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applegrove

(118,685 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 06:30 PM Dec 2022

Almost twice as many Republicans than Democrats died of Covid, study says

Almost twice as many Republicans than Democrats died of Covid, study says

The gap in death rates between the parties grew substantially after the vaccines were introduced

Graig Graziosi at The Independant

Thursday 17 November 2022

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republicans-died-double-democrats-covid-b2227425.html
(Paywall. All I could get was two paragraphs)

"SNIP.......

Nearly twice as many Republicans died from Covid-19 than Democrats did, a new study has found.

Excess Death Rates for Republicans and Democrats During the Covid-19 Pandemic, published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, used death records and voter registration records to determine the political breakdown of those who died during the pandemic.

......SNIP"

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Almost twice as many Republicans than Democrats died of Covid, study says (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2022 OP
What a pity. roamer65 Dec 2022 #1
The future statistics are mean. Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #2
Darwin rules malaise Dec 2022 #3
Spot on onetexan Dec 2022 #18
Darwin rules, we win, Magats lose and the Nation is far better off. machoneman Dec 2022 #26
Reality bites. tanyev Dec 2022 #4
link to the original paper DBoon Dec 2022 #5
Thanks for looking up the paper mgardener Dec 2022 #13
Thanks. applegrove Dec 2022 #14
Gee, that's too bad... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #6
Confirming A Bias... ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #7
Herman approves! Initech Dec 2022 #8
Full article: moonscape Dec 2022 #9
Thank you. applegrove Dec 2022 #15
In MI, a majority of COVID deaths happened in counties Biden won Kaleva Dec 2022 #10
Per capita death rate IbogaProject Dec 2022 #19
When populations of rural counties are small, a higher per capita Kaleva Dec 2022 #22
Seems those counties just got bluer. aeromanKC Dec 2022 #27
Possible Kaleva Dec 2022 #29
So much winning 303squadron Dec 2022 #11
used to hear math folks call that type of calculation an "easy figure" cuz duh...🧐 bringthePaine Dec 2022 #12
2 to 1... myohmy2 Dec 2022 #16
Clearly because of that chip. nilram Dec 2022 #17
But they still believe in horse wormers/// Historic NY Dec 2022 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #32
Thinning the heard. Historic NY Dec 2022 #21
Oh well, their choice. republianmushroom Dec 2022 #23
I know that NC with Dem Governor had many fewer deaths per capita then TN, SC and Georgia wishstar Dec 2022 #24
May I nicely suggest they don't get any more vaccines? Flu, measles, DPT, typhoid and diptheria? erronis Dec 2022 #25
Already happening. In Ohio there's an outbreak of measles I believe. oldsoftie Dec 2022 #30
I don't at all feel badly that the willfully unvaccinated MontanaMama Dec 2022 #28
How Many Republicans Died Because the GOP Turned Against Vaccines? LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #31
YOU GET A DARWIN AWARD....AND YOU GET A DARWIN AWARD...AND YOU GET A...!!! LiberalLovinLug Dec 2022 #33
Has Fox News started calling it "Democrat inflicted eugenics" yet? NullTuples Dec 2022 #34

DBoon

(22,367 posts)
5. link to the original paper
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 06:52 PM
Dec 2022
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w30512/w30512.pdf

Here is the abstract:

Political affiliation has emerged as a potential risk factor for COVID-19, amid evidence that
Republican-leaning counties have had higher COVID-19 death rates than Democrat- leaning
counties and evidence of a link between political party affiliation and vaccination views. This
study constructs an individual-level dataset with political affiliation and excess death rates during
the COVID-19 pandemic via a linkage of 2017 voter registration in Ohio and Florida to mortality
data from 2018 to 2021. We estimate substantially higher excess death rates for registered
Republicans when compared to registered Democrats, with almost all of the difference
concentrated in the period after vaccines were widely available in our study states. Overall, the
excess death rate for Republicans was 5.4 percentage points (pp), or 76%, higher than the excess
death rate for Democrats. Post- vaccines, the excess death rate gap between Republicans and
Democrats widened from 1.6 pp (22% of the Democrat excess death rate) to 10.4 pp (153% of the
Democrat excess death rate). The gap in excess death rates between Republicans and Democrats
is concentrated in counties with low vaccination rates and only materializes after vaccines
became widely available.

mgardener

(1,817 posts)
13. Thanks for looking up the paper
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 08:18 PM
Dec 2022

Just about to look it up.
I always try and read the original article when possible.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
7. Confirming A Bias...
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 07:21 PM
Dec 2022

...but in a statistically valid way.
I think many of us here assumed this was the case. This suggests it was not merely philosophical bias.

