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riversedge

(70,248 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 02:50 PM Dec 2022

Donald Trump Jr. Was Behind The Plan To Use State Legislatures To Overturn The Election

I do not know who could go after him?? The DOJ?? I hope they do--he is such a smarty pants.





Posted on Tue, Dec 13th, 2022 by Jason Easley


Donald Trump Jr. Was Behind The Plan To Use State Legislatures To Overturn The Election

The vast criminality behind the Trump effort to overturn the 2020 election extended to his son Donald Trump Jr.



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Talking Points Memo has more from Mark Meadows’s texts.

Donald Trump Jr. texted Meadows:

It’s very simple If through our lawsuits and recounts the Secretary of States on each state cannot �certify� that states vote the State Assemblies can step in and vote to put forward the electoral slate Republicans control Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina etc � we get Trump electors There is a Safe Harbor on 8 December if for whatever reason you miss that the Electors then cannot meet in the individual state Capitols on 14 December So we either have a vote WE control and WE win OR it gets kicked to Congress 6 January 2021 the House meets to vote�- by state party delegation� 1 vote per state California 1 ; Montana 1 Republicans control 28 states Democrats 22 states Once again Trump wins Senate votes for VP Pence wins Summary We have multiple paths We hold them all We have operational control Total leverage Moral High Ground POTUS must start 2nd Term now Fire Wray ; Fire Faucci Make Grennel interim head of FBI Have Barr select Special Prosecutor on HardDrivefromHell Biden crime family.


Donald Trump Jr. was talking about operational control as if the will of the people is something that can be ignored and twisted to suit the needs of an incumbent president who has lost an election.

Trump Jr. is as dangerous as his father because he shares the same disregard for democracy. The Trumps don’t want power so that they can govern and do things for the American people..............................
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Donald Trump Jr. Was Behind The Plan To Use State Legislatures To Overturn The Election (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2022 OP
K&R secondwind Dec 2022 #1
I doubt he was clever enough or knew enough about the election system Ocelot II Dec 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author catbyte Dec 2022 #14
Exactly. He is not smart or well educated. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #15
Should say that he was the messenger ToxMarz Dec 2022 #17
You first need brains. His are missing or have been cooked on coke. Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #19
Exactly,just parroting something he heard. grantcart Dec 2022 #23
He doesn't think like this. Poorly written post. It began long before him . Grins Dec 2022 #30
No Words Profane Enough To Describe This Drugged Up Little Punk Me. Dec 2022 #3
He has a certain dependence Turbineguy Dec 2022 #4
Reality check: not criminal activity. brooklynite Dec 2022 #5
The Mountain of top shelf evidence of criminal intent grows...and grows in the voters minds. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #8
Yeah, the process Junior describes is pretty much legal Fiendish Thingy Dec 2022 #11
At least credit the tweet you're quoting, ffs Rob H. Dec 2022 #26
Pure coincidence; never read that and don't follow either. It's basic logic. brooklynite Dec 2022 #28
Pure coincidence, seriously? Rob H. Dec 2022 #31
So, you're saying that I'm lying? brooklynite Dec 2022 #32
"Why would I feel the need to claim credit for this one?" Rob H. Dec 2022 #33
Great minds think alike. Believe what you want. brooklynite Dec 2022 #34
Dude, even your parenthetical content was identical. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2022 #35
Again, believe what you want. I said I didn't see the tweet. brooklynite Dec 2022 #36
... Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2022 #37
Makes me wonder how many other responses were lifted directly from Twitter, tbh nt Rob H. Dec 2022 #39
he's a man, and someday, he will perish GenXer47 Dec 2022 #6
Is it never going to end? Are we stuck with these leftyladyfrommo Dec 2022 #7
+1 n/t area51 Dec 2022 #21
From his small collection of feeble, coked-up schemes Blue Owl Dec 2022 #9
He is so dumb. I got a contact cocaine high just reading that Walleye Dec 2022 #10
He's not that smart. nt AKwannabe Dec 2022 #12
Huh: According to TPM? GusBob Dec 2022 #13
He even writes like . . . Richard D Dec 2022 #16
Jr is even less original than the Don. This is how mob dons insulate themselves, use someone else Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #18
The same idea came up for FL in 2000, if SCOTUS couldn't steal it fore them. Gore1FL Dec 2022 #20
To your last point, my friend... calimary Dec 2022 #22
Stupid plan, so that makes sense TexasBushwhacker Dec 2022 #24
LHU czarjak Dec 2022 #25
How many in the Republican party were 100% good with this unAmerican shit besides Cokespoon Jr.? Botany Dec 2022 #27
Moral high ground, my ass! 🤣 ShazzieB Dec 2022 #29
He's already been deemed too stupid to prosecute lame54 Dec 2022 #38

Ocelot II

(115,753 posts)
2. I doubt he was clever enough or knew enough about the election system
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 02:57 PM
Dec 2022

to have come up with it originally or that he was able to sit still long enough to work it out, with all that cocaine in his system, but once John Eastman sat him down and explained it to him he certainly took off with it.

