So, according to this, Motherfucker could have a pocket pardon

[Aviation Pro]

To absolve hisself of any crime he may have committed while doing a cobbler squat as President.

Good luck with that, fuckface, I believe that if a pardon was issued it needs to be recorded somewhere at DoJ. Also, why is the walking embodiment of smegma whining so hard if he has one, shouldn't he just plant one of those stupid sneers on his face knowing he's got a "get out of jail free" card where his little dick is?

Link.

Ever since Trump’s special master was dismissed from the Mar-a-Lago investigation, federal investigators have been able to go through the documents found on Trump’s estate with no further interference.

Presidential Pocket Pardon
Because of the turn the investigation has taken, many are wondering if Trump will attempt to pardon himself from any wrongdoing using a pocket pardon.

Democratic activist Andrew Wortman placed his bets on Twitter as to whether or not Trump will attempt to wield this power.

“Going on record now and saying there is at least a 99 percent chance that Trump issued himself a pardon while he was still in office that he plans to pull out of his pocket and try to use as an actual get-out-of-jail-free card the moment he’s finally indicted/arrested (It will not work).”

[mopinko]

1. he can try.

it def wont work. wouldnt surprise me, tho.

[we can do it]

2. Do you really think someone can pardon themselves?

[Midnight Writer]

32. Do you think a buttload of lawyers can spend years arguing that question in court?

[we can do it]

35. Same answer - no.

[we can do it]

37. Same answer - no.

[SKKY]

3. Isn't it still an open question, from a constitutional standpoint, if POTUS...

...can pardon his/herself??

[Effete Snob]

12. About "open questions"

There are, certainly, questions one can come up with which have not been answered directly by the Supreme Court.

The Obama birthers liked to point out that there is no Supreme Court decision, for example, which defines the meaning of "natural born citizen" in the Article II qualifications for president.

Sometimes the reason why an issue has not come before the Supreme Court is simply that the question has never come up before.

Another reason why things have not come before the Supreme Court is that they are questions so dumb, they are unlikely to come up.

A president pardoning him or herself is, sure, a question that has not come before the Supreme Court in the past. But this is something of a category 2 type of "open question" in that it is basically stupid and a license for the president to behave as a dictator unconstrained by any law or the Constitution itself. The notion that this could be an intended result of the pardon power is just basically silly.

[SKKY]

22. Concur. And I find it hard to believe this isn't something Nixon gave a great...

...deal of thought, and was probably (Or hopefully) told POTUS can't pardon himself. I just ask the question because, if something like this were to come before this Supreme Court, I don't know how many have the confidence they would look at this as you have so eloquently done.

[Autumn]

4. It makes more sense that they were not classified documents because he declassified

them in his mind. While he was taking a shit on his gold toilet. That would be as legal as his so called pocket pardon.

[fightforfreedom]

5. He would have used it already and it would have failed.

[Effete Snob]

6. He hasn't been charged with anything

Used it for what?

[fightforfreedom]

9. Do you really believe Trump is waiting to spring a secret pardon?

[Celerity]

13. There is no reason to be so sure that he will not try it. nt

[Effete Snob]

14. No, I don't

It is a stupid idea on par with the notion that he would have used it already, in the absence of criminal charges.

[fightforfreedom]

21. Stupid idea? We are talking about Trump.

I could see Trump saying, I already pardoned myself before he is charged with anything.

[Maeve]

29. Almost word for word what I was thinking! eom

[Effete Snob]

7. "I believe that if a pardon was issued it needs to be recorded somewhere at DoJ"

Is this a religious belief, or is it based on some actual statute or regulation?

[Aviation Pro]

8. Here you go

https://www.justice.gov/pardon

Like your handle, Kurgan.

[Effete Snob]

16. That is simply a blog of press releases

And it is most certainly not some sort of DoJ database of all the pardons which have been issued.

[Aviation Pro]

20. Here you go (again)

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-donald-j-trump-2017-2021

[BSdetect]

10. Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt but does not help with states?

[onenote]

39. It is not an admission of guilt

Indeed, some pardons are given to correct an improper conviction.

[bucolic_frolic]

11. Rule of jurisprudence, can't judge oneself

[Turbineguy]

15. Actually, this is good

He gets off scot-free and his supporters pay the price.

Then they will all know just how he fucked them.

[EYESORE 9001]

24. Nothing good would come from Cheeto Benito being allowed to give himself a pardon

It would set a very ugly precedent.

[JohnSJ]

17. Even if he did, they wouldn't apply to state charges, or charges after he left office, such as

stealing the classified documents

[Atticus]

18. IF such a document exists and he presents it when WHEN indicted, it should be handled in exactly

same way as we'd handle a Monopoly game's "Get Out of Jail Free!" card: laugh at it while we tighten the cuffs on the SOB.

[lindysalsagal]

19. Congress wouldn't have bothered to investigate if there were

Such a thing. That would mean potus immunity, and they stated many times there is none.

[Ocelot II]

23. I think he'd have tried to use it by now if he'd done it.

[Fiendish Thingy]

25. There is no such thing as a pocket pardon.

Anyone who says so is just trolling for clicks, or is an ignorant fool.

[fightforfreedom]

26. Thank you. A pocket pardon is a fantasy.

[gratuitous]

27. Yes; on a scale of 1 to 10 of things to worry about

This rates a -2.

[tritsofme]

28. Even if such a pardon was valid, it wouldn't help with crimes that occurred after he left office.

Which seems to be the case with the Mar-a-Lago documents.

[MineralMan]

30. No such thing as a "pocket pardon."

Sorry, but this is not going to happen.

[CTyankee]

31. dare i ask what a "cobbler squat" is?

asking for a friend, of course.

[Aviation Pro]

34. A reference to a Better Call Saul episode where Saul is able to convince a jury

That his client likes to take a dump over a peach cobbler.

[former9thward]

33. Total nonsense.

There are no "pocket pardon".

[kentuck]

36. You never know unless you try...

But it will not work if it is challenged.

[allegorical oracle]

38. If TFG wrote up a pardon for himself, it would be a "preemptive pardon" that would have to

anticipate that he was going to be charged with some offense.

"In his final days in office President Richard Nixon pondered the same question. In a brief memorandum, the DOJ concluded that President Nixon could not serve as a judge in his own case, thus rendering a self-pardon off the table for crimes he hadn't been charged with yet.

The question of preemptive pardons, even for people other than the president, is a tricky one as well. University of California law professor Aaron Rappaport argues that there is no way the founders intended the power of the pardon to extend to what are essentially imagined crimes. He says that an 1855 Supreme Court ruling makes clear that a specific offense must be named when granting a pardon."

Thus, if that 1855 ruling holds up, TFG, while still in office, would have had to know the specific future charge that would be levied against him in order to pardon himself.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/legally-weird/can-the-president-pardon-themself/

[onenote]

40. This nonsense again.

How would he establish that he granted this pardon while he was president?