Never forget that, amoung his many sins, the horrors happening to Afghan women

[niyad]

are a result of the F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR** and pompeo handing Afghanistan to the taliban.

My deepest thanks to DU'er Bettie for putting it so succinctly.

[2naSalit]

1. K&R

[secondwind]

2. Frankly, we cannot be blamed for this fiasco

Afghans made their choice, IMHO. And they made it early enough that left the US nothing more than time to get out of Dodge. Quickly. We are lucky we were able to get out roughly 150,000 souls over a 3 week period.

[niyad]

3. The Afghan women did nit, but nice try.

[Hortensis]

7. You mistake, but understandably. Our media ireporting s very heavily

tilted toward feeding our western notions based on our western values.

Afghan culture, including women, is not.

Very few women, percentagewise, intended to get college degrees. Far more did hope to better their lives, and those of their children, by working outside their homes. But that doesn't mean most approved the full extent of what Americans feel are their basic human rights. Reading about what they do want and believe in shows that most do not.

Truth is what it is. By far most really don't admire our culture, or at most want to take a shopping cart approach to it, incorporating a few things into their culture and firmly rejecting all the rest.

[maxsolomon]

4. "Afghans" didn't make a choice for the Taliban.

The Taliban won a guerilla war, abetted by Trump's Doha deal to free 5,000 Talibs, and the fecklessness of the Afghan Military and Govt. The populace had little choice but to accept the return to power of intolerant, ignorant Medievalists.

The Taliban could not be eliminated by the West's strategy. All we bought for our blood and treasure was 20 years of relative freedom for Afghan women.

[SheltieLover]

5. Absolutely!

[GreenWave]

6. Quite obvious when those dickheads in their prime tried to board a taxiing cargo plane.

No women, no children, no elderly among them. Never forget!

[niyad]

9. Exactly.

[Hope22]

8. Yes and thanks to his Supreme Court stacking...

…US women are not far behind them.

[niyad]

10. Sadly true.

[cilla4progress]

11. My Afghan exchange daughter who herself

defected to Canada considers Biden a monster for pulling out.

[Hekate]

14. Inform her who made the agreement that tied Biden's hands. Please.

[cilla4progress]

15. I have.

It's very difficult and complicated.

As you might imagine.

[Hekate]

16. I can. She has to be traumatized about what's happening to her people.

[cilla4progress]

23. She is

...

[JI7]

22. How about the culture and religion of that Area ?

[IbogaProject]

12. Taliban was funded by CIA

Started in the Carter Administration and got crazy during Regan's.

[niyad]

17. Sorry. The taliban (students) came into existence in 1994 in Pashtun.

You are thinking al-qaeda, which came out of the soviet invasion of Afghanistan, about 1988. President Carter had nothing to do with either, and reagan was not in office in 1998.

[IbogaProject]

20. Semantics

We funded the Mujahideen in 1979, I wasn't aware of the Taliban being a distinct more recent group. The Afgan communist government began educating girls the Mujahideen opposed educating women the Taliban are there successors with the same morals.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_mujahideen

[Hekate]

13. 50% of the pop immediately thrown into slavery & girls forbidden to get even a child's education

Trump arranged for 4 or 5,000Taliban fighters to be freed, made sure the next president would have to fulfill his agreement to withdraw our troops and aid workers.

Trump — never forget it was Trump, and may he get absolutely everything he deserves including reincarnation as a cockroach.

[niyad]

18. Every time I heard someone whining about Ms. Griner, I bring up those 5, 000

taliban fighters. The sputtering and denial are sickening.

The insanity of these relics from the dark ages is almost beyond imagining.

(cockroach? I thought advancing life forms is a no-no?)

[Hekate]

19. Many reincarnations as a cockroach. At least I know what I can do with them...

Having grown up in a subtropical climate, I know the species is immortal but individuals are not, and I was fast as lightening with a rubber slipper. Filthy critters.

[niyad]

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