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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsToday's entrant into the "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" club: Kari Lake!
Link to tweet
OWNED!!!!
magicarpet
(15,771 posts).... for using the courts to advance their Fascist agendas.
Without suffering any repercussions - these Fucking Fascists will continue their Fucking Fascist ways and gleefully exploiting any loopholes they can find ad nauseam.
yankee87
(2,289 posts)Like was done with the KKK, take their money and assets.
That is a completely reasonable strategy, considering the # of crimes they commit.
calimary
(83,421 posts)million.
Cha
(302,584 posts)this is GOING!
TY!
calimary
(83,421 posts)Cha
(302,584 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,533 posts)calimary
(83,421 posts)I like the line above whats highlighted - about this sending a message to anyone who tries to pull a stupid, ill-advised stunt like that woman just did.
SHAME on her.
Marthe48
(18,349 posts)n/t
ProudMNDemocrat
(18,406 posts)Running out of steam, running out of water.
Archae
(46,657 posts)ancianita
(37,649 posts)Headline:
Judge Sanctions Kari Lakes Legal Team, Which Includes Alan Dershowitz, for Recklessly Filing False, Misleading, and Unsupported Claims in Election Lawsuit
Parker, Olsen, and Dershowitz signed the original complaint, an amended complaint, and a opposition to a request for sanctions.
Those attorneys are presumably the ones sanctioned on Thursday for filing a complaint by Lake and Arizona State Representative Mark Finchem (R-11), another plaintiff.
The same legal team represented both plaintiffs, the docket indicates.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/judge-sanctions-kari-lakes-legal-team-which-includes-alan-dershowitz-for-recklessly-filing-false-misleading-and-unsupported-claims-in-election-lawsuit/ar-AA14NX7A
Aussie105
(5,963 posts)Nah, not going to go anywhere. Not bothering. Going to make us look bad.
(Unless they see dollar bills for them.)
OR
You are joking, right girl?
ancianita
(37,649 posts)Did the word "presumably" trip you up? Cuz I don't get what you mean by joking.
reACTIONary
(5,900 posts)... that lawyers have the right to refuse to take some action on behalf of a client, as in "You want me to do what? You have got to be joking! No, we are not going to do that."
Actually, as officers of the court, they have the responsibility to refuse to take some actions.
certainot
(9,090 posts)law team the 'A-team' lost to and whose fees she had to pay was a lawyer or two straight out of college no one ever heard of
after all, it's unlikely she'll pay out of her wallet
Nevilledog
(52,612 posts)ProfessorGAC
(68,324 posts)Lindell is either broke or it's somebody else footing the bill.
He was never all that rich.
Nevilledog
(52,612 posts)ProfessorGAC
(68,324 posts)I did a deep dive into this a year & a half back.
He was never worth even half of that. At no time.
And, as he's mothballed assets when volume plummeted, the value of the company fell.
The company had a peak value of $150 million, with a D/E of barely under 5. Hence, assets were $26 million.
He owns 70%, so around $18.2 million. But, there's a personally backed loan of around $3 million. So, now something over $15 million.
But, it didn't hit those values until 2019. And, cash flow spiked in 2016. Before that the company was marginally profitable.
Sales volume peaked at $152 million with operating margins of 24%. (It's not an efficient operation. ) So, There was $37 million before SG&A, debt service, capital reinvestment & taxes.
Given that the company only existed since 2009, there wasn't time for him to accumulate $60 million.
This is a combination of public information & financial information not readily available but to which I have limited access. (I can only access 30,000 foot info, not ledger entries or anything that detailed.)
This is the same guy who edited his own Wikipedia page to add a net worth, after doubling it & adding a zero.
Nothing about him is real.
Nevilledog
(52,612 posts)Lord knows there are enough RW dark money groups throwing money around everywhere.
certainot
(9,090 posts)like that out front defending him, until he's like whatever accountant trump decides to dump.
ProfessorGAC
(68,324 posts)Because this windmill tilting has already cost more than he ever had.
