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UTUSN

(70,788 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:18 PM Dec 2022

Chris LICHT: "slams 'stunning' left-wing 'vitriol' aimed at him"

When he went from being COLBERT's (Executive?) producer to CNN, some of us/uninformed imagined CNN would be sort of safe, perhaps via having osmosis-swallowed the facile stereotype that it had a Lib slant instead of being down-the-middle, not to mention our assuming that COLBERT is a Lib spokesperson. Then it transpired that the oligarchic new owners (Repuke donors) installed him to make it into Faux-Lite, and indeed he set upon "changes" of firing hosts and reporters who seemed Lib and issued dicta against language and framing that could be construed as Lib.

But the big reveal was that, COLBERT was not his incubator, but rather his being the early producer for SCARBOROUGH in Scabs' vociferous wingnut days, with OLBERMANN informing that LICHT was Scabs' hatchet man, bullying the MSNBC timid boss into getting Lib guests blackballed from Lib hosts' shows, under the threat that Scabs would not show up for work if the purges didn't happen.

And a month or so ago COLBERT told Charlemagne tha God that LICHT is misunderstood, has "only the best of intentions."

By the bye, COLBERT is the best and around here MAHER is dirt, but there are YouTubes of MAHER saying he *hates* COLBERT ("gives the corporate machine what it wants" ) and MAHER guesting on COLBERT with the mutual hostility thick enough to cut, with MAHER telling him, "You probably voted for NIXON", which COLBERT sat through without replying.

*** But in today's LICHT item (original from NYT/paywall), confusion (for me) - so besides making CNN more "hard news," he was hired "to tamp down anti-Trump/left-leaning" but he sees it to be Centrist as "normal" but not "vanilla" and with an "edge." And, reminiscent of MUSK, he wants us to take with us to have conversations but criticizing HIM is "vitriol". He sounds arrogant, like how dare anybody question him who is On High.

That's how some media types sound, like, it's THEIR place to talk down about the news and opinions, how dare us Keyboard Jockeys dare to have access to news that doesn't come from their mouths and dare to consider ourselves equal and most of all to TALK BACK to them? They don't get that Al GORE's internet means INTERACTION, not Moses on the mountain.

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https://nypost.com/2022/12/18/cnn-boss-chris-licht-slams-left-wing-vitriol-aimed-at-him/

CNN boss Chris Licht slams ‘stunning’ left-wing ‘vitriol’ aimed at him

.... Licht was tasked with bringing CNN back to its hard-news roots, to tamp down on anti-Trump, left-leaning punditry, and to cut costs.

He told the Times he thinks of people in the political center as “normal” — but insists appealing to “normal” people doesn’t mean the content should be boring.

“The uninformed vitriol, especially from the left, has been stunning,” Licht, who took over the cable network in May, told The New York Times. “Which proves my point: So much of what passes for news is name-calling, half-truths and desperation.” ....

He told the Times he wants the network to be a place for “rational conversation about polarizing issues.” ....

