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CTyankee

(67,759 posts)
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 11:46 AM Dec 2022

In my mailbox today, a reprint from an earlier NewYorker article on LBJ's swearing in on Air Force I

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/04/02/the-transition#intcid=_the-new-yorker-bottom-recirc_c1840977-75b6-4431-8b4f-ba86dec881b9_user-activetime-evergreen

A revisit, for those of us old enough to remember, to that fateful day when JFK was killed and the firsthand report of what ensued on Air Force One.

I recall getting a call from my then husband at work, telling me to turn on the TV, "The President has been shot."

As a native Texan, and born and raised in Dallas, I was beyond horrified.
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In my mailbox today, a reprint from an earlier NewYorker article on LBJ's swearing in on Air Force I (Original Post) CTyankee Dec 2022 OP
What a wrenching, horrid day that was.. whathehell Dec 2022 #1
Most everyone remembers where they were that day..... secondwind Dec 2022 #2
I was in high school, third year, and the principal made the rounds... TreasonousBastard Dec 2022 #3
I was in junior high. Heard it in the hallway standing by the lockers, thought it was a rumor Walleye Dec 2022 #5
At first, I truly thought that "shots rang out" meant JFK had maybe been grazed by a bullet. CTyankee Dec 2022 #4
I was in junior high central scrutinizer Dec 2022 #6
I've read the four volumes of Caro's bio of Johnson shrike3 Dec 2022 #7
Thanks for identifying its actual source for me. CTyankee Dec 2022 #9
Maybe a little of both? Although I would come down on the side of history writing. shrike3 Dec 2022 #10
Many years ago I worked on Capitol Hill, in the D.C. office of the ACLU. I attended lots of meetings CTyankee Dec 2022 #12
I think you would love Caro's bio of LBJ. shrike3 Dec 2022 #15
well, maybe. By the time I left D.C. and moved to New Haven I had had it with D.C.'s tiresome CTyankee Dec 2022 #19
I can see that, yes. Politics is, well, politics. shrike3 Dec 2022 #20
Explains "The Wink" Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #8
That was LBJ shrike3 Dec 2022 #11
The Boeing 707 that served as Air Force One back then Aristus Dec 2022 #13
Wow. We'll have to go there. n/t shrike3 Dec 2022 #16
The limousine is in Dearborn, Michigan. roamer65 Dec 2022 #18
Fourth grade, teacher called out. Returns looking ashened. Told us. Then PA announcement... electric_blue68 Dec 2022 #14
Hey, hey LBJ...how many kids did you kill today? roamer65 Dec 2022 #17
The song actually tortured him, if Caro's bio is to be believed. shrike3 Dec 2022 #21
I recall it as a taunt, not a song. At any rate, it was needed. He needed to be jolted out of any CTyankee Dec 2022 #22
He called it a song. But you're right, he did need to be tormented. shrike3 Dec 2022 #23

whathehell

(30,335 posts)
1. What a wrenching, horrid day that was..
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 11:51 AM
Dec 2022

I recall reading of studies showng that children as young as years old remembered it.

I remember it well..I was just shy of my 13th birthday...Shock, tears, disbelief for days, weeks, years.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. Most everyone remembers where they were that day.....
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 11:56 AM
Dec 2022

I was at work, a small law firm, it hit us like a thunderbolt. The place was silent, we turned on a radio and just listened. Folks crying everywhere. 😞

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. I was in high school, third year, and the principal made the rounds...
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:04 PM
Dec 2022

telling each class.

We were all in shock

Walleye

(43,759 posts)
5. I was in junior high. Heard it in the hallway standing by the lockers, thought it was a rumor
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:06 PM
Dec 2022

Of course when we got in class we found out the truth

CTyankee

(67,759 posts)
4. At first, I truly thought that "shots rang out" meant JFK had maybe been grazed by a bullet.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:05 PM
Dec 2022

Nobody could get close enough to actually hurt (much less kill) our president.

central scrutinizer

(12,648 posts)
6. I was in junior high
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:35 PM
Dec 2022

My local newspaper was an afternoon daily then and was able to get a brief story with a banner headline out. When I got home after school I did my paper route at record speed. It seemed the only thing I could do as a response.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
7. I've read the four volumes of Caro's bio of Johnson
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:50 PM
Dec 2022

I thought this sounded familiar; it's an excerpt. Compelling writing.

CTyankee

(67,759 posts)
9. Thanks for identifying its actual source for me.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:52 PM
Dec 2022

Would you call this journalism or history writing?

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
10. Maybe a little of both? Although I would come down on the side of history writing.
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 01:02 PM
Dec 2022

The first two volumes of Johnson's biography are amazing. The third, Master of the Senate, was a little arcane, since it by necessity had to go into great detail as to the inner workings of the Senate. The excerpt published here was by far the most riveting part of the fourth volume.

