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icymist

(15,888 posts)
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:27 PM Dec 2022

Amazon, FBI.gov, and 70,000 Other Sites Are Sending Your Data to Elon's Twitter, New Research Says

In October, Elon Musk purchased Twitter for a cool $44 billion dollars. Among a variety of other assets and headaches, the deal came with one resource that’s gone under-explored: a vast data collection network spanning the sites of more than 70,000 Fortune 500 companies, government agencies, non-profits, universities, and more. Given Twitter’s history of security lapses, how safe is all that data?

At least 70,772 websites are using a Twitter advertising tool called a pixel to send the company information about every person who visits their sites, even people who don’t have Twitter accounts, according to a bombshell new report from Adalytics, an ad tech firm. The list includes the websites of government agencies—the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, the Department of Education’s student aid portal—Fortune 500 behemoths—Amazon, General Motors, Pfizer—and health care companies like WebMD and UnitedHealth Group. General Motors, Pfizer, and other companies that claimed they pulled their ads from Twitter after Musk’s takeover continued to send Twitter data using the advertising Pixel.

By sending data to Twitter, organizations may be putting themselves and their visitors at serious risk. Twitter has a lengthy history of data breaches, infiltration by foreign governments, and fines for security issues by the FTC. Most recently, Twitter’s former head of security resigned and filed a whistleblower complaint accusing the company of disastrous security practices—and that was before Elon Musk laid off over half of Twitter’s staff, including swaths of its security team. Among a host of other tech companies that collect data using similar means, that makes Twitter particularly concerning.

The report also finds that many websites haven’t taken the proper precautions to avoid cyber threats known as a supply chain and code injection attacks, which could allow websites to be hijacked if Twitter was compromised. That’s an even bigger issue due to Twitter’s history of security problems and apparent lack of engineering staff. In such attacks, third party tools are compromised and used to infiltrate an organizations systems, a serious threat when you’re talking about Fortune 500 companies or FBI.gov. It’s unlikely, but this kind of attack has happened before, and a similar mechanism led to the SolarWinds hack which compromised much of the US government and private sector.

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-amazon-fbi-70000-sites-data-security-1849867489
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Amazon, FBI.gov, and 70,000 Other Sites Are Sending Your Data to Elon's Twitter, New Research Says (Original Post) icymist Dec 2022 OP
We need a federal law protecting our personal data. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #1
Yeah we do I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2022 #3
They have those laws in Europe orthoclad Dec 2022 #15
Personal information is hacked from federal websites. former9thward Dec 2022 #21
Corporations monetize your personal data without your permission. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #26
You dismiss the lack of security with federal websites? former9thward Dec 2022 #29
I dismiss straw-men and red herrings. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #31
Here's how I handle the twit to starve it of revenue. Snarkoleptic Dec 2022 #2
I use Firefox with NoScript wackadoo wabbit Dec 2022 #5
Not sure about compatibility, as I'm fairly low-tech. Snarkoleptic Dec 2022 #6
I was going to ask... SergeStorms Dec 2022 #7
A script-blocker orthoclad Dec 2022 #14
Thanks. SergeStorms Dec 2022 #19
I'm an amateur orthoclad Dec 2022 #30
I use Express VPN, GoodRaisin Dec 2022 #16
I use Firefox, NoScript, and AdBlock orthoclad Dec 2022 #10
FireFox w/NoScript, uBlock, DuckDuckGo's Privacy Essentials & EFF's Badger cuts all ads/tracking out TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 #27
Blocking ads won't stop tracking pixels orthoclad Dec 2022 #17
I jumped to Linux Mint. GreenWave Dec 2022 #28
K & R ... n/t wackadoo wabbit Dec 2022 #4
What an f-ing mess Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #8
fuck "opt out"! if you "opt in", get PAID for EVERY DAMN MICROBYTE, and % of any profit derived bringthePaine Dec 2022 #9
MODERATORS, orthoclad Dec 2022 #11
Quit or lose all credibility. AnrothElf Dec 2022 #12
Does my VPN stop this? Ferrets are Cool Dec 2022 #13
Tracking pixels need orthoclad Dec 2022 #18
What could possibly go wrong? Initech Dec 2022 #20
Here's a good all-around rundown from EFF orthoclad Dec 2022 #22
Pixel blockers, no script, ad blockers are easy methods. Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #23
So if Elmo didn't buy twitter, would any of this been made public? Bev54 Dec 2022 #24
So an easy question to moniss Dec 2022 #25
No one's mentioned googletagmanager yet! dickthegrouch Dec 2022 #32

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,330 posts)
3. Yeah we do
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:48 PM
Dec 2022

Selling of information and poaching our information should be a felony.
The rich wont like that because there is
So much money to be had exploiting people and selling thier stuff.