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Chris LICHT: "slams 'stunning' left-wing 'vitriol' aimed at him" (Original Post) UTUSN Dec 2022 OP
Yes, it's THE LEFT that has been slamming CNN all this time -- LOL! W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #1
Just me or does he have a face that looks like Drumpf's playing cards?! - uh-oh, my bad vitriol UTUSN Dec 2022 #4
Not just you.. he has a face that Cha Dec 2022 #18
Ask the CNN reporters that covered Trump's 'rallies'... Grins Dec 2022 #11
Too bad the MAGA traitors and apparently Licht think that is being unfair to them. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #13
Exactly TheRealNorth Dec 2022 #17
What nerve of a person to think that news organizations should provide the public Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #2
We've been through this a couple or more times before. UTUSN Dec 2022 #5
Yeah, and Christ Light is dead-right to go after his critics who would have the news Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #7
Then I guess we can look forward to him going after Fox News and all his conservative critics, yes? W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #8
Yes, I expect that CNN under Licht's leadership will be tough on FOX and Donald Trump Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #22
No, my point was why is he going after THE LEFT here for attacking him and his network... W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #23
Have you read the comments made on this forum alone? Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #24
Yes, and I have made several of them. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #42
Not "inexplicably." Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #43
It's not a conspiracy theory when we see it happening. W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #44
I defend "truth" and always will. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #45
The 'liberal' media in a nutshell ck4829 Dec 2022 #3
+1 dalton99a Dec 2022 #9
Stupid Bill Maher. Colbert would've been four years old when Nixon ran Walleye Dec 2022 #6
"You probably voted for NIXON", which COLBERT sat through without replying. DeeDeeNY Dec 2022 #10
1972 Sneederbunk Dec 2022 #12
Clips, here: In the Part 1 video, starting at 1:14 & the NIXON barb at 2:00 mark UTUSN Dec 2022 #15
Thx. DeeDeeNY Dec 2022 #16
The only "vitriol' is coming from the right. Initech Dec 2022 #14
+1.. under the guise of Cha Dec 2022 #20
Or both sider bullshit... gldstwmn Dec 2022 #27
Yeah, anything to Cover for Cha Dec 2022 #29
Is that gibberish from the NY Post? Xoan Dec 2022 #19
Meanwhilw, off topic. but Drew Griffin, CNN reporter has died. Pathwalker Dec 2022 #21
No, Maher did not say he "hates" Colbert, said: "We are not friends. ... But the good part of that betsuni Dec 2022 #25
+1 Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #28
Glad to be of service. UTUSN Dec 2022 #31
It would be much better if a bit of it was true. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #33
... betsuni Dec 2022 #40
He ruined what was left of CNN. I don't even watch anymore. gldstwmn Dec 2022 #26
Waaa waaaaa waaaaaaaAAAAAA JanMichael Dec 2022 #30
The charge that "the oligarchic new owners (Repuke donors) installed him to make it into Faux-Lite" Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #32
& my legs will always be mine, would appreciate your leaving us alone. UTUSN Dec 2022 #34
Don't count on it. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #35
I just don't want to hear from you. UTUSN Dec 2022 #36
I hear that this forum has an "ignore" feature. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #37
Forever, although literalness never works: UTUSN Dec 2022 #38
For your enjoyment: Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #39
... betsuni Dec 2022 #41

W_HAMILTON

(7,878 posts)
1. Yes, it's THE LEFT that has been slamming CNN all this time -- LOL!
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:22 PM
Dec 2022

Did he by chance happen to comment on the MAGA traitors that have been shitting on CNN for years now? Or is Licht still too busy kissing rightwing ass in a failed attempt to somehow woo them over from their beloved Fox News?

Cha

(298,042 posts)
18. Not just you.. he has a face that
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 02:51 PM
Dec 2022

that says that & he's a Gaslit Whiner and way to Lose viewers.

Grins

(7,263 posts)
11. Ask the CNN reporters that covered Trump's 'rallies'...
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:41 PM
Dec 2022

…where Trump singled them out, pointed to them, and called them “enemies of the people,” if they should back off covering Trump.

Or the CNN and other reporters roughed up by the “Patriots” on Jan. 6th on the grounds of the Capitol.

Reporting what Trump actually said and did is not bashing Trump; it’s reporting.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
2. What nerve of a person to think that news organizations should provide the public
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:24 PM
Dec 2022

with well-vetted hard news stories that aim at informing people rather than inflaming them.

And to aim for high standards of journalism, instead of bloviating and punditry.

He must be a fascist!

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
7. Yeah, and Christ Light is dead-right to go after his critics who would have the news
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:29 PM
Dec 2022

look like FOX flipped the other way around.

Thank goodness he's pushing back against the extremist bullshit that would mean a death knell for a free press, which is a fundamental part of keeping a liberal democracy.

W_HAMILTON

(7,878 posts)
8. Then I guess we can look forward to him going after Fox News and all his conservative critics, yes?
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:35 PM
Dec 2022

Because you would admit that they have been far bigger critics of CNN through the years than THE LEFT has been, correct?

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
22. Yes, I expect that CNN under Licht's leadership will be tough on FOX and Donald Trump
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 04:36 PM
Dec 2022

and we can see it in real time.

Objective news reporting does not favor MAGAts.

