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onenote

(42,715 posts)
2. If Sinema is caucusing with the Democrats, it's better.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:39 AM
Dec 2022

Because it means, for purposes of committee assignments, it is still a 51-49 majority.

onenote

(42,715 posts)
4. Yes. Technically, of course, the Senate is 48D, 49R, 3I
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:46 AM
Dec 2022

Sinema joins Sanders and King as an Independent. The other two caucus with the Democrats and in all likelihood, Sinema will as well.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
5. We currently have two other Independent senators who caucus with the Democrats.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:48 AM
Dec 2022

Neither Bernie Sanders or Angus King are registered Democrats but they caucus with the Democrats and count towards our majority. Assuming she continues to caucus with us, it's 51-49--better off than we were for the last two years because we have control over the committees.

sarisataka

(18,679 posts)
6. In my tunnel vision
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 11:02 AM
Dec 2022

Of potential problems, I neglected the other independents.

In reality we are going to have a 49-48-3 senate. Expressed mathematically the advantage goes to dems ((48+2)+1)>49 at least for now.

However I expect some will maneuver to enhance their power...

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
7. Yes it is better. There is only one significant difference
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 12:15 PM
Dec 2022

Fetterman replaced Toomey. Manchin and Sinema are who they are and it seems they will still caucus with us. All other changes, like Welch for Leahy are similar people. Portman for Vance might be for the worse.

Using your model, in the last two years, we had 48, the Republicans 50 , and 2 other. In fact, in a worse case scenario, where in anger she opts to caucus with the Republicans, that would be D49, R49, and other 2 because she would be a flake in either caucus. Still better than the last 2 years.

Freethinker65

(10,026 posts)
8. Nothing changes if Sinema caucuses with the Democrats like the others independents do.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 12:22 PM
Dec 2022

Sinema stays in the news and rakes in more donor money.

If the Republicans go MAGA in the Senate, they could lose a few Senators to "Independence" as well. For example, Murkowski is well aware she just won her reelection thanks to Democrats in her State.

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