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Jamie Raskin ...... dropping the hammer right now. (Original Post) Botany Dec 2022 OP
Hope the news horns blare it loudly nt intrepidity Dec 2022 #1
One more than expected. mobeau69 Dec 2022 #2
BOOM!!! TigressDem Dec 2022 #3
Are they gonna name the four individuals to be sanctioned? Reader Rabbit Dec 2022 #4
I believe I saw... AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2022 #8
I wanted Godard on that list. lindysalsagal Dec 2022 #33
A PBS correspondent read the preliminary report and wnylib Dec 2022 #21
Love Jamie Raskin DET Dec 2022 #5
I hope Jamie Raskin gets in the queue for a POTUS run in 2028, if not 2024. usaf-vet Dec 2022 #29
Now the question is, will Merrick Garland actually do anything with these referrals? Marius25 Dec 2022 #6
Don't hold your breath. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #9
only indication would be if smith expanded his scope..... getagrip_already Dec 2022 #10
yes, lots of barking...will there be actual bites Skittles Dec 2022 #11
I'll bet SC Smith is drooling! SheltieLover Dec 2022 #12
I do have some confidence in HIM Skittles Dec 2022 #13
I do, too! SheltieLover Dec 2022 #16
I, as well! colorado_ufo Dec 2022 #17
Garland? It's up to Jack Smith now! ShazzieB Dec 2022 #14
I believe SC Smith means to clean house! SheltieLover Dec 2022 #18
not exactly. drray23 Dec 2022 #27
When Garland announced Smith's appointment, he said the following: ShazzieB Dec 2022 #36
But Jack Smith might! ananda Dec 2022 #28
Raskin is a powerhouse! RobertDevereaux Dec 2022 #7
He would make an excellent president, as well as being our first Jewish president. Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #22
AGREED RobertDevereaux Dec 2022 #23
If he were to run, I'd be delighted to support him! calimary Dec 2022 #24
Agree, a man of conviction and courage. n/t Paper Roses Dec 2022 #30
DAAAAAAAAAYUM!!!!! calimary Dec 2022 #15
who are the "...and others"? onetexan Dec 2022 #19
Kick and rec all Trump criminal referral threads. Kingofalldems Dec 2022 #20
Hammer blows in Mahler 6th Symphony.. Enjoy !!! HUAJIAO Dec 2022 #25
Wow! I was impressed by the power of those 'hammerers', but when I saw the last one ..... 70sEraVet Dec 2022 #34
LOL !! HUAJIAO Dec 2022 #35
like it republianmushroom Dec 2022 #26
K&R Blue Owl Dec 2022 #31
As he read the first charge, and it appeared on their screen I teared up... electric_blue68 Dec 2022 #32

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,032 posts)
8. I believe I saw...
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 03:29 PM
Dec 2022

Biggs
Jordan
McCarthy
and Perry

Sounds like the ethics referral is solely based on refusing subpoenas.

wnylib

(21,505 posts)
21. A PBS correspondent read the preliminary report and
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 04:09 PM
Dec 2022

named the 4 people. I only remember the names of 3 of them, Giuliani, Eastman, and Meadows.

DET

(1,323 posts)
5. Love Jamie Raskin
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 03:17 PM
Dec 2022

What a historic moment. Four referrals! And referrals for members of Congress for ignoring subpoenas. Raskin has such a commanding presence. He would make a great President (if the opportunity presented itself).

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
29. I hope Jamie Raskin gets in the queue for a POTUS run in 2028, if not 2024.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 05:29 PM
Dec 2022

I would love a chance to vote for him in a national election.

getagrip_already

(14,768 posts)
10. only indication would be if smith expanded his scope.....
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 03:32 PM
Dec 2022

Barring that, there would likely be no indication anything comes of it. But because they involve tfg and his band f elites, it would go to smith if any action was investigated.

colorado_ufo

(5,737 posts)
17. I, as well!
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 04:02 PM
Dec 2022

This guy doesn't play, a real attack dog! His background as a prosecutor at The Hague was all I needed to know.

ShazzieB

(16,435 posts)
14. Garland? It's up to Jack Smith now!
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 03:57 PM
Dec 2022

Garland has given him the authority to act as he sees fit. I see no reason to assume he doesn't mean to use it.

drray23

(7,634 posts)
27. not exactly.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 05:12 PM
Dec 2022

Garland has the final say on whether or not to indict. Smith can conduct the investigation as he sees fit.

ShazzieB

(16,435 posts)
36. When Garland announced Smith's appointment, he said the following:
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 09:04 PM
Dec 2022
"Today, I signed an order appointing Jack Smith to serve as special counsel. The order authorizes him to continue the ongoing investigation into both of the matters that I have just described and to prosecute any federal crimes that may arise from those investigations."

Later, he added the following: "As special counsel, he will exercise independent prosecutorial judgment to decide whether charges should be brought."


The full text of Garland's statement is available in multiple sources. I'm quoting from this source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/11/18/transcript-merrick-garland-jack-smith-special-prosecutor/10728962002/

It sounds to me like Smith has been given a great deal of independence, including the authority to prosecute as he sees fit. Nowhere does Garland say Smith won't be able to prosecute someone without Garland's approval, and saying he will "exercise independent prosecutorial judgment to decide whether charges should be brought" indicates the opposite to me.

Lonestarblue

(10,024 posts)
22. He would make an excellent president, as well as being our first Jewish president.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 04:20 PM
Dec 2022

That would be awesome!

70sEraVet

(3,505 posts)
34. Wow! I was impressed by the power of those 'hammerers', but when I saw the last one .....
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 08:42 PM
Dec 2022

Hard hat area!!!

HUAJIAO

(2,391 posts)
35. LOL !!
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 08:43 PM
Dec 2022

Mahler originally wrote 3 blows, but then later eliminated the third one. But ya still get to do it twice.




electric_blue68

(14,915 posts)
32. As he read the first charge, and it appeared on their screen I teared up...
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 07:22 PM
Dec 2022

Even if we don't know if the DOJ will indict (I still believe they might)...

These J6 Referral were Critical as:
A Statement of Truth,
A Declaration of Consequences,
To be Etched in History.
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