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Irish_Dem

(47,140 posts)
15. Exactly. He is not smart or well educated.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:48 PM
Dec 2022

What brains he does have are compromised by his constant drug abuse.

No way he came up with this plan on his own.

Grins

(7,218 posts)
30. He doesn't think like this. Poorly written post. It began long before him .
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 05:48 PM
Dec 2022

And by poorly written I mean there are no dates to back it up.

This plan was hatched in the late summer, before the election. John Eastman was in on it then, as was Cleta Mitchell. (Who names their daughter ‘Cleta’?)

If Junior was a messenger, OK. But the brains? Un-possible.

brooklynite

(94,610 posts)
5. Reality check: not criminal activity.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:00 PM
Dec 2022

If the State Legislatures have the legal ability to rescind their Electoral Vote allocation (subject to State Constitutions) then advocating for it isn't a crime. If they don't have the legal ability, then advocating for it is meaningless.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,627 posts)
11. Yeah, the process Junior describes is pretty much legal
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:24 PM
Dec 2022

Unlike Eastman/Clark/Ginni’s scheme to submit slates of fraudulent electors not certified by any state official or body (technically, the ECA states the electors must be appointed by the governor, not, as Junior suggests, the state legislatures).

brooklynite

(94,610 posts)
28. Pure coincidence; never read that and don't follow either. It's basic logic.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 05:22 PM
Dec 2022

FWIW I've said the same thing in response to demands to prosecute members of Congress based on their votes against certifying the Electoral College certificates.

Rob H.

(5,352 posts)
31. Pure coincidence, seriously?
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 10:19 AM
Dec 2022

The only words that are different are “not ciminal activity” and the tweet ended with emojis that you didn’t use. Literally everything else, including the punctuation and capitalization, is exactly the same.

Come on, man.

brooklynite

(94,610 posts)
32. So, you're saying that I'm lying?
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 10:25 AM
Dec 2022

If you read back, you'll see I've been happy to post Tweets from others (to the annoyance of the "why do people post Tweets?" crowd). Why would I feel the need to claim credit for this one?

Rob H.

(5,352 posts)
33. "Why would I feel the need to claim credit for this one?"
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 10:31 AM
Dec 2022

I don’t know, why would you? Again, your post and the tweet minus a few words and two emojis ARE EXACTLY THE SAME, including capitalization, punctuation, and phrasing. You and others can take from that observation what you will.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,925 posts)
35. Dude, even your parenthetical content was identical.
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:08 PM
Dec 2022

A middle school kid wouldn't get away with that in an essay.

brooklynite

(94,610 posts)
36. Again, believe what you want. I said I didn't see the tweet.
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:19 PM
Dec 2022

If it troubles you this much, I suggest you block me so you don't have to read my posts.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,925 posts)
37. ...
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 02:26 PM
Dec 2022


And why would I block you and miss the entertainment of you saying you didn't copy and paste that tweet?

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
10. He is so dumb. I got a contact cocaine high just reading that
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:11 PM
Dec 2022

Doesn’t he realize that Trump won North Carolina. Doesn’t he realize that his daddy still isn’t gonna love him. Don’t forget the mom he was raised with lived a good deal of her life under the Soviet system. He’s never had to have a job or apply for any benefits. Of course he doesn’t understand democracy or America

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
13. Huh: According to TPM?
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:41 PM
Dec 2022

Meadows got the idea from A Dick Morris (!!) Interview on Newsmax
In response to the DTj text above, Meadows replied " already on it" or some such things

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,013 posts)
18. Jr is even less original than the Don. This is how mob dons insulate themselves, use someone else
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 04:06 PM
Dec 2022

Junior is about to get thrown under the bus, but is not a strong individual, despite pretending to be macho. He may crack and I'm not just talking about his nose.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
20. The same idea came up for FL in 2000, if SCOTUS couldn't steal it fore them.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 04:29 PM
Dec 2022

It's, tragically, an old idea.

calimary

(81,335 posts)
22. To your last point, my friend...
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 04:43 PM
Dec 2022

The Trumps don’t want power so that they can govern and do things for the American people. The trumps want power so they can rule like kings and do things TO the American people.

Botany

(70,523 posts)
27. How many in the Republican party were 100% good with this unAmerican shit besides Cokespoon Jr.?
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 05:16 PM
Dec 2022

Ron Johnson 100% Good
Chuck Grassley 100% Good "I don't see Vice President Pence being here on 1/6."
Josh Holly 100% Good
Ted Cruz 100% Good
70% of the House GOP 100% Good
and then we have Eastman, Rudy, Meadows, and Peter Navarro w/Eastmen's Green Bay Sweep

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Sweep_(politics)

These mother Fuckers should not be seated in our Congress or walking free.

ShazzieB

(16,431 posts)
29. Moral high ground, my ass! 🤣
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 05:27 PM
Dec 2022
We have operational control Total leverage Moral High Ground

Don Jr. wouldn't know the "moral high ground" if it walked up and punched him in the face!

The word "moral" means about as much to him as it does to his father, which is to say absolutely nothing, zero, zip, nada. The idea of him invoking it is hilarious.
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