CTyankee

(67,759 posts)
12. Many years ago I worked on Capitol Hill, in the D.C. office of the ACLU. I attended lots of meetings
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 04:16 PM
Dec 2022

of Judiciary Committee and subcommittees for my job. I learned a lot about the workings of the
House and the Senate. I'm not a lawyer, however.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
15. I think you would love Caro's bio of LBJ.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 12:43 AM
Dec 2022

It's a daunting read. Well worth it, but still daunting.

CTyankee

(67,759 posts)
19. well, maybe. By the time I left D.C. and moved to New Haven I had had it with D.C.'s tiresome
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 11:10 AM
Dec 2022

political infighting and long past my ties to my Dallas (and all of Texas) roots. That's why I'm a CT yankee now!

Kid Berwyn

(22,779 posts)
8. Explains "The Wink"
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 12:51 PM
Dec 2022


From Cato’s New Yorker article:

Reynolds was there because the Rules Committee had begun investigating a scandal revolving around John-son’s protégé Robert G. (Bobby) Baker, whom Johnson, during his years as Senate Majority Leader, had made Secretary for the Majority. During the preceding two months, the scandal had been escalating week by week. In a desperate attempt to head off the investigation, Baker had resigned (he later said that if he had talked “Johnson might have incurred a mortal wound by these revelations. They could have . . . driven him from office”), but the resignation had only ignited a media firestorm that broke on newspaper front pages across the country and in sensational cover stories in major news magazines. The scandal had thus far concentrated on the man known in Washington as “Little Lyndon,” but the stories were beginning to focus more and more on Johnson himself. On the Monday of the week that Kennedy left for Texas, a lengthy and detailed article had appeared in Life—“scandal grows and grows in washington,” based on the work of a nine-member investigating team headed by a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter, William G. Lambert. It had gone beyond a recounting of Baker’s personal financial saga to make clear that, in distributing campaign contributions and in his other Senate activities, Baker had simply been “Lyndon’s bluntest instrument in running the show.” And the focus was about to sharpen that morning. Reynolds, who was Baker’s former business partner, had come to Room 312 to tell the Senate investigators about a number of Baker’s activities, one of which—the purchase of television advertising time and an expensive stereo set, in return for the writing of an insurance policy—Baker himself later called “a kickback pure and simple,” to Johnson. On the advice of his attorney, Reynolds had brought with him documents—invoices and cancelled checks—that he said would prove that assertion. Another of Baker’s activities that Reynolds began describing that morning would also turn out to be related to Johnson: an overpayment by Matthew McCloskey, a contractor and major Democratic funder, for a performance bond—an overpayment of a hundred and nine thousand dollars for a bond that had cost only seventy-three thousand dollars, with twenty-five thousand dollars of that overpayment, Reynolds later said, going to “Mr. Johnson’s campaign.”
 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
11. That was LBJ
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 01:06 PM
Dec 2022

After reading his bio (penned by the author of this article), I began to view him as the Devil doing God's work. He could be -- awful.

Poor Jackie, just standing there.

Aristus

(71,590 posts)
13. The Boeing 707 that served as Air Force One back then
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 04:33 PM
Dec 2022

is now on display at the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force, near Dayton, Ohio.

The plane is configured for a walk-through tour. I stood right where LBJ and Jackie stood while he took the oath of office. I also got to see how the four rear rows of seats were removed in order to accommodate JFK's coffin.

electric_blue68

(25,718 posts)
14. Fourth grade, teacher called out. Returns looking ashened. Told us. Then PA announcement...
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 04:45 PM
Dec 2022

at 10 knew it was bad. Learned more of why years on.


Bobby Baker... Yeah, name is familiar but I was too young to follow the story back then.

roamer65

(37,813 posts)
17. Hey, hey LBJ...how many kids did you kill today?
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:33 AM
Dec 2022

That man was a double-edged sword, for sure.

I will always have my suspicions of him surrounding President Kennedy’s killing.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
21. The song actually tortured him, if Caro's bio is to be believed.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 01:13 PM
Dec 2022

"That song," he said. He must have had a conscience somewhere. There are a few contemporary politicians who I think would not be bothered by that song.

CTyankee

(67,759 posts)
22. I recall it as a taunt, not a song. At any rate, it was needed. He needed to be jolted out of any
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 03:02 PM
Dec 2022

comfort zone he had with that war. I joined the antiwar movement when my son was 3 years old and I feared we would be in Indochina, like the French before us, would be and my son would be drafted and sent off to die in an unjust war.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
23. He called it a song. But you're right, he did need to be tormented.
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 02:17 PM
Dec 2022

As I said in an above post, there are politicians then and today which would not have been bothered by it.

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