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hay rick

(7,611 posts)
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 10:38 AM Dec 2022

The Book of Genesis, Sistine Chapel, etc. updated by Ron and Casey DeSantis.



It's crude. It's sacrilegious. It's a DeSantis campaign commercial:

The mass media may be too embarrassed to give this video the coverage it deserves. Also, there's a risk it could derail the DeSantis narrative that they have been busily assembling in advance of the 2024 presidential campaign.

This video should not be confused with a random exercise in repulsively bad taste. In fact, DeSantis has been carefully crafting and refining his message with the objective of claiming evangelical Christians as his dependable base.
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The Book of Genesis, Sistine Chapel, etc. updated by Ron and Casey DeSantis. (Original Post) hay rick Dec 2022 OP
On behalf of tens of millions of people I say this guy is a piece of shit Walleye Dec 2022 #1
A steaming pile. Native Dec 2022 #2
All he needs is that little black mustache. He's a Nazi. nt Hotler Dec 2022 #13
Do NOT underestimate this guy. He knows what he is doing and is betting on The Stupid to be fooled CTyankee Dec 2022 #3
Agreed NowISeetheLight Dec 2022 #16
Fighters went out with the Old Testament Tbear Dec 2022 #4
Ron is an Old Testament kind of guy. nt hay rick Dec 2022 #6
Since when? Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #11
I thought Gawd didn't pick our leaders. NoMoreRepugs Dec 2022 #5
That woman he speaks of surely isn't an immigrant. sinkingfeeling Dec 2022 #7
Not an original thought in his evil little head. Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #8
Thanks for providing context which I missed. hay rick Dec 2022 #10
He's a vengeful arrogant bully responsible for untold deaths from COVID in FL. Timeflyer Dec 2022 #9
Paul Krugman estimated that DeSantis' policies led to approximately 20,000 avoidable deaths. hay rick Dec 2022 #12
His pandering is paying early dividends. hay rick Dec 2022 #14
I think this is may qualify as the most repugnant political ad that I've ever seen. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #15
Great quote about DeSatan from FL's pro-choice minority leader of the state senate, Lauren Book (D): allegorical oracle Dec 2022 #17
I think the media have done the right thing by not giving this coverage muriel_volestrangler Dec 2022 #18
I disagree. hay rick Dec 2022 #19
Doesn't matter. DeSantis doesn't have to appeal to non-evangelicals for another 2 years. muriel_volestrangler Dec 2022 #20
I think Conjuay Dec 2022 #21
He doesn't like to wear his white boots after Labor Day. hay rick Dec 2022 #22

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. Do NOT underestimate this guy. He knows what he is doing and is betting on The Stupid to be fooled
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 10:46 AM
Dec 2022

n/t

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
16. Agreed
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 03:18 PM
Dec 2022

He’s intelligent…. Way more dangerous than Trump. I can totally picture him as a “Young Hitler” personality. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

Tbear

(487 posts)
4. Fighters went out with the Old Testament
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 10:53 AM
Dec 2022

He blesses peacemakers now. The humble, meek, poor in spirit.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
11. Since when?
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 12:29 PM
Dec 2022

I seem to remember that particular deity getting violent with those merchants at the temple--even though they weren't doing anything violent? Yeah, real peaceful, that, and yet all the followers seem to love him for doing that.

And then there's this telling bit:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.


--Matthew 10:34

Well, that's one true thing he said. Because that's exactly what way too many of his followers have done ever since. See: Crusades. See: Reformation wars. See: Inquisition. See: Conquest of the "New" World. See: Persecution of Jews, women (witch hysteria), brown people (it's okay to enslave them, as per papal decrees!). See: Well, I don't have all day for that list.

All of that is a rather weird definition of "peacemaking."

