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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsState legislatures deciding elections would lead to mass uprisings against the Republicans
and probably lead to the civil war they want so badly.
I've thought about this since I first heard about Moore v. Harper.
There would be absolutely no way to accept this.
And there would be no way to fight it in court because they can't override the Supreme Court.
Democracy would be completely over and we'd have nothing else left to lose.
I'd rather be dead than live under a fascist dictatorship.
Duty2Warn is also worried about this:
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jimfields33
(15,823 posts)Well be fine.
Zeitghost
(3,862 posts)State legislatures have complete control over the selecting of electors to the Electoral College.
They have power with congressional oversight on the time, place and manor of congressional elections.
Jim__
(14,077 posts)On choosing the Electors of the president:
He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
sanatanadharma
(3,707 posts)Seems to me that the election clause itself repudiates the independent legislature theory.
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:
"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."
The election clause says Congress can negate (change) State choices.
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allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)rein to redistrict (gerrymand), to restrict voting procedures, and even to certify federal candidates who lost a statewide election like TFG lost. The theory was behind Eastman & company's insistence that swing states could supply their own slates of Electors on Jan. 6. There won't be any recourse for voters to resort to a state's constitution or Supreme Court to prevent that happening. The basis of the case (Moore v. Harper) is this part of the Constitution:
"The times, places and manner of holding elections for senators and representatives shall be prescribed in each state by the legislative thereof.",
What alarms me is that if granted by the SCOTUS, this doctrine is just a slap-and-tickle away from the Unitary Executive Theory that proposes all powers not specifically outlined in the U.S. Constitution belong to the POTUS. A person like TFG could launch an effort to establish a dictatorship...and possibly succeed.
Initech
(100,081 posts)He needs to be thrown off the bench immediately, and Ginni needs to be arrested for conspiring to commit treason.