Seriously? nt Atticus Nov 2022 #4
I am selective, gab13by13 Nov 2022 #6
Do you consider the time you spend there constructive and worth the time? Kaleva Nov 2022 #20
Why go to a cancer doctor if I can get all my medical advice at DU? emulatorloo Nov 2022 #8
He isn't going to a competent cancer doctor Kaleva Nov 2022 #19
Guess the analogy went over your head. emulatorloo Nov 2022 #22
LBN has strict standards about what can be posted Kaleva Nov 2022 #23
My only response to your several posts in this thread: Atticus Nov 2022 #24
Based on what you say, I think you may be wasting your time watching MSM Kaleva Nov 2022 #25
Then you should have said that in the first place. emulatorloo Nov 2022 #26
Sorry. I just assumed people knew that DU has LBN for news Kaleva Nov 2022 #27
Don't worry Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #31
And where does the vast majority of that news come from? Doc Sportello Nov 2022 #15
And here we can be selective Kaleva Nov 2022 #18
It's still THE MEDIA which is the point Doc Sportello Nov 2022 #28
Trump is the goose that laid the golden egg, as far as ratings go. Meadowoak Nov 2022 #7
More of traitor on the news than before Marthe48 Nov 2022 #9
The higher ups still want to be "fair and balanced," even though Trump is an obvious danger emulatorloo Nov 2022 #10
When Zucker ran CNN he said they made a Billion dollars off Trump. sarcasmo Nov 2022 #12
my question is , when is he going to be in handcuffs ? AllaN01Bear Nov 2022 #13
i agree. hes been out of office for five years and the m$n still fawn over him. AllaN01Bear Nov 2022 #14
Just under 2 years actually, but the point still remains (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #17
Fox would still exist, with or without an FCC Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #30
I have no idea. Phoenix61 Nov 2022 #16
DU is fascinated with all things tfg Kaleva Nov 2022 #21
Because the media is awful Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #29
Money joemacdawson Nov 2022 #32

Scrivener7

(50,881 posts)
1. Because he makes them money. And, because he has not been indicted for anything despite
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 09:47 AM
Nov 2022

the numerous investigations, they can say that is evidence he has done nothing wrong and they are just being balanced in their coverage.

Kaleva

(36,218 posts)
3. Why do people waste time with the media if they hate it so much.?
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 09:53 AM
Nov 2022

I dare say one can be very well informed by just getting their news from DU.

gab13by13

(21,184 posts)
6. I am selective,
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 10:05 AM
Nov 2022

I don't waste my time being aggravated by the right wing MSM.

I only watch Nicolle Wallace on TV, and listen to Zerlina Maxwell, Stephanie Miller, and Thom Hartmann.



emulatorloo

(44,033 posts)
8. Why go to a cancer doctor if I can get all my medical advice at DU?
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 10:12 AM
Nov 2022

OP doesn’t hate the media, and I seriously doubt they hate the trained competent reporters who bust their asses fact checking and interviewing and researching.

Their quarrel is with editorial stances from the higher ups afaik.

emulatorloo

(44,033 posts)
22. Guess the analogy went over your head.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 01:13 PM
Nov 2022

Lots of folks on DU posting wild ‘theories’ and fact free speculation. Which is fine, because it is a discussion site, not a news organization.

It is not a not a vetted news source.

If you choose to get your ‘news’ from DU or Facebook or TikTok, that’s certainly your choice. Just like you can choose to go to a quack doctor or a unqualified blogger when you get sick.

Kaleva

(36,218 posts)
23. LBN has strict standards about what can be posted
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 01:31 PM
Nov 2022

You might benefit from reading the LBN SOP. When I was talking about getting my news from DU, I meant LBN and not GD, the Lounge, Weird News or Pets.

GD is general discussion about the news and other things.

Kaleva

(36,218 posts)
25. Based on what you say, I think you may be wasting your time watching MSM
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 01:46 PM
Nov 2022

And it'd be more productive for you to get your news from LBN like several of us already do. That's just my opinion

Kaleva

(36,218 posts)
27. Sorry. I just assumed people knew that DU has LBN for news
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 02:02 PM
Nov 2022

GD is for general discussion of the news and many other subjects, Weird News covers the exploits of Florida Man and Creative Speculation is for discussion of the Kennedy assassination, aliens, and conspiracy theories .

