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JudyM

(29,251 posts)
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 01:56 AM Dec 2022

Major case weighing survival of democratic elections is before SC today.


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The deranged Supreme Court case that threatens US democracy, explained
… Moore is also potentially the biggest threat to free and fair elections in the United States to reach the Supreme Court in my lifetime — and I was alive for Bush v. Gore. Four justices have endorsed the utterly nonsensical legal theory underlying Moore, which means that, unless one of those four has second thoughts, the future of US elections will be decided by Trump-appointed Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

The case involves the awkwardly named “independent state legislature doctrine” (ISLD), a theory that the Supreme Court rejected many times over the course of more than a century. It’s also a theory repudiated by many of the very same sources that the ISLD proponents rely upon in their briefs to the justices.

Under the strongest form of this doctrine, members of each state’s legislative branch have unchecked authority to decide how elections for Congress and the presidency will be conducted in their state — indeed, a state legislature could potentially pass a law canceling the presidential election in that state and awarding its electoral votes to Donald Trump. Any state constitutional provisions that protect the right to vote, that limit gerrymandering, or that otherwise constrain lawmakers’ ability to skew elections would cease to function. State governors would lose their ability to veto laws impacting federal elections. And state courts would lose their authority to strike down these laws.

As Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in a 2020 concurring opinion endorsing the ISLD, “the Constitution provides that state legislatures — not federal judges, not state judges, not state governors, not other state officials — bear primary responsibility for setting election rules.” Notably, this opinion was joined by Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who currently sits at the conservative Supreme Court’s ideological center.…
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/12/4/23481063/supreme-court-moore-harper-independent-state-legislature-doctrine-elections

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Major case weighing survival of democratic elections is before SC today. (Original Post) JudyM Dec 2022 OP
K&R UTUSN Dec 2022 #1
If they are stupid enough to allow that, then the country is gone JohnSJ Dec 2022 #2
Stupid, but strategic for them. JudyM Dec 2022 #3
Funny how that works, isn't it, with ethics & laws. SheltieLover Dec 2022 #6
It's one of their theme songs. JudyM Dec 2022 #7
Absolutely! SheltieLover Dec 2022 #8
Article I, Section 5 ... Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #4
Just a thought....nothing would prevent democratically held states from doing the same PortTack Dec 2022 #5

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
3. Stupid, but strategic for them.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:25 AM
Dec 2022

If only judicial ethics applied to them… Sen. Whitehouse and the Senate Judiciary Committee are our best hope, and they’re on it…

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,356 posts)
4. Article I, Section 5 ...
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:59 AM
Dec 2022
Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide.


The House and Senate can simply overrule those legislatures.

PortTack

(32,778 posts)
5. Just a thought....nothing would prevent democratically held states from doing the same
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 04:01 AM
Dec 2022

The gqp would never again win another congressional seat, a senate seat or electoral votes for the president from CA, NY, NJ, IL, MI and many of the others. Not sure how that’s going to work out for them…seriously.

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