I'd like some investigative journalists to be journalists and figure out who is really funding this attack on election integrity.
allegorical oracle
(2,775 posts)NBachers
(17,788 posts)IronLionZion
(46,638 posts)LudwigPastorius
(10,267 posts)Paying for grandstanding bullshit.
NJCher
(37,165 posts)I mean, WTH, the real world isnt enough? They have to make up silly plot lines like this?
Or are they really so pathetic that they believe they cant lose?
lees1975
(5,101 posts)Love the terms, "false narrative", "baselessly undermine", disinformation about...democratic process," "to send a message".
Initech
(101,089 posts)peppertree
(22,573 posts)Which Kari Fake earned - like nothing she's ever earned in her miserable life.
calimary
(83,421 posts)Kinda has a nice ring to it.
peppertree
(22,573 posts)Although my favorite is Toxic Lake.
Between you and me, she looks like someone willing to engage in Satanic rites to get her way. Opportunist written all over her.
Caliman73
(11,767 posts)I file a stupid, baseless lawsuit with no evidence whatsoever and a judge throws it out. That shows you the whole system is in on it. Now I just have to get my brain dead followers to forgo their rent and Christmas presents so they can send me more money.
ZonkerHarris
(25,019 posts)jaxexpat
(7,403 posts)for filing frivolous lawsuits. Is that still a thing or will itrequire redefining of the word "frivolous"?
TomSlick
(11,582 posts)All that is required is for judges to be willing to enforce Rule 11.
jaxexpat
(7,403 posts)TomSlick
(11,582 posts)Kennah
(14,451 posts)republianmushroom
(16,408 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(151,757 posts)This makes me smile. After the abuse of the court system by TFG and election deniers, courts are quicker to assess legal fees and to consider sanctions for attorneys stupid enough to take these cases.
Link to tweet
https://ktar.com/story/5372179/lake-finchem-attorneys-ordered-to-pay-maricopa-countys-legal-fees/
Judge John Tuchi said the lawyers for Lake and Finchem are to pay fees in the April suit, which asked a federal court to bar the use of tabulation equipment in the recent midterm elections.
Tuchi also admonished Lake and Finchem but decided that their actions didnt rise to the level of warranting sanctions.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)I can't pull up even linked tweets at work. But I read about the Kourt Kickass to the Lake-tush and greatly enjoyed reading about at least one of these jokers flaunting the law, believing they've got it all corrupted to their ends.
But I didn't know of Pillow dude's involment and three cheers for two crafty birds down with one stone.
It's past time all this damn confabulating their own reality got the smackdown.
lees1975
(5,101 posts)all she's ever done is be television news anchor for a third rate fox affiliate in Phoenix.
But she's still playing this role of being a "provocateur," or basically, a screaming banshee.
She's done. If she wants to get into politics, she needs to run in a fascist state like South Carolina or Florida or Texas. A nobody who has done nothing seems to do well there.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,971 posts)having to pay. Every R (party of personal responsibility 😂 thinks consequences are only for their perceived enemies.
Marcuse
(7,855 posts)If she has the courage of her convictions that is.
onenote
(43,861 posts)Her lawyers, not her, are the ones being sanctioned.
onenote
(43,861 posts)From the court's order:
"Here, while there are reasons to believe that Plaintiffs themselves contributed to the violations of Rule 11(b)(3) in this caseincluding that they themselves apparently have voted on paper ballots, contradicting allegations and representations in their pleadings about Arizonas use of paper ballotsthere is not a sufficient record that compels the Court to exercise its discretion to sanction Plaintiffs under that part of the rule. Thus, although the Court does not find that Plaintiffs have acted appropriately in this matterfar from it the Court concludes that sanctions are warranted only against Plaintiffs counsel, who signed and filed the offending papers. To sanction Plaintiffs counsel here is not to let Plaintiffs off the hook. It is to penalize specific attorney conduct with the broader goal of deterring similarly baseless filings initiated by anyone, whether an attorney or not."