Yet the minute some parasite oligarch gets thier information poached and sold then they'll howl something must be done about this!!

Nothing happens unless its thier pampered asses are attacked.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
21. Personal information is hacked from federal websites.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 11:42 PM
Dec 2022

How would the law apply to them?

Hacks of OPM databases compromised 22.1 million people, federal authorities say

Two major breaches last year of U.S. government databases holding personnel records and security-clearance files exposed sensitive information about at least 22.1 million people, including not only federal employees and contractors but their families and friends, U.S. officials said Thursday.

The total vastly exceeds all previous estimates, and marks the most detailed accounting by the Office of Personnel Management of how many people were affected by cyber intrusions that U.S. officials have privately said were traced to the Chinese government.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/07/09/hack-of-security-clearance-system-affected-21-5-million-people-federal-authorities-say/

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
26. Corporations monetize your personal data without your permission.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 12:33 AM
Dec 2022

This is not about "hacking".

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
29. You dismiss the lack of security with federal websites?
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 12:19 PM
Dec 2022

The hackers also monetize your personal data without your permission.

Snarkoleptic

(6,214 posts)
2. Here's how I handle the twit to starve it of revenue.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:47 PM
Dec 2022

I use Firefox with AdBlock Plus (free extension) and Privacy Badger (free extension from EFF).
I have not seen an ad on Twitter or Youtube in a couple of years.

Until this week, I was also using Ghostery (free extension), but Twit is onto it and now truncates page scrolling.
I toyed with the setting and found a way that will allow Ghostery to run as well.

Linkski-
https://adblockplus.org/
https://www.eff.org/pages/privacy-badger

Not sure Ghostery will be helpful, so leaving that out.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,287 posts)
5. I use Firefox with NoScript
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:55 PM
Dec 2022

If I don't allow JavaScript programs to run, I figure I'm mostly (probably?) safe.

Of course, I have to allow JavaScript on those rare occasions I order from Amazon, so maybe not?

Do you know if AdBlock Plus is compatible with NoScript?

Snarkoleptic

(6,214 posts)
6. Not sure about compatibility, as I'm fairly low-tech.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 10:32 PM
Dec 2022

I might want to get a VPN as well, but one of the biggies had a data breach, so not excited jumping right in.

SergeStorms

(20,002 posts)
7. I was going to ask...
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 10:53 PM
Dec 2022

if a VPN would protect me from this nefarious bullshit. I run the McAfee Security Suite and chose to have the VPN on always.

I'd hate to have that right-wing lunatic Musk knowing anything about me.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
14. A script-blocker
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 11:32 PM
Dec 2022

is your best protection against tracking pixels, I use NoScript when browsing.

Harvesting personal data (see Siri, Alexa for instance) is the biggest growth industry in the US. Why else is Zuckerberg rich?

GoodRaisin

(10,737 posts)
16. I use Express VPN,
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 11:35 PM
Dec 2022

with Purify for my Ad blocker, and use Duck Duck Go for my search engine. Plus run it all in Private mode on my iPad. Also stopped signing on to Facebook and Twitter. I don’t have a PC anymore either. I do everything with an iPad and iPhone, which works fine for my limited needs.

And, hope it’s enough to keep the unwanted out.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
10. I use Firefox, NoScript, and AdBlock
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 11:11 PM
Dec 2022

which is why many of the features on this site, especially the infamous "Link to tweet", don't work for me. For instance, MSN, the commonest link here, won't even load: I get a blank page. That's my net hygiene.

Blocking ads won't stop tracking pixels.

Browsing without protection is like... well, think condoms.