It is far more effective if CNN is seen as a trusted news source rather than as a vehicle for "entertainment-opinion" television with an overt bias. 100%

W_HAMILTON

(7,878 posts)
23. No, my point was why is he going after THE LEFT here for attacking him and his network...
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 04:48 PM
Dec 2022

...when it has actually been THE RIGHT attacking CNN for years now.

Was it "objective" for him to go after THE LEFT here? And where has his attacks been on the right, who have said far worse things about CNN for far longer than anyone on THE LEFT?

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
24. Have you read the comments made on this forum alone?
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 04:57 PM
Dec 2022

Since Licht was named the new head of CNN there was an initial (false) claim made by a far-right source (The Free Beacon) that suggested that Licht intended to turn CNN into a conservative news network.

That false story was picked up by a reporter at the Daily Beast (Lachlan Cartwright) who amplified the fake news. From there it was further amplified by an unvetted story on Daily Kos, and then it went "viral."

Including here on DU. Not a bit of truth to it. But CNN was branded here as the Cable Nazi Network.

He is right to push back and his objective to restore the journalistic integrity of CNN is a good one. Liberals should be applauding this praise-worthy goal.

Liberal democracies depend on having an educated citizenry and a free press that strives to do excellent hard hitting journalism, while aiming to be fair and objective.

The opposite of emulating the tactics of FOX "News."



W_HAMILTON

(7,878 posts)
42. Yes, and I have made several of them.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 01:00 PM
Dec 2022

And not one of them -- or mine -- come close to the actual vitriol that has been spewed at CNN by right-wingers for YEARS.

And we have ample evidence of the rightward shift of this new CNN. Including this particular evidence point, where Licht inexplicably attacks those on THE LEFT after those on THE RIGHT have attacked CNN for years and are still doing so, with much more hate and vitriol.

Journalistic integrity is a good goal to strive for. This new CNN has not done that. Licht, attacking his critics -- only those on THE LEFT, it appears -- is also not indicative of journalistic integrity. It is just yet another data point of this man bending over backwards to appease right-wing fascists, presumably under the idiotic belief that doing so will somehow win over conservative viewers. It won't, but it will lose what viewers they did have -- as the precipitous drop in ratings CNN has experienced under Licht has shown.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
43. Not "inexplicably."
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 01:08 PM
Dec 2022

Licht has been smeared with outright lies and "invented quotes" since he took the helm at CNN.

The conspiracy theory about him was originated on the ultra-right, but it has regrettably been perpetuated and turned viral by some on the left and far-left.

That's a problem.

Liberals should not allow their online communities to be overtaken by bogus conspiracy theories.

Licht is not "bending over backwards to appease right-wing fascists." That is an outright lie and any who actually tunes into CNN knows it is malarkey.

W_HAMILTON

(7,878 posts)
44. It's not a conspiracy theory when we see it happening.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 01:16 PM
Dec 2022

I know you are just determined to defend this narrative till your last breath, but we can see the changes being made. We can see Licht going after THE LEFT for attacks on him while he remained silent on all the hate thrown his network's way for years from the right, including now.

He has bent over backwards to appease fascists and they still hate his network like they always have.

And I did tune into CNN. More often than MSNBC, actually. And then I stopped because I saw the terrible direction Licht was turning the network. And I do not plan to tune back in anytime soon, probably not as long as Licht as at the helm or until he disavows his current actions up to this point and stops trying to kowtow to win over the fascist viewership. And, judging from his disastrous ratings, lots of people from THE LEFT like me are feeling the same way. And, gee, what a big surprise that no one from the rightwing has jumped ship to reward Licht's kissing their ass! Who could have predicted that?! (Spoiler alert: everyone)

And guess what? Objective reporting would be even more damning to this rightwing strain of fascists than whatever you call CNN's reporting before this. Give me British reporting or Canadian reporting on U.S. matters over Licht's CNN branding of """objective news""" any day.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
45. I defend "truth" and always will.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 01:19 PM
Dec 2022

This is not the Twilight Zone.

We do agree on one point: Hard-hitting objective reporting be even more damning to this rightwing strain of fascists than whatever I'd call CNN's reporting before this.

