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How much chance is there of Manchin switching parties (Original Post) tavernier Dec 2022 OP
Zero, if he wants another term. He would 100% lose a Repuke primary in WV and he knows it. RockRaven Dec 2022 #1
I don't know... myohmy2 Dec 2022 #2
I'd expect Sinema to switch first Retrograde Dec 2022 #3
They are only of value if they jump together bottomofthehill Dec 2022 #4
My gut muscles can't take more thoughts. UTUSN Dec 2022 #5
he wields no power as a rethug. Takket Dec 2022 #6
This. If he jumps, he's powerless unless he threatens to jump back. Kennah Dec 2022 #13
Zero. Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2022 #7
None Murphyb849 Dec 2022 #8
Well. 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2022 #9
He has key committee assignments as a Democrat onenote Dec 2022 #10
Never happen - Manchin is a proud lifelong Democrat FakeNoose Dec 2022 #11
Please stop with this foolishness... brooklynite Dec 2022 #12
+10000 Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #15
All so noted, and I mostly agree... DemocraticPatriot Dec 2022 #17
0 chance. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #14
He voted to Impeach Trump DemocraticPatriot Dec 2022 #16

RockRaven

(14,977 posts)
1. Zero, if he wants another term. He would 100% lose a Repuke primary in WV and he knows it.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:30 PM
Dec 2022

The only way for him to remain in office for yet another term, if it is possible at all, is to remain a "centrist" Dem.

myohmy2

(3,164 posts)
2. I don't know...
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 09:30 PM
Dec 2022

...what could the turtle offer him that we couldn't meet or beat?

...I wouldn't put it past him if we didn't his kiss ass properly...

...

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
9. Well.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:36 PM
Dec 2022

Fírst I think he's already been asked.
Understand in WV he has to be a center/right Democrat.
Considering it would be political suicide he won't switch.
Keeping in mind that Mr Joe is a coal guy it
just makes sense he'll refuse any offer to switch.
Other than that I can't think of a good reason he'd risk
everything just to stay in power.

That's just my opinion.

onenote

(42,715 posts)
10. He has key committee assignments as a Democrat
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:40 PM
Dec 2022

Chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, and also serves on the Senate Committee on Appropriations, the Senate Committee on Armed Services, and the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs.

brooklynite

(94,634 posts)
12. Please stop with this foolishness...
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:44 PM
Dec 2022

Nothing personal, but this nonsense idea gets brought up every month or so. As much as some people here don't accept it, Joe Manchin is a DEMOCRAT. He was a Democratic Governor before he became a Democratic Senator. And he became a Democratic Senator (along with Joe Donnelly, Heidi Heitkamp, Mary Landrieu and Claire McCaskill) before the Senate Democrats became as Blue State liberal as they are now. He supports a substantial amount of Democratic policy and all of Biden's nominees. And the only likely alternative is that he gets replaced by a far more conservative Republican.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,374 posts)
17. All so noted, and I mostly agree...
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 12:45 AM
Dec 2022

but he has been the "Democrat" most responsible for thwarting party initiatives in the past 2 years, yes ??

but I agree that he will not switch parties, his ONLY HOPE for the next 2 years is to KISS the ASS of the Democratic base in his state!!


Regardless, I have not much hope for his re-election in 2024, should he choose to seek it...

Party voting "percentages" matter less, than what happened on the 'big issues'--

and he has given the BIG FINGER to the Democratic base in his state,
and in the entire country, for the past 2 years....

In a state where Trump won by a GOD-AWFUL percentage,
when you fuck your party base, you fuck yourself.

If the Republicans run a "very nice" election denier, who has not been caught having sex with "a dead girl, or a live boy",
they may very well win the next senate election for that seat... (no matter what the GOP House does)

(and even my cited notes are no longer 'disqualifiers', as things seem now... Republicans will vote for any candidate who beat his wife, pointed a gun to her head, and performed abortions on his kitchen table--- as long as they has that "R" by their name)



DemocraticPatriot

(4,374 posts)
16. He voted to Impeach Trump
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 12:32 AM
Dec 2022

(once? or twice?? not sure. both times I think, without doing the research right now)


If he wants to run for re-election in 2024, there is NO CHANCE for him to win the Republican nomination for Senate in that state....


On the other hand, if he wanted to switch parties, he would no longer be able to deny control to the Democratic party--
such as it has been for the previous 2 years...


I consider it very unlikely, with the results of the 2022 midterms.



Manchin does not seem like a tadpole with the courage to 'swim against the tide', does he ??

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