Tracking pixels, also called Meta pixels for Facebook, are ubiqitous. They require a script, generally Javascript, to run. Once you hit a tracking pixel (an invisible single pixel on a web page), the owners of that pixel can follow you all over, plus get all sorts of info on you. They're among the worst of the spyware.

There was a big stink following Dodd about medical web sites using tracking pixels. Some white-hat hackers pretended they were seeking abortion information. Enough got harvested to net a bounty hunter that TX 10K.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/06/facebook-is-receiving-sensitive-medical-information-from-hospital-websites/

BTW, a long time ago, I heard that any website with that little zuckbook or tooter icon will track members. One reason I never joined. This, I think, is different.

The web is predator heaven. Personal data collection makes Musk and Zuckerberg fabulously wealthy (among others). Biggest growth industry in the US. WE ATE THE PRODUCT.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
27. FireFox w/NoScript, uBlock, DuckDuckGo's Privacy Essentials & EFF's Badger cuts all ads/tracking out
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 12:58 AM
Dec 2022

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
17. Blocking ads won't stop tracking pixels
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 11:35 PM
Dec 2022

If Elmo's hard up for cash (especially with ads fleeing), you best believe he's going to monetize all your personal data.

GreenWave

(12,371 posts)
28. I jumped to Linux Mint.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 04:29 AM
Dec 2022

I search with Duck, duck.
I use Firefox
Adblock Ultimate (Ublovk is also great)
Flagfox

No problem.

Democracy is the price we pay for Musk's freedom for hate speech.

bringthePaine

(1,806 posts)
9. fuck "opt out"! if you "opt in", get PAID for EVERY DAMN MICROBYTE, and % of any profit derived
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 11:05 PM
Dec 2022
 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
12. Quit or lose all credibility.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 11:23 PM
Dec 2022

Try Mastodon for fuck's sake. It free, open source, friendly, and active. No "algorithm" except first in first out.

Leave the walled gardens. What will it take to convince otherwise reasonable progressives to stop blithely enriching fascists? Fuck the excuses. Delete your account. Fuck your family. Your work. Your Good German friends. Do the right thing.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
22. Here's a good all-around rundown from EFF
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 11:50 PM
Dec 2022

of how to protect privacy in this predator heaven, the net. It was published after Dodd. Abortion-seekers had their online behavior (like searches for abortion providers) used against them in court.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/digital-security-and-privacy-tips-those-involved-abortion-access

It's a constant arms race between data predators and data protectors, so no measures are fool-proof. I have said for decades that you should pretend you're on a busy streetcorner when you're on the internet -- where people can also follow you home. And take your picture and listen to you.

Personally, I never use tooter, zuckbook or anything gaggle. And I don't allow Siri or Alexa in my house.

If you're using Safari, every once in a while go to Preferences/Privacy/Manage Website Data to see a list of all the junk that websites have put on your machine.

Tetrachloride

(9,404 posts)
23. Pixel blockers, no script, ad blockers are easy methods.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 11:54 PM
Dec 2022

Mac users can also make use of Little Snitch

Last and not least, a decent “hosts.txt” file for another fundamental layer of protection.

moniss

(8,767 posts)
25. So an easy question to
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 12:20 AM
Dec 2022

ask about this would be why would someone knowingly come into a treasure trove of data and make that data basically completely vulnerable to be "stolen"? Follow the money would be my guess. Maybe he is just bartering the info screwing everybody and keeping that fact confidential? I perhaps have some areas that competent media (too bad we don't have it) could explore. How about questions like is this horse's backside doing this in exchange for favorable considerations for his car business? Is he doing it to allow nefarious foreign governments to use the data much like the almost human Zuckerberg did with Cambridge Analytica and how is the financial payoff for Musk committing these acts being done? Is he to get a slide on some of the debt he took on for buying Twitter? How many and who are the parties getting this info by way of Twitter?

There I go again. Silly me. Asking pertinent questions when I should know by now that media will be much more interested in asking Joe Rogan what he thinks abut Prince Harry.

dickthegrouch

(4,306 posts)
32. No one's mentioned googletagmanager yet!
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 08:56 PM
Dec 2022

Just as ubiquitous.
Equally odious and silent as to its behavior.
Every site using it claims to be protective of our privacy. Utter BS.

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