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I wonder if this is the Cruz daughter that tried to hurt herself? (Original Post) Laffy Kat Dec 2022 OP
horrible Skittles Dec 2022 #1
In my mind it's more than a cranky child. Laffy Kat Dec 2022 #4
it's a terrible thing to accuse somone of without more proof than this clip Skittles Dec 2022 #5
I'm not accusing him of anything, Skittles. Laffy Kat Dec 2022 #6
what I see is an asshole politiican using his kid for a photo op Skittles Dec 2022 #8
It's the same issue either way: consent NullTuples Dec 2022 #10
And this internalized lack of agency is likely why so many rapes go unreported. SheltieLover Dec 2022 #20
At the very least he's using her for the cameras, which isn't good. pnwmom Dec 2022 #18
sounds like a pregnant child to me..... samnsara Dec 2022 #31
Thank you Bucky Dec 2022 #15
I think cilla4progress Dec 2022 #2
OH NO!!! elleng Dec 2022 #3
Yikes! ecstatic Dec 2022 #7
God and she has him as a father if family therapy has to take place. applegrove Dec 2022 #9
Could we not? Sympthsical Dec 2022 #11
I agree. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #13
Shocked face Sympthsical Dec 2022 #14
I hear you. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #22
I have got to wonder if they will be attentive to her needs LeftInTX Dec 2022 #24
I don't think Sympthsical Dec 2022 #25
Thank you Zeitghost Dec 2022 #40
I think that's the 11 year old. It was the 14 year old who attempted suicide. Kennah Dec 2022 #12
How horrible Bucky Dec 2022 #16
oh dear, I remember Teresa Skittles Dec 2022 #19
Wow--I just finished that article. McGovern was my first vote, but I never knew about Teresa. panader0 Dec 2022 #33
I remember reading that article years ago Skittles Dec 2022 #34
that clip is almost 7 years old, it is from Feb 1, 2016 Celerity Dec 2022 #23
That makes no sense if that's his daughter. honest.abe Dec 2022 #27
well that is the date of the clip (well, technically the video is from January 31, 2016) Celerity Dec 2022 #28
I dont know. That girl looks older than 7 but maybe she is. honest.abe Dec 2022 #36
Saw an article where a neighbor confirmed it is Cruz's daughter rpannier Dec 2022 #17
let it go. ZonkerHarris Dec 2022 #21
Some of the MAGA children just don't turn out "well": no_hypocrisy Dec 2022 #26
There is quite a difference AkFemDem Dec 2022 #30
Having a child who AkFemDem Dec 2022 #29
Exactly this. AngryOldDem Dec 2022 #37
Jesus Christ, this fuckin place WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #32
Of course, certain people are "offended" by this BradAllison Dec 2022 #35
Imagine if this started up about Raskin's child Sympthsical Dec 2022 #38
I don't see anyone "offended" by this. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #39
ewwwe. what a sleaze for a father msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #41

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
1. horrible
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:21 AM
Dec 2022

I hope she will be OK

As much as I sympathize with anyone having to live with Ted Fucking Cruz, I wouldn't read too much into a brief clip of a cranky child...

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
4. In my mind it's more than a cranky child.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:34 AM
Dec 2022

It's a little girl who is pushing away a father who is kissing her against her will. I can so relate to that situation. I think it's why that clip has stayed with me. Kids are so powerless.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
5. it's a terrible thing to accuse somone of without more proof than this clip
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:42 AM
Dec 2022

and believe me, I despise Ted Cruz

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
6. I'm not accusing him of anything, Skittles.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:53 AM
Dec 2022

I'm pointing out that her father has pulled her up to him against her protests. That used to happen to me with male relatives--father included--and not only did I hate it, I had to feel guilty about hating it. Kids, especially little girls, have no personal agency.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
10. It's the same issue either way: consent
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 04:01 AM
Dec 2022

Yes, parents do a lot of things their kids don't consent to - often with good reason, especially when they're younger.
But once they are older and especially when they react that way, forced public physical displays of "affection" against their will raise red flags. So did his expression. I'm not accusing him of anything, I'm just saying that interaction creeped me out and raised my hackles.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. At the very least he's using her for the cameras, which isn't good.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 04:46 AM
Dec 2022

She's probably been a part of his act countless times.

samnsara

(17,623 posts)
31. sounds like a pregnant child to me.....
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:32 AM
Dec 2022

..when one of my dtrs 14 yr old friends became pregnant and threatened suicide i drove her to the clinic myself....this was in the late 80s when abortion was safe legal and humane...

