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CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:24 AM Dec 2022

Federal appeals court considers TFG's plea to grant him immunity from Capitol riot lawsuits

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/07/politics/trump-immunity-lawsuits-appeal-january-6

Donald Trump’s legal team will be back in court Wednesday morning to try to convince a federal appeals court that the former president should be immune from liability in three separate lawsuits stemming from the January 6, 2021, insurrection.

A federal judge in Washington, DC, ruled in February that the lawsuits can move forward, denying Trump’s claim that his conduct was shielded by the privileges of the presidency, and now Trump’s attorneys are appealing that decision.

“The underlying question here is simple: is a president immune from civil liability when he or she gives a speech on a matter of public concern? The answer is undoubtedly, yes,” Trump’s attorneys said in court papers. They argued Trump’s remarks at the center of the case – the speech he gave to supporters at the Ellipse prior to the attack – is protected by his “ironclad presidential immunity as it relates to speechmaking.”

The three lawsuits were filed last year by Democratic members of the House and police officers who defended the US Capitol on January 6, with the suits claiming Trump prompted his supporters to attack.

In his ruling earlier this year, DC District Court Judge Amit Mehta wrote that Trump’s statements to his supporters before the riot “is the essence of civil conspiracy” because Trump spoke about himself and rallygoers working “towards a common goal” of fighting and walking down Pennsylvania Ave.

“To deny a President immunity from civil damages is no small step. The court well understands the gravity of its decision. But the alleged facts of this case are without precedent,” Mehta wrote.
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Federal appeals court considers TFG's plea to grant him immunity from Capitol riot lawsuits (Original Post) CousinIT Dec 2022 OP
The speech Don gave was not because of "public concern". Freethinker65 Dec 2022 #1
Nobody is above Seditious Conspiracy. Bluethroughu Dec 2022 #2
He wants to destroy the country and have no consequences. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #3
Oh please. tanyev Dec 2022 #4
Exactly! This is shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater and waiting around to see people trampled. dutch777 Dec 2022 #7
I would just like to know gab13by13 Dec 2022 #5
Trump summoned supporters to "wild" protest, and told them to fight. They did Botany Dec 2022 #6
While he was President at the time Quanto Magnus Dec 2022 #8
Fuck Trump YoshidaYui Dec 2022 #9
It was NOT a riot; it was a planned, funded, coordinated INSURRECTION. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #10

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
1. The speech Don gave was not because of "public concern".
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:29 AM
Dec 2022

The speech was given ONLY to serve Don personally, to keep Don in power despite losing the election.

Bluethroughu

(5,172 posts)
2. Nobody is above Seditious Conspiracy.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:31 AM
Dec 2022

Trump instructed his supporters to attack the Capital for his benefit. Just because he lost doesn'tean it didn't happen. People died and the regular Legislative duties of our government were interrupted by people he instructed to fight, save, and take back our country from the evil Democrats.


14th Amendment him.

tanyev

(42,568 posts)
4. Oh please.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:34 AM
Dec 2022

Even without the speech, he was aware of advance planning and there were several hours of insurrection where he eagerly watched and refused to do anything to try and stop it.

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
5. I would just like to know
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:37 AM
Dec 2022

who is behind the dark money that is paying for all of Trump's lawyers.

I know he used money from his super pac to pay for lawyers for people like Kash Patel and others as a bribe to not spill the beans.

The money spent on legal fees would bankrupt most people.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
6. Trump summoned supporters to "wild" protest, and told them to fight. They did
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:37 AM
Dec 2022

Trump summoned supporters to "wild" protest, and told them to fight. They did

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The chaos in the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday unfolded after President Donald Trump spent weeks whipping up his supporters with false allegations of fraud in the Nov. 3 election, culminating in a call to march to the building that represents U.S. democracy.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-protests/trump-summoned-supporters-to-wild-protest-and-told-them-to-fight-they-did-idUSKBN29B24S

Trump helped to pay for "it"
invited people to D.C. on 1/6/21 to be wild
had his newly appointed acting head of the DoJ give stand down orders to the D.C. National Guard on 1/4/21
gave a pre-coup pep rally
lied repeatedly that he had really won the election to his mouth breathers
and refused to stop the violence but instead watched it on TV

Just because you are President you don't get immunity from civil or criminal prosecution. Trump needs to die
broke and in jail.

Quanto Magnus

(895 posts)
8. While he was President at the time
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 03:09 PM
Dec 2022

the speech he was giving was as a candidate and was not an official speech. Besides the fact that it was aimed at stopping an official proceeding.


Cheetolini won't think of it that way of course.... Everything he says is in the capacity as president... even now....

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