Phoenix61

(17,004 posts)
8. Not an original thought in his evil little head.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 11:15 AM
Dec 2022

“As Axios first reported, the ad is a spinoff from the popular and beloved “So God Made a Farmer” speech delivered in 1978 by radio broadcaster Paul Harvey to Future Farmers of America in Kansas City, Missouri.
Harvey’s ad began: “God said, ‘I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, milk cows, work all day in the fields, milk cows again, eat supper, then go to town and stay past midnight at a meeting of the school board. So God made a farmer.’” “

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/amp/news/252752/desantis-criticized-for-running-god-made-a-fighter-ad

Timeflyer

(1,993 posts)
9. He's a vengeful arrogant bully responsible for untold deaths from COVID in FL.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 11:38 AM
Dec 2022

Now he's destroying lives by vilifying LGBTQ kids (like growing up isn't hard enough without official government censure) and making skilled educators afraid to teach truth about US history. Waiting for the arc of history to squash him and his enablers, but it's gonna take years to undo the damage.

hay rick

(7,611 posts)
12. Paul Krugman estimated that DeSantis' policies led to approximately 20,000 avoidable deaths.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 12:39 PM
Dec 2022

I think he's in the ballpark. I wrote about DeSantis' Covid culpability a few months ago here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217050914

hay rick

(7,611 posts)
14. His pandering is paying early dividends.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 01:58 PM
Dec 2022

Last edited Tue Dec 13, 2022, 07:35 PM - Edit history (1)

In Florida, many "non-partisan" elections for school board and city commissions are held on the primary election day. In my county, an evangelical Christian megachurch pushed two county school board candidates and a city commission candidate. All of the candidates were church members and were endorsed from the pulpit. Parishioners were offered help in filling out their ballots. All three candidates were elected.

Governor/campaign synergy for the school board campaigns was orchestrated. School board candidates were given a questionnaire by the DeSantis campaign giving them a chance to pledge support for the governor's education agenda (Don't Say Gay, "parental rights," etc.). They were then endorsed by the governor and their campaigns received financial support. Their "woke" opponents were attacked in multiple, expensive mailers sent out by DeSantis-aligned PACs.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
17. Great quote about DeSatan from FL's pro-choice minority leader of the state senate, Lauren Book (D):
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 03:50 PM
Dec 2022

"People have said Donald Trump is like Jason: He goes through with a chainsaw and kills everybody there. Ron DeSantis is like Hannibal Lector: He's going to enjoy you with a glass of Chianti."


on Huffpo a couple of days ago, so don't know if link is still active. Word is that Ron is going to propose changing the current 15-week abortion law to outlaw it at either conception or six weeks.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-republican-supermajority-in-florida-is-ready-to-shred-abortion-rights/ar-AA156uzA?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b51e5ad2fc2a4ef1a02006e81d4e985d

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
18. I think the media have done the right thing by not giving this coverage
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 04:13 PM
Dec 2022

Why on earth would you want them to draw attention to a Republican campaign commercial? Yes, it obviously puts you and me off, but we would never consider voting for him anyway. As you say, he's aiming for evangelical Christians, especially those he needs to pull from Trump (whom they are bound to still have disgust for, even if they think he's useful). He may think it will eventually be a net help with independents too, but his strategy now is to beat Trump in the primaries (or persuade Trump to drop out with some excuse). It would be disgraceful if the media were drawing attention to this (or, even worse, showing clips from it).

hay rick

(7,611 posts)
19. I disagree.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 06:46 PM
Dec 2022

This is a message that is tailored to appeal very narrowly to evangelicals. The media downplaying this allows the DeSantis campaign to manage the distribution of this message to their target audience (it has been on Twitter, but not Youtube or broadcast media as far as I know.) I think the style and substance of this message would be repugnant to many people who take their religion seriously. As I said, I think the media is protecting the DeSantis campaign with sparse and selective coverage.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
20. Doesn't matter. DeSantis doesn't have to appeal to non-evangelicals for another 2 years.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 07:15 PM
Dec 2022

It's all about getting Republicans to think he's better than Trump. Republicans have been proven to have no coherent idea of what a "good Christian" candidate is. They just need ways to feel they are the "good Christians", and this provides that. And there's no way that telling independents or Democrats about this now will have a noticeable effect in 2 years' time.

But I still think the number of non-Republicans who would have their opinion of him appreciably lowered by seeing this is tiny, now or in 2 years' time. They just won't care.

The media talking about this now would be a contribution in kind to DeSantis' campaign.

hay rick

(7,611 posts)
22. He doesn't like to wear his white boots after Labor Day.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 08:06 PM
Dec 2022

He did make an exception for Hurricane Ian.

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