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MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace dedicated her Boxing Day show to the shocking revelations from this year that Russia's Vladimir Putin was working with Donald Trump's allies because he thought he could take pieces of eastern Ukraine, specifically Mariupol, without waging his invasion.
Writing before the mid-term election, New York Times reporter Jim Rutenberg explained that hundreds of documents he's sifted through, in addition to former Robert Mueller prosecutor Andrew Weissmann's details, revealed enough to show what Putin was after when he worked to swing the 2016 election for Trump.
"What Weissman found was all along Paul Manafort and others were avoiding talking about the meeting at the cigar bar I just mentioned or the idea of the Mariupol plan, and it was concealed from them, they felt when Weissman gets new e-mails and information and sees things have been left out what he has learned so far from Mr. Manafort, who was speaking with prosecutors as they talked about a possible cooperation deal, and he said, what are they hide here?" asked Rutenberg. "Well, here's what they are hiding well, what they are talking about is the east of Ukraine, and once you realize how important the east of Ukraine is to Putin, and that there was a Russian meddling operation to affect social media and disrupt American politics, it all came together for Mr. Weissman."
It prompted Wallace to wonder if the Manafort pardon was still part of all of that. Trump more recently claimed on his social media site that if he had been president the war with Ukraine wouldn't have happened. Wallace asked if that is because Trump would have handed Mariupol over to Putin as the Russian leader assumed.
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OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)Trump=Putin were innit to winit.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Had he been re-elected. As well as the Baltic countries. Trump might have agreed to split Poland, though.
Waterguy
(237 posts)More than obvious Putin wanted Trump.
Why did Trump want Putin, did Trump want or need Putin?
I think Putin knew how Trump would operate somehow.
But then, Trump is first and most a ---path/narcissist
Was Trump just looking for whatever quick opportunity
to make him look good, and it just didn't matter where it
came from?
In this big pile of Elephant poop - US foreign, we got issues and have for a long time...
I'm just saying. (that's me not Trump)
NATO expansion - depends on how the truth comes out regarding Treaties that exist in writing.
The US didn't step in from the beginning prior to the Russian aggression on Ukraine and make a strong effort to avoid conflict.
If Trump was president - that would still have been true, file that under incompetence but then it may have grown worse, tough to say
what that nut would've done
niyad
(113,342 posts)has been a russian asset since the mid '80's. putler understands him very well indeed.
republianmushroom
(13,616 posts)trump did do it by himself. There has to be more republicans (allies) involved.
"...in addition to former Robert Mueller prosecutor Andrew Weissmann's details, revealed enough to show what Putin was after when he worked to swing the 2016 election for Trump."
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