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I'm tired of hearing on DU how racist we are in GA (Original Post) Cattledog Dec 2022 OP
This entire country is built on white supremacy; it just manifests in different ways in different WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #1
Fortunately, we have some good evidence that at least half of Georgians are sensible, thoughtful, viva la Dec 2022 #2
Are they claiming their state is not racist ? There is racism all across the country JI7 Dec 2022 #3
Nope but the OP said the overwhelming majority of Georgians are racist. That's bullshit CurtEastPoint Dec 2022 #6
49% of Georgia voters marked Walker as their choice. 49%. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2022 #13
Not everyone in Georgia voted Kaleva Dec 2022 #19
Georgia is starting to look a very pretty blue, way to go Walleye Dec 2022 #4
Georgia is still a swing state. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2022 #15
+1. Wisconsin for 50 years. Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #5
I've lived in WI since I was 5 so that over 65 years now. It has a strong streak of racism here. elocs Dec 2022 #16
These are the beginning of the needed statistics. ty Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #20
Or the 2016 presidential election here in WI where the Green Party candidate elocs Dec 2022 #27
++ appalachiablue Dec 2022 #28
Same with Texas and Florida. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #7
same thing in Michigan with the one term nerd, Slick Rick Snyder. Meadowoak Dec 2022 #8
Snyder got 2 terms Johnny2X2X Dec 2022 #34
when he first ran, he called himself the 1 term nerd. I don't know how Meadowoak Dec 2022 #35
I've lived in GA on multiple occasions and have experienced the worst and the best hlthe2b Dec 2022 #9
Also..... GA gave us Stacey Abrams. Nobody can knock her. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #10
Georgia done good! Cracklin Charlie Dec 2022 #11
Agree. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #12
Sorry mate mahina Dec 2022 #14
Bless GA - Saved the nation twice, IMHO, from Trump facists packman Dec 2022 #17
Pick the reddest state out there & I guarantee it has lots of good but outnumbered citizens elocs Dec 2022 #18
I agree. I'm in Alabama in a red county so I'm surrounded The Third Doctor Dec 2022 #29
HATE THE HATE, NOT THE STATE TigressDem Dec 2022 #21
+++ appalachiablue Dec 2022 #30
Well, since Texas is obviously super racist and phobic... ananda Dec 2022 #22
Not the most racist state by far ecstatic Dec 2022 #23
Few states have elected a black senator delisen Dec 2022 #24
Every state has good and bad people. MuseRider Dec 2022 #25
I live in Florida. We get dumped on everyday. DUers hate us ... Earth-shine Dec 2022 #26
And I'm sick of the dumping. Fla. has many D people & good qualities. appalachiablue Dec 2022 #31
I live in Ohio Diamond_Dog Dec 2022 #32
Regionalism is a popular bigotry. Behind the Aegis Dec 2022 #33
Rural parts of Georgia aren't any more or less racist than rural parts of PA Trenzalore Dec 2022 #36

viva la

(3,303 posts)
2. Fortunately, we have some good evidence that at least half of Georgians are sensible, thoughtful,
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:25 AM
Dec 2022

and dedicated to democracy!

Certainly more than in my red state.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
3. Are they claiming their state is not racist ? There is racism all across the country
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:26 AM
Dec 2022

some places can be worse due to demographics which give certain people more power.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
13. 49% of Georgia voters marked Walker as their choice. 49%.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:48 AM
Dec 2022

The ONLY reasons to vote for Walker are all tied to racism. That's roughly half of all Georgia voters. They cynically mocked the entire election process by voting for a know-nothing, do-nothing, ignorant, likely brain-damaged candidate whose only strength was his token blackness and his Trump connections. Republicans wanted Walker as a statement: to own the libs. They all knew he was summarily unqualified to be Senator, and that was why they wanted to vote for him. They would rather dishonor the office of Senator than run and vote for a qualified candidate. And they wanted Walker in the Senate chamber to mock him as a "typical black man." This was racial hatred at its core.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
19. Not everyone in Georgia voted
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:59 AM
Dec 2022

A little more then half of adults in Georgia did vote in the runoff. If one defines a racist in Georgia as someone who voted for Walker, then about 25% of the adult population is racist.

