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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChina estimates CoVID infection rate is now around 37 million per day.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-23/china-estimates-covid-surge-is-infecting-37-million-people-a-dayLooks like its paywalled, but enuff can be gleaned from the readable section.
Tetrachloride
(7,847 posts)1. it has mutated
2. a worse mutation is in the realm of possibility
3. who is vaccinated properly
cbabe
(3,548 posts)Mainland Chinese vaccine tourists flock to Macau for mRNA Covid jabs
Mainland Chinese eager to secure western messenger RNA vaccines rather than domestic jabs are flocking to Macau, where they have booked out the only hospital offering the inoculations to tourists.
Beijing has not approved any foreign Covid-19 vaccines for use by its citizens, instead relying on jabs from Chinese groups Sinovac and Sinopharm. Analysts have said these provide lower levels of immunity than western alternatives, which use mRNA technology.
But an abrupt U-turn by Beijing this month on its former zero-Covid policy of containing the disease has sparked an explosion of cases and prompted a surge in the number of mainlanders seeking mRNA jabs in Macau. The former Portuguese colony and special administrative region is the only place outside mainland China where the countrys citizens can travel without having to quarantine on return.
A Lancet study from Singapore published this month found individuals who received three doses of the Sinovac or Sinopharm jabs, which are based on older technology that uses the inactivated virus to elicit an immune response, were nearly twice as likely to develop severe Covid as people who received three mRNA jabs. Those with the Chinese shots were also 50 per cent more likely to be hospitalised.
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(China not allowing western vaccines in the country. Still?)
roamer65
(36,745 posts)No export of them to China period.
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)Whatever mutations are created because of the inadequate vaccinations aren't going to stay in China. If they want the vaccines, it is to our benefit to export them there.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)But let the people revolt and overthrow the CCP if they want them. This was a decision of the CCP and the party will definitely not reverse it.
There will be no mRNA vaccines in China, due to the CCP.
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)Refusing to export effective tools to control the spread will only make the problem worse.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)They refused to import them.
If asked, western governments would export them despite my opinion.
At this point, the Chinese people do not have the 3 months it would take to build immunity via mRNA vaccine. The fault of this lies with the CCP.
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)You did.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Simply to respect their rejection of it and to allocate supplies to other nations who WILL use it and have ample ramp up time.
At this point, China is fucked and yes there will be new strains all thanks to the CCP for having no exit strategy for zero CoVID.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Largely because they would not use the mrna vaccines. I think we better be prepared for a worse strain, I hope not.
doc03
(35,345 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Report I heard is that the average age of patients being see in China is now in their 70s.