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I just heard that this is the first time since FDR that (Original Post) malaise Dec 2022 OP
Lawrence O'Donnell mentioned it last night during the election returns coverage BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #1
Thanks malaise Dec 2022 #2
I shoulda been in bed BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #12
I have one sister and her hubby in Georgia malaise Dec 2022 #13
I know they are relieved BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #14
Please tell your cousin in Duluth, TNNurse Dec 2022 #28
I most certainly will! BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #29
Long ago if someone lived in Duluth, TNNurse Dec 2022 #30
There are many many northern transplants down there BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #32
I also went to college in Atlanta. Wonderful area but the red areas surrounding it are frightening. MLAA Dec 2022 #36
My paternal great-grand parents graduated from Atlanta U BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #37
Wow! Both great grands graduating from college in the 1880s is amazing. What an accomplishment MLAA Dec 2022 #39
Yeah back then BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #40
Do you know what they graduated in and how they then earned a living? MLAA Dec 2022 #43
They were teachers and my great-grandfather became a principal BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #45
My paternal grandparents were share croppers in North Florida. After many years they finally MLAA Dec 2022 #46
Excellent story BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #47
How disappointing to get out of the south by being accepted into Penn Med School only MLAA Dec 2022 #48
Well they were not from the south BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #49
So did I! True Blue American Dec 2022 #19
I knew Warnock was not going to lose this malaise Dec 2022 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Dec 2022 #21
You win! True Blue American Dec 2022 #22
Joe is pushing the right buttons! /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #3
Yep malaise Dec 2022 #4
but is it really Joe Skittles Dec 2022 #6
It's Joe! True Blue American Dec 2022 #23
It's partly both. GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #33
Told you Biden True Blue American Dec 2022 #5
Did I hear it right? True Blue American Dec 2022 #7
Yep malaise Dec 2022 #8
I thought so! Thanks! True Blue American Dec 2022 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Dec 2022 #9
Yeah! And it was a truly great moment! calimary Dec 2022 #15
:) True Blue American Dec 2022 #18
not only that, Dems flipped a red senate seat - PA onetexan Dec 2022 #10
Yep malaise Dec 2022 #11
Tim Ryan could have won Ohio. True Blue American Dec 2022 #25
it's tough i know, but i hope Ryan w try again. He's a great candidate. Fetterman had much better onetexan Dec 2022 #31
Please understand that Tim Ryan made a calculated choice on how he was going to run. Ninga Dec 2022 #38
Not really. True Blue American Dec 2022 #41
The Time article I posted gives perspective to how Ryan ran. Voters were not enthusiastic, the Ninga Dec 2022 #44
That is exactly what I told the Ohio DNC! True Blue American Dec 2022 #50
They (MSNBC) said that Johnson blew it somehow. BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #17
I wonder when they will acknowledge (the press) how successful President Biden Peacetrain Dec 2022 #24
Never! True Blue American Dec 2022 #26
THIS n/t malaise Dec 2022 #27
Sigh. We need an FDR. orthoclad Dec 2022 #34
I consider Biden better than FDR. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #42
No, I remember FDR! True Blue American Dec 2022 #51
Let's keep doing that! RainCaster Dec 2022 #35
Lawrence overlooked on other President. summer_in_TX Dec 2022 #52

BumRushDaShow

(129,122 posts)
1. Lawrence O'Donnell mentioned it last night during the election returns coverage
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 07:02 AM
Dec 2022

First time since the 1934 midterms for FDR (the first midterm election in his first term).

BumRushDaShow

(129,122 posts)
12. I shoulda been in bed
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 07:26 AM
Dec 2022

but I had to see Sen. Warnock through to his victory speech!

His little ones were adorable -



I have an aunt and cousins in GA and was texting back and forth with one of my cousins last night as the results were coming in (she is in Duluth and was worried but I assured her that Warnock got this).

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
28. Please tell your cousin in Duluth,
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:44 AM
Dec 2022

that this girl from Norcross whose family came from Duluth, that I thank then for their votes. Some of my family in GA voted for Warnock, but not sure all did. I just cannot ask.

BumRushDaShow

(129,122 posts)
29. I most certainly will!
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:51 AM
Dec 2022

She was born on Long Island, NY and raised in NH but went to college in Atlanta (and had had enough of crazy NH and its winters).

Her mom (my mother's younger sister who just turned 87) is there with her.

She had worked the early voting polls during the 2020 election (couldn't do it this year though).