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
4. Georgia is starting to look a very pretty blue, way to go
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:26 AM
Dec 2022

I believe that the worst racism in this country is not in the South. Not by a long shot

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
15. Georgia is still a swing state.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:52 AM
Dec 2022

When 49% of the state votes for racial hatred, Georgia's movement toward a multi-racial society outside of big cities is a long road to travel.

Tetrachloride

(7,847 posts)
5. +1. Wisconsin for 50 years.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:31 AM
Dec 2022

I’m going to keep harping on Wisconsin. I’d make a cow joke but i am not joking.

elocs

(22,582 posts)
16. I've lived in WI since I was 5 so that over 65 years now. It has a strong streak of racism here.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:55 AM
Dec 2022

We can't elect a Black man to the Senate, but while Ron Johnson has been in office we have elected and reelected an openly gay woman, Tammy Baldwin, to the Senate. So racism is greater than LGBTQ prejudice here.
Also, in a similarity to GA, 48,000 more people voted for Tony Evers than voted for Mandela Barnes and he lost by just under 27,000 votes.
My congressional district (gerrymandered), held by a Democrat for 26 years who chose to "retire" was won by an election denier and insurrectionist who was in D.C. on Jan. 6 and trespassing at the Capitol.

elocs

(22,582 posts)
27. Or the 2016 presidential election here in WI where the Green Party candidate
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 01:36 PM
Dec 2022

received more votes than Trump's margin of victory and I'd reckon those votes didn't come from the right.
In GA there were certainly many thousands of Republicans who voted for Walker, believed he was not qualified to be a senator, but wanted that seat in the Republican column. They understand that American politics is binary, it's either the Democratic or Republican candidate who will prevail. They want it to be the Republican. In 50 years of voting I've always voted for the Democratic candidate because even if I didn't agree with that person they still counted towards the Democrats controlling whatever body they were elected to serve. But I've never had to vote for any Democratic candidate here in WI who was remotely as bad as Walker.

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
7. Same with Texas and Florida.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:32 AM
Dec 2022

When Wisconsin went all Scott Walker We were always told we got what we deserved etc. Now that it’s happening everywhere, not so much.

Wisconsin has just as many racists as any place. But not the majority. We have drunk divers on their 7th DUI. Rednecks participating in plots to kidnap Whitmer.

That doesn’t mean we are all that way.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
34. Snyder got 2 terms
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 03:56 PM
Dec 2022

He was awful. He was a wolf in sheep's clothing. He was an extremist who made like 1 or 2 sensible decisions against his party's wishes and lived off those two decisions while he gutted our state for the working class and raised taxes on seniors.

Meadowoak

(5,551 posts)
35. when he first ran, he called himself the 1 term nerd. I don't know how
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 05:33 PM
Dec 2022

he got reelected, believe me, I voted against him both times.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
9. I've lived in GA on multiple occasions and have experienced the worst and the best
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:37 AM
Dec 2022

(especially now) of change in GA. I am so heartened by the changes I am seeing now. Hell, even Gingrich's old stomping grounds in Cobb CO have turned decisively blue. Cherokee CO is another story, but as it remains a "bedroom community" to Atlanta, surely growth will put a strain on its demographics as well. Gwinnett has shown tremendous change as it has burst with growth as well.

Change is good. I returned to help turn CO blue decades ago and it has largely (but not fully succeeded. GA's turn to purple is phenomenal and far more quickly than anticipated. There are racist areas with white nationalist groups in some areas of Colorado (see the SPLC's excellent database)--as there similarly are in Idaho and Montana and at least some presence in all the states--even California. That GA and most of the South have to outlive its history before some attitudes change is undoubtedly true, but speaking of my own state of Colorado, we have a long way to go as well. Never a slave state, but boy did the KKK have influence here in decades past, and the horrific treatment of Native Americans continues to haunt. To wit, the renaming efforts that lauded racist politicos or disparaged Native Americans and others have picked up steam. No state is immune from this. Those who think otherwise are not looking closely enough and/or do not know their own history.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
11. Georgia done good!
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:42 AM
Dec 2022

I don’t need a mirror…I live in Missouri. White national state leadership top to bottom.