Kaleva

(36,218 posts)
18. And here we can be selective
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 12:50 PM
Nov 2022

One is not sitting watching talking heads babbling about stuff in a way that pisses the viewer off. Here, one can go right to what's important.

Doc Sportello

(7,480 posts)
28. It's still THE MEDIA which is the point
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 05:57 PM
Nov 2022

As much as you try to deflect with the BS "selective" claim, the media that you are painting with a broad brush - along with the people who use it - is where the info is coming from. You can claim "being selective" as much as you want, but you certainly aren't slective when you slur the people who create content and post it here. That 'important stuff" you go to, comes from THE MEDIA. Your constant bashing of media as some kind of monolith here without any supportive evidence has zero credibility.

If you would learn about the history of this country, the media was considered an important part of our democracy by the Founding Fathers. That now includes bradcast media, some of which is awful, but a lot of which has been essential in combatting the fascists who are trying to overturn democracy. I could post many, many examples but you would ignore them as much as you ignore the good work being done by many in the media with your blanket attacks and unsupported claims.

Marthe48

(16,838 posts)
9. More of traitor on the news than before
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 10:12 AM
Nov 2022

If any of the segments I listen to start airing clips of traitor, or his past or current henchmen, I turn it off.

I want to see news that indicates what elected Dems in Congress are planning, or how the states with seditious officials trying to overthrow their elections are going to deal with the rebels. I'll watch long lines of people in Georgia waiting to vote. Or Mauna Loa erupt, although I'm wondering if someone tossed a few r's in and stirred it up.

The only clips I want to see of traitor or his gang are when they get handed into the back seat of a cop car.

emulatorloo

(44,033 posts)
10. The higher ups still want to be "fair and balanced," even though Trump is an obvious danger
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 10:19 AM
Nov 2022

Reporters still turning in solid work and have exposed Trump. But higher ups are still scared of being called the ‘liberal media.’

JMHO of course.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
12. When Zucker ran CNN he said they made a Billion dollars off Trump.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 10:23 AM
Nov 2022

Last edited Wed Nov 30, 2022, 01:55 AM - Edit history (1)

Money is always the reason for the M$M.

AllaN01Bear

(17,840 posts)
14. i agree. hes been out of office for five years and the m$n still fawn over him.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 10:33 AM
Nov 2022

fair and ballanced . gone when the fairness doctrine was remvoed. now we got fox and fox 2.0 so , hem.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
30. Fox would still exist, with or without an FCC
Wed Nov 30, 2022, 02:02 AM
Nov 2022

The Fairness Doctrine only applied to regular broadcast stations--the stations that you can pick up with a simple antenna.

Fox is cable. It can spew lies and hate all day, and little can stop them from doing it. Save for cutting cable. That's the only way you can hurt them. That both kills their advertisers' access to your eyeballs, and their cut of your cable bill.

Every time you pay for cable, you pay for Fox to be on the air.

Phoenix61

(16,985 posts)
16. I have no idea.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 11:03 AM
Nov 2022

They question Biden’s ability to lead based solely in his age. The Orange Anus spews lie after lie and … crickets.

Kaleva

(36,218 posts)
21. DU is fascinated with all things tfg
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 01:08 PM
Nov 2022

This is a discussion board and some do like to talk about him. Others who aren't can just skip over the threads.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
29. Because the media is awful
Wed Nov 30, 2022, 01:57 AM
Nov 2022

They've been lapdogs for corporate/big money interests for a very long time now.

And never forget the cable news talking heads make $$$$$. Supporting the r thugs, or excusing their fascist behavior, is in their personal best interests.

joemacdawson

(61 posts)
32. Money
Wed Nov 30, 2022, 02:12 AM
Nov 2022

Trump is a ratings machine. With privatized media, ratings and money are more important than truth and democracy. It’s their raison d’etre.

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