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
30. Long ago if someone lived in Duluth,
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:01 AM
Dec 2022

I knew them or their family...both parents were from there. Damn, I am old. Gwinnett County grew too much and too fast.

BumRushDaShow

(129,122 posts)
32. There are many many northern transplants down there
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:13 AM
Dec 2022

I have other cousins from my mother's maternal side who were born and raised in the Philly 'burbs and moved down to "Hotlanta" because of the lower cost of living, inexpensive housing, milder climate, and bubbling community. Meanwhile my mother refused to go below the Mason-Dixon line although we did take her down there for one cousin's wedding about 20-some years ago. And since she was a big Ted Turner fan for years, she got to tour the CNN studio building, plus we visited Ebenezer Baptist Church and the MLK Center.

I also had a former co-worker who had moved down there years ago with her son for the same reasons and recently moved back up here to Philly a few years ago after her grands were done high school.

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
36. I also went to college in Atlanta. Wonderful area but the red areas surrounding it are frightening.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:56 AM
Dec 2022

BumRushDaShow

(129,122 posts)
37. My paternal great-grand parents graduated from Atlanta U
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:06 AM
Dec 2022

back in 1883 & 1884, but yeah, unless you are from there and know where you can and can't really go, it's concerning (especially the Stone Mountain area... although all around there and other Atlanta 'burbs, things are slowly changing thankfully).

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
39. Wow! Both great grands graduating from college in the 1880s is amazing. What an accomplishment
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:09 AM
Dec 2022

especially for your great grandmother. 100 years after that, I was the first to graduate college in my family and my brother was 8 hours later in the southern part of the state 🙂

BumRushDaShow

(129,122 posts)
40. Yeah back then
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:24 AM
Dec 2022

and especially as AAs. A century later I graduated from UMASS (1983).

I will say that no matter when you graduate, the fact that you did will always be a feather in your cap and a fantastic achievement because it is never easy!!!!

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
43. Do you know what they graduated in and how they then earned a living?
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:30 AM
Dec 2022

And as you say even more impressive as AAs. Imagine what their life was like. Do you have any more family stories about them?

BumRushDaShow

(129,122 posts)
45. They were teachers and my great-grandfather became a principal
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:36 AM
Dec 2022

(and back then of course, all the schools were segregated). And yeah there's a huge family story but suffice it to say that they passed on that expectation down through the generations that you will go to college!

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
46. My paternal grandparents were share croppers in North Florida. After many years they finally
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:48 AM
Dec 2022

were able to buy 40 acres of their own. My dad was in the Army and he had a 30 day furlough and spent that time building them a small house with indoor plumbing. Years later when he retired from the Army first and then AT&T he and my mom built a beautiful home on the property. My dad told my brother he had to go to college, a trade school or the military, his choice. My dad thought I should be an artist or maybe a dental assistant. My brother enrolled in College to study engineering. I thought hell, if he can do it I can as well. Ultimately despite him being 2 years older than I, we graduated on the same day. Dad told me many times how proud he was of me and at first surprised, he never thought to encourage me in the same way he did my brother. Based on his upbringing and the times, it was boys needed to prepare to support a family and girls didn’t. I remember thinking early on I was going to take care of myself and never have to depend on a spouse to do it. Anyway, I’ve had the best of both a long and interesting career and a wonderful husband of 35 years 🙂

BumRushDaShow

(129,122 posts)
47. Excellent story
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:09 AM
Dec 2022

and you described the choices that women faced - or as my mother would put it - "It was the M.S. or the Mrs.".

My mother would tell us that her mother's brothers (her uncles) all went to college but the girls were encouraged to of course find a husband and get married (my grandmother eventually became a LPN). My mother and her siblings all went to college however and my mother's challenge to us was always "I got mine and you got yours to get", so it was a grand day when we finally "got ours".

My father's father also went to Atlanta U (where his parents went) and graduated from UPenn Dental School (and although accepted to Penn Medical School, had been told they already had their 2 "n****rs" but he was welcome to go to the Dental School, which he did).

Bottom line - folks make a way.

MLAA

(17,298 posts)
48. How disappointing to get out of the south by being accepted into Penn Med School only
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:19 AM
Dec 2022

to face the same ignorant racist crap there. I so glad your dad didn’t let that stop him and he went on to Dental School. You certainly come from a line of high achievers!