Congratulations to ya’ll today!

mahina

(17,669 posts)
14. Sorry mate
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:49 AM
Dec 2022

That’s got to suck. We have a hard time understanding other places sometimes. It’s a little bit of human nature to take mental shortcuts.

I don’t understand the whole mainland at all in case it makes you feel any better

Hey congratulations by the way!

elocs

(22,582 posts)
18. Pick the reddest state out there & I guarantee it has lots of good but outnumbered citizens
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:58 AM
Dec 2022

on the Left. Imagine how life is for them there. So it's not good to always paint with the broad brush.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
21. HATE THE HATE, NOT THE STATE
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 12:14 PM
Dec 2022

People need to grow up and focus on the positive.

EVEN in a heavily gerrymandered state, Georgia did a GREAT JOB of GOTV and WINNING this for the DEMS and America.


WE HAVE to STOP the election interference because when more people vote DEMS win.

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
23. Not the most racist state by far
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 12:27 PM
Dec 2022

Unfortunately, every state has its share of institutional racism and everyday racism. I think Georgia is a little different due to the racial diversity throughout the state. Whites are only 50% of the population. Most Georgians are not able to completely disconnect and we all work side by side for the most part, so that creates a little more empathy than what might be found in other states.

I think the main thing holding us back from taking over the state entirely is gerrymandering. The only other issue would be hesitancy from some small business owners, many of whom are people of color (over 20%). Georgia is tied in 5th place with Illinois for the states with the most small businesses. Universal healthcare would go a long way in allowing businesses to thrive without having to worry about employee healthcare costs. Also, every state and industry is different so you can't go around setting arbitrary minimum wage amounts, which is why even senator Warnock said no to the $15 minimum wage idea. Just my opinion.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
24. Few states have elected a black senator
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 12:56 PM
Dec 2022

Two black men competed to be senator from Georgia

All Georgians who voted for them voted for a black person.

Interesting

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
25. Every state has good and bad people.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 01:05 PM
Dec 2022

I live in Kansas and I cannot even tell you how many times I have been told to leave the state to move to "somewhere good". Fuck them, just ignore them. They might not really mean harm but they certainly do not mean good for you or your state OR the country. It is BS, nobody lives in Purityville and most of us don't want to. Just ignore it, it will never stop unless you can somehow get all of the people in Georgia be like those DUers. Georgia needs you as Kansas needs me and all the Kansas DU people.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
26. I live in Florida. We get dumped on everyday. DUers hate us ...
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 01:12 PM
Dec 2022

... until they want some orange juice or a visit to Disney World.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
33. Regionalism is a popular bigotry.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 03:48 PM
Dec 2022

It usually focuses on the South, but we can see it in regard to "the flyover states", as in, they are of no consequence, the latte liberal elites, usually the Northeast, especially New York, and the "earthy-crunchy crowd" of the Pacific Northwest. There is a bit of an elitist attitude toward those of us from the South or living in the South, especially when the discussion of ancestry comes into play. I mean, we all know, there was no racism in the North back in the day.

Regionalism is also international with the most popular target of the left being Israel in a negative way, but it is also rampant in the "paternalistic bigotry" when discussion Middle East countries, except Israel, and many African nations. The right is highly regionalist when it comes to Iran, China, Russia (sometimes), Venezuela, and the Middle East countries, except Israel, in most cases.

It is simply another form of bigotry that some use to disparage the people of those places.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
36. Rural parts of Georgia aren't any more or less racist than rural parts of PA
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 05:35 PM
Dec 2022

Atlanta is a progressive city with national cultural importance.

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