Progress.

ck4829

(35,096 posts)
3. The 'liberal' media in a nutshell
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:25 PM
Dec 2022

Right-wing: "Rope. Tree. Journalist." "Maybe Putin has the right idea" "FAKE NEWS, YOU'RE ALL FAKE NEWS"
Media: Why can't we work together, here's some free coverage

Left-wing, actually center-left: "Got a question about your interview of a person who thinks the Constitution should be suspended with no follow-up questions"
Media: NOW LISTEN HERE YOU LITTLE SOBS!

https://www.google.com/search?q=medical+bills+in+other+countries

https://www.bing.com/search?q=medical+bills+in+other+countries

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=medical+bills+in+other+countries&t=ha&va=j&ia=web

DeeDeeNY

(3,357 posts)
10. "You probably voted for NIXON", which COLBERT sat through without replying.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:37 PM
Dec 2022

the implication here is that Colbert could have voted for Nixon, which is impossible.
The last time Nixon ran for President was 1968, when Colbert was 4 years old.

Initech

(100,145 posts)
14. The only "vitriol' is coming from the right.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 01:47 PM
Dec 2022

So kindly sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up and stop playing the victim card. You brought this on yourself. No one should be catering to neo Nazis and far right conspiracy theorists.

Pathwalker

(6,600 posts)
21. Meanwhilw, off topic. but Drew Griffin, CNN reporter has died.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 04:24 PM
Dec 2022

Died of cancer, at 60, per Yahoo news.

betsuni

(25,803 posts)
25. No, Maher did not say he "hates" Colbert, said: "We are not friends. ... But the good part of that
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 07:39 PM
Dec 2022

is we don't hide it. He doesn't like me and I don't like him." Then goes on to praise Colbert's Republican character performance at the Correspondents Dinner as not only "comedically brilliant" but having the "guts" to do it right in front of Bush, it was landing a "triple axle." Said they got off on the wrong foot and "Maybe we'll become friends one day," how diversity is good. There was no "hate" there. (By the way, I dislike the many jokes about Biden's age Colbert does while Maher has been against this kind of agism, very supportive of Biden.)

The Nixon comment was directed at the Colbert Republican character. The context was that the audience laughed when Maher mentioned Republicans, "Even the name gets a laugh," and then referenced Colbert's old character when Colbert did a loud fake laugh: "You used to be a Republican." Colbert said "I don't know what you're talking about. I've always worked here." Maher brought up Vietnam and if Colbert remembered body counts. Colbert pretended to be much too young to remember: "Who is this Nixon you speak of, Bill?" That's when Maher said "Probably a guy you voted for" because Colbert's Republican character would have and he was pretending to not be old enough to remember Nixon. This is called "joking."

It would be nice if people reading things like someone saying they hate Colbert and that he probably voted for Nixon please please please check first before believing it.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
26. He ruined what was left of CNN. I don't even watch anymore.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 07:48 PM
Dec 2022

I imagine in a few years there will be another regime change. Zucker foisted Trump upon us but he also had some great programming with Anthony Bourdain, Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Brooke Baldwin, Stanley Tucci and so many others. I am certainly going to miss Brooke and Don on NYE. It's not New Year's Eve without Drunk Don Lemon.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
32. The charge that "the oligarchic new owners (Repuke donors) installed him to make it into Faux-Lite"
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 10:29 PM
Dec 2022

is total bullshit.

In fact, Licht was hired by Discovery Warner CEO David Zaslav who is a Democrat with a history of donating to Democrats.

Saying Licht was hired "to tamp down anti-Trump/left-leaning" news coverage is "quoting" the very-low-credibility right-wing tabloid the NY Post, who invented this particular lie. Do we have rules about spreading right-wing bullshit?

That is NOT why Licht was hired and he's always called out these sorts of lies as "bullshit."

Yet the right-wing originated conspiracy somehow has "legs" here on DU, despite it being totally and utterly false.

Not a good look.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
35. Don't count on it.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 11:17 PM
Dec 2022

Right-wing originated conspiracy theories need to be countered.

Not doing that is unhealthy for a liberal democracy and for the Democratic Party.

Sorry.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
37. I hear that this forum has an "ignore" feature.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 11:24 PM
Dec 2022

I don't particularly enjoy seeing videos posted here of the vile anti-LGBTQ bigot George Galloway, who never met a dictator he didn't like and is a notorious anti-Semite.

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