BumRushDaShow

(129,122 posts)
49. Well they were not from the south
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:44 AM
Dec 2022

We have been northerners. My great-grandfather was actually born and raised in the Rochester/Buffalo area of NY (and some of his siblings had stayed up there and another actually had settled here in Philly). But except for Lincoln (where my dad went), and Cheney where one of my aunts went, the HBCUs like Atlanta U were primarily in the south and few blacks were permitted in any northern white colleges. They eventually moved to the south to teach at "colored schools".

malaise

(269,063 posts)
20. I knew Warnock was not going to lose this
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:00 AM
Dec 2022

He'll win by about 100,000 votes. Still can't figure out how people are so stupid - should have been a 60-40 blow out.

Response to True Blue American (Reply #19)

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
23. It's Joe!
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:21 AM
Dec 2022

People have seen what he is accomplishing. How wrong the media and polls have been.

Even Gingrich warned Republicans not to underestimate him.He has known Joe since he was House Leader

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
33. It's partly both.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:15 AM
Dec 2022

But, it's also partly Nancy and Chuck and others. Those who were run off by the clown show could have just stayed home and not voted against the clown show. But, I suspect that they saw what Joe and the Democratic leadership have been doing, and it helped them feel comfortable enough to vote Democratic, rather than not voting at all.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
5. Told you Biden
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 07:08 AM
Dec 2022

Is the second FDR, JRB, Jr!

Look what he has accomplished in 2 years, plus beating back that famous red wave to a puddle. They would not have the House except for the illlegal, gerrymandered maps and the Supremes allowing them.

Response to True Blue American (Reply #7)

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
25. Tim Ryan could have won Ohio.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:23 AM
Dec 2022

He had no help at all from the DNC or those who could have helped. Or the Ohio party. I let them know my opinion,too!

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
31. it's tough i know, but i hope Ryan w try again. He's a great candidate. Fetterman had much better
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:07 AM
Dec 2022

chances given his huge popularity in PA as their lieut. governor & all he's done at the local level there. I agree the national party needs to do better but with limited resources it is very hard otherwise they're spread too thinly.
BUT...for today we celebrate Fetterman's flip & Warnock's reelection and fight on. Again it came down to PA & GA

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
38. Please understand that Tim Ryan made a calculated choice on how he was going to run.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:06 AM
Dec 2022

He did not run on Biden’s record, and he chose to mention in stump speech’s when he agreed with trump.
Ryan did not want high profile surrogates coming in to Ohio to rally for him. The DNC spent their money on candidates who ran as strong Democrats. The party did not abandon Ryan, he abandoned them.

He was considered as being a Joe Manchin like candidate.

https://time.com/6228353/tim-ryan-ohio-trump-voters/

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
41. Not really.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:26 AM
Dec 2022

Ryan was outspoken in the House. He said he would work across party lines. We put Obama across the top in Ohio so he owed us.

Rural Ohio is red. Places that have jobs went Democratic. Sherrod beat DdeWine. Then he ran for AG. Lied like a dog to win. Maybe we can get Ryan to run for Governor.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
44. The Time article I posted gives perspective to how Ryan ran. Voters were not enthusiastic, the
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:31 AM
Dec 2022

turnout was abysmal, horrible. We have no state party.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
50. That is exactly what I told the Ohio DNC!
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 03:04 PM
Dec 2022

Last edited Wed Dec 7, 2022, 04:46 PM - Edit history (1)

I actually received an answer saying they undestood my disappointment. It was far beyond disappointment.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
17. They (MSNBC) said that Johnson blew it somehow.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 07:47 AM
Dec 2022

MSNBC was speculating on a 2nd term run. They were favorable and praised his experience and confidence. It's so nice having a normal, non theatrical POTUS. He is just what we needed.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
24. I wonder when they will acknowledge (the press) how successful President Biden
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 08:23 AM
Dec 2022

has been in the face of such overwhelming emergencies.. from a world wide pandemic that keeps coming back in a new form.. to moving half the children in poverty off, during a time of isolation. To keeping up off the ground in the war that Russia started in the Ukraine while supporting the Ukraine's.. in their efforts to regain their land.. He has been an amazing President. And he knew how to play his hand in the 22 elections

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
42. I consider Biden better than FDR.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:29 AM
Dec 2022

He’s gotten just as much done and he doesn’t have a bad civil rights record like FDR did.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
51. No, I remember FDR!
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 04:52 PM
Dec 2022

No one will match him. You do not know what FDR faced. He las had dipstick Republicans who caused the Depression, then had to fight them all the way. He welcomed their hatred!

But Biden is second.

Schumer just greeted Warnock back to WDC!

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