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LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 10:46 PM Dec 2022

Just an amazing rescue

Deputies, Fire Notified of Vehicle Over the Side Via iPhone Emergency Satellite Service

This afternoon at approximately 1:55 PM,
@CVLASD
received a call from the Apple emergency satellite service. The informant and another victim had been involved in a single vehicle accident


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on Angeles Forest Hwy near mile marker 18.87, Angeles Forest. Their vehicle had gone off the side of the mountain, approximately 300'. They were in a remote canyon with no cellular phone service. The victims were able to extricate themselves from the car. Using the emergency



satellite service on their iPhone 14, they were able to communicate to a relay center via text. The center contacted our station who dispatched us,
@LACOFD
, patrol units, and
@SEBLASD
Air Rescue 5. The call center gave us an accurate latitude and longitude for the victims. Air




Rescue 5 was able to locate the victims and insert a paramedic. The paramedic learned the patients, a male and female in their 20s, had mild to moderate injuries. The helicopter was able to hoist the victims out of the canyon and transport them to a local area hospital.
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Grins

(7,218 posts)
2. If I was head of Apple's marketing...!
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 12:25 AM
Dec 2022

I’d be pounding this 3x an hour!

I gave up my ROLEX(!) and bought an Apple Watch because I saw where it saved the lives of 2 people in a situation I once had. And it does so much more since I brought it.

Every one should have it or similar, esp. if over 55.

Ford_Prefect

(7,905 posts)
3. As handy as this feature is the upfront cost of an iphone 14 is absurd. I can buy a good set of
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 12:45 AM
Dec 2022

tires for that kind of money, with enough left over for a ski weekend, and still be driving on them when the i-14 is superseded and unsupported... Replaced no doubt by an even more expensive model requiring mortgage payments for reasonable cell and internet service.

While the technology is impressive and useful, cell phone marketing and upselling is a scandal worthy of a Congressional investigation. The pricing reminds me of my Mom's experiences shopping for a new car.

3Hotdogs

(12,393 posts)
4. for a couple'a hundred, you can go to R.E.I. and buy a satellite emergency beacon.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 12:53 AM
Dec 2022

--- does the same thing.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
6. Yea, but do you carry with you every where. Like just driving home from work and happen
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 10:31 AM
Dec 2022

to skid off the side of a road. That is where this shines. A person has the emergency beacon with them wherever they are.

The people that had this accident did not have cell service after the phone detected a crash. The phone notified them to point the phone at a satellite. The phone did the rest.

I was awakened one night when my watch was vibrating because my heart rate had dropped into the low 40's and the phone was counting down before it called the 911 system. But all the racket woke me up and I was able to cancel the call.

Since my PSAP has been upgraded to text calls, the phone would have sent my medical information and location. Before the ambulance rolled they would have known that it was a heart related call. As a side note, due to my county being in the smart911 system, they would have known about my dog and his name, and my cat and that they are overly affectionate.

As an old fart (almost 75) I am loving the new tech.

Ford_Prefect

(7,905 posts)
10. That sounds a pretty good match.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 02:49 PM
Dec 2022

I mostly drive around on paved roads not so far from neighbors. My phone needs are modest: text, voice, and a keypad are enough. I rarely make more than 10 calls a month anyway.

I realize that the higher featured phones have a place and an audience who can afford them.
My objection is that I don't want all that in my phone. I have a good tablet to do all that with, or my laptop. I also don't want the possibility of invasive software tracking my every move and banking transaction.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
11. I think you use the phone more than me. But I like the ecosystem with a smart phone.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 05:51 PM
Dec 2022

I like being at the doctors office and they give me an appointment and I type it in and it is on my computer at home. It reminds me on y watch. Being 75, I need all the help I can get being reminded about crap. I would guess 95% of the contacts in my contacts list are all doctors and clinics.

I stayed with the apple ecosystem because I want the security of it. If I was in my 20's or 30's I would probably be Samsung and not care what they put on it.

It has really given me a sense of security and makes me not feel my age.

Ford_Prefect

(7,905 posts)
12. I have all the respect in the world for features such as those.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 06:09 PM
Dec 2022

I just want a simple phone at a reasonable price for the device and the service. Something which it appears has all but evaporated.

I'm an ex-mechanic and resent spending more for a phone and service plan than my last 4 cars cost.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
13. Yea men too.. I buy old ones. I am running an iPhone 11 Pro now. It replaced my 6S
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 07:27 PM
Dec 2022

during the summer. I do the prepaid plans that do not cost me much at all since I am home most of the time.

I plan on buying an Apple Watch 8 next year when social security goes up. I am at the point where I could use the SPo2 a lot. Apple refurbed has good prices on them and I can get a 2 year warranty on it that will cover a new battery if I need it.

3Hotdogs

(12,393 posts)
15. I have both, the satellite beacon and an iPhone 14 pro Max. I bought the sat unit because I
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 09:06 PM
Dec 2022

am in a hiking club and we go to places where there is no cell service. Sat system is always in my car, in my backpack.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
9. Get a SAT communicator
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:26 PM
Dec 2022

You can buy them on AMAZON. I ride in the mountains. A LOT! Where you may not see a car for hours, is very remote and 99% of the time no cell service. But stunningly beautiful. I carry a SAT communicator at all times. It communicates via text and email not voice. The device was a couple hundred bucks with a small monthly subscription. Like a pre paid cell, $25, $35 and higher, you choose. It has been used once. And it was a life saver.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07X59RH7T?pd_rd_i=B07X59RH7T&pf_rd_p=b000e0a0-9e93-480f-bf78-a83c8136dfcb&pf_rd_r=5A7MBR4NPE105ECGAMWQ&pd_rd_wg=yqZzb&pd_rd_w=jWQw7&pd_rd_r=8fe43f5f-dbf4-475d-a67c-85583b82c7d6

ancianita

(36,106 posts)
5. There's a lot that's been going on with geolocation rescue beacon equipment. And a lot of cost
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 10:01 AM
Dec 2022

on a number of levels.

PLBs Must Be Registered

If you buy a PLB, you’ll be required to register it (free of charge) in the NOAA SARSAT (Search and Rescue Satellite Aided Tracking) database. Your PLB unit’s distress signal is then associated with vital personal information (like name, address, emergency contact phone numbers and medical conditions) that can help speed the response time for your rescuers. Note that you also need to update your data every two years and, if you ever sell or transfer ownership of your PLB, you must report that in this database and the next user is then required to register their personal data.


https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/personal-locator-beacons.html


Additionally, and for many years, of course, any mobile device has been designed to be linked with a tracker, which of which also might exist in many vehicles and can be used to remote disable those vehicles.

This rescue sits in a much larger context of tracking humans, not just saving them.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
8. I don't think so.. The Search and rescue portion of the LEO satellites have been available for
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:23 PM
Dec 2022

quite a while.

In fact, they were the first category of satellites to carry SAR instrument payloads when the idea of Search and Rescue Satellite- Assisted tracking (SARSAT) was implemented back in the early 1980s.

All satellites regardless of their country of origin, can download distress alerts to all partnered LUTs anywhere in the world within range of their signal. There are three types of satellites in the Cospas-Sarsat system – Low-Earth Orbiting Search and Rescue (LEOSAR) satellites; Geostationary Orbiting Search and Rescue (GEOSAR) Satellites; and Medium-Altitude Earth Orbiting Search and Rescue (MEOSAR) Satellites. These satellites perform other tasks including weather and climate monitoring, communications, and navigation.

https://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/search-and-rescue-satellites/

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