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
7. Yikes!
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:54 AM
Dec 2022

omg! OK I laughed, so yikes at my reaction too. I hope she's OK. I battled with depression as a kid too. My parents were no help whatsoever, but I found my way out through little victories here and there.

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
9. God and she has him as a father if family therapy has to take place.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 03:19 AM
Dec 2022

Vibes to her. I hope her pain is healed asap.

Sympthsical

(9,076 posts)
11. Could we not?
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 04:07 AM
Dec 2022

Seriously. This is ugly and gross.

Suicide affects all kinds of families with all kinds of children. The parents could be the greatest parents in the universe and still have a child who dies of suicide. We never know what someone is dealing with, what their mental health may be like, what contributing factors are, etc. etc.

I've had two close family members die of suicide and plenty more in my social circles within the LGBT community.

Can people - just once - not be gross about such a serious issue that we're now going to start busting out media of a child to start speculating and passing judgements?

Just. Fucking. Once.

Delete this shit. If there's any decency at all.

Sympthsical

(9,076 posts)
14. Shocked face
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 04:20 AM
Dec 2022

Who'd have thought?

Coincidentally, I'm about to take a final on women's mental health in a few (yes, at this hour).

Seeing the grossness is at least some nice personal motivation to do well with the topic since it's clear there are portions of humanity who will not make it easy for women - particularly adolescent girls - to have a moment's peace if they can help it.

We have shit to fling! And isn't what this is all about?

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
22. I hear you.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 05:10 AM
Dec 2022

There shouldn't be any threads about this poor child, but oh yes, there are.

Sad to see, but not surprised.

Sympthsical

(9,076 posts)
25. I don't think
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 05:32 AM
Dec 2022

That wrapping up the crappiness that is poring over a political opponent's child's mental health issues with a cellophane mantle of signaled concern is as effective a look as it seems at first blush.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
16. How horrible
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 04:24 AM
Dec 2022

Mental illness is everywhere and needs to be treated with compassion and love only.

I still remember when I read the news about George McGovern's daughter slow self destruction. The stresses of political life take a horrendous toll on the family life of politicians, regardless of party.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
34. I remember reading that article years ago
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:45 AM
Dec 2022

really struck a chord with me because of alcoholism and mental illness in my family

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
27. That makes no sense if that's his daughter.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 07:53 AM
Dec 2022

She would be 7 years old in that vid if your date is correct. Clearly that girl is more than 7.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
36. I dont know. That girl looks older than 7 but maybe she is.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:49 AM
Dec 2022

I thought she was walking but looking closer it appears someone is carrying her.

AkFemDem

(1,826 posts)
30. There is quite a difference
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:25 AM
Dec 2022

Between growing up to be a horrible person with bad values and a sense of entitlement (eg the older Trump
Kids) and being non neuro-typical or having mental illness.

AkFemDem

(1,826 posts)
29. Having a child who
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:22 AM
Dec 2022

Is touch averse and on the spectrum, this looks all too familiar. Parents who have children with touch aversion should know better than to foist touch on them- ESPECIALLY in a sensory loaded environment like being surrounded by crowds and cameras.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
37. Exactly this.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:51 AM
Dec 2022

My son is on the spectrum and this is exactly how he acted as a child. He’s gotten better as he’s gotten older, but he will never be demonstrative emotionally. But he has a big and kind heart, which is all that matters anyway. My daughter is also on the spectrum, and her issue is not picking up on emotional cues of others. She’s not demonstrative, either.

The child’s finger gestures in that clip make it clear to me that she has some form of autism or PPD, and Cruz didn’t pick up on it. I’m not conflating this with his daughter, and I don’t see the point, from my perspective, of the OP.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
35. Of course, certain people are "offended" by this
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:47 AM
Dec 2022

They are so obvious.

Yesterday was a really, really bad day for them.....

Sympthsical

(9,076 posts)
38. Imagine if this started up about Raskin's child
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:17 AM
Dec 2022

You'd be pissed at how awful people were being in that case.

Empathy isn't a conditional thing. If it is, it isn't empathy - it's opportunism.

Not everyone is completely broken by politics that that is all there is in this world.

And, for the record. I predicted Warnock by four yesterday, so it was a good day for me. Bonus: I never have to hear about Walker again. Not everyone sees this life purely through the political lens.

Occasionally we see other human beings and attempt to treat them as such.

Tribalism does quite the opposite.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
39. I don't see anyone "offended" by this.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:40 AM
Dec 2022

I see decent people who think no one should gloat over a child’s distress.

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