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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJamie Raskin ...... dropping the hammer right now.
"Where the foot soldiers go to jail but the master minds do not."
Referrals on 4 charges!
intrepidity
(7,307 posts)mobeau69
(11,147 posts)TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Reader Rabbit
(2,624 posts)By the ethics committee?
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,032 posts)Biggs
Jordan
McCarthy
and Perry
Sounds like the ethics referral is solely based on refusing subpoenas.
lindysalsagal
(20,695 posts)wnylib
(21,505 posts)named the 4 people. I only remember the names of 3 of them, Giuliani, Eastman, and Meadows.
DET
(1,323 posts)What a historic moment. Four referrals! And referrals for members of Congress for ignoring subpoenas. Raskin has such a commanding presence. He would make a great President (if the opportunity presented itself).
usaf-vet
(6,189 posts)I would love a chance to vote for him in a national election.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)onecaliberal
(32,873 posts)getagrip_already
(14,768 posts)Barring that, there would likely be no indication anything comes of it. But because they involve tfg and his band f elites, it would go to smith if any action was investigated.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Cases of a lifetime!
Give him till March. 😉
Skittles
(153,169 posts)yes indeed
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,737 posts)This guy doesn't play, a real attack dog! His background as a prosecutor at The Hague was all I needed to know.
ShazzieB
(16,435 posts)Garland has given him the authority to act as he sees fit. I see no reason to assume he doesn't mean to use it.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)drray23
(7,634 posts)Garland has the final say on whether or not to indict. Smith can conduct the investigation as he sees fit.
ShazzieB
(16,435 posts)Later, he added the following: "As special counsel, he will exercise independent prosecutorial judgment to decide whether charges should be brought."
The full text of Garland's statement is available in multiple sources. I'm quoting from this source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/11/18/transcript-merrick-garland-jack-smith-special-prosecutor/10728962002/
It sounds to me like Smith has been given a great deal of independence, including the authority to prosecute as he sees fit. Nowhere does Garland say Smith won't be able to prosecute someone without Garland's approval, and saying he will "exercise independent prosecutorial judgment to decide whether charges should be brought" indicates the opposite to me.
ananda
(28,868 posts)!!!
RobertDevereaux
(1,857 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,024 posts)That would be awesome!
RobertDevereaux
(1,857 posts)calimary
(81,346 posts)Paper Roses
(7,473 posts)calimary
(81,346 posts)And FOUR counts. Not three as many were expecting!
onetexan
(13,044 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,461 posts)HUAJIAO
(2,391 posts)70sEraVet
(3,505 posts)Hard hat area!!!
Mahler originally wrote 3 blows, but then later eliminated the third one. But ya still get to do it twice.
republianmushroom
(13,622 posts)22 months and counting
electric_blue68
(14,915 posts)Even if we don't know if the DOJ will indict (I still believe they might)...
These J6 Referral were Critical as:
A Statement of Truth,
A Declaration of Consequences,
To be Etched in History.
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