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
10. In MI, a majority of COVID deaths happened in counties Biden won
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 07:32 PM
Dec 2022

MI is one of 19 states where people don't register their party preference

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
22. When populations of rural counties are small, a higher per capita
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 08:53 PM
Dec 2022

rate doesn't translate to many more deaths. In my Trump loving county, there have been 44 Covid deaths in the past three years.

On the other hand, the vast majority of Trump voters in MI lived in counties classified as urban or mostly urban so it's quite possible a majority of the deaths in the counties Biden won were Trump voters. Trump got 75% of his vote in the state from counties classified as urban or mostly urban

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
29. Possible
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:24 PM
Dec 2022

75% of the vote Trump got in MI in 2020 came from counties classified as urban or mostly urban.

Response to Historic NY (Reply #20)

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
21. Thinning the heard.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 08:50 PM
Dec 2022

It's called thinning the herd, perhaps because they believe in every quack cure that comes down the pike. They don't want vaccines, I wonder how they will feel about the new cancer research and vaccines.

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
24. I know that NC with Dem Governor had many fewer deaths per capita then TN, SC and Georgia
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 08:58 PM
Dec 2022

NC Gov Cooper instituted and encouraged Covid mandates and masking while neighboring states with Repub governors did not and even tried to prohibit cities from imposing Covid mandates and masking. After much pressure, SC Gov McMaster finally relented and allowed some cities that wanted mask mandates to be able to institute mandates and those cities were undoubtedly more Democratic leaning.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
25. May I nicely suggest they don't get any more vaccines? Flu, measles, DPT, typhoid and diptheria?
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:04 PM
Dec 2022

Maybe they shouldn't even go see any doctors/hospitals. I know some are into "homeopathic/naturopathic" remedies. Ciao.

Of course they may be more dangerous disease vectors, but with luck they'll be 6 feet under very soon.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
28. I don't at all feel badly that the willfully unvaccinated
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:23 PM
Dec 2022

perished. I do feel badly that they likely took good vaccinated people down with them. So long assholes.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
31. How Many Republicans Died Because the GOP Turned Against Vaccines?
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 03:21 AM
Dec 2022

The GOP is killing its supporters



https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/12/covid-deaths-anti-vaccine-republican-voters/672575/

No country has a perfect COVID-vaccination rate, even this far into the pandemic, but America’s record is particularly dismal. About a third of Americans—more than a hundred million people—have yet to get their initial shots. You can find anti-vaxxers in every corner of the country. But by far the single group of adults most likely to be unvaccinated is Republicans: 37 percent of Republicans are still unvaccinated or only partially vaccinated, compared with 9 percent of Democrats. Fourteen of the 15 states with the lowest vaccination rates voted for Donald Trump in 2020. (The other is Georgia.).....

Breaking down the cost of vaccine hesitancy would be simple if we could draw a causal relationship between Republican leaders’ anti-vaccine messaging and the adoption of those ideas by Americans, and then from those ideas to deaths due to non-vaccination. Unfortunately, we don’t have the data to do so. Individual vaccine skepticism cannot be traced back to a single source, and even if it could, we don’t know exactly who is unvaccinated and what their political affiliations are.

What we do have is a patchwork of estimations and correlations that, taken together, paint a blurry but nevertheless grim picture of how Republican leaders spread the vaccine hesitancy that has killed so many people. We know that as of April 2022, about 318,000 people had died from COVID because they were unvaccinated, according to research from Brown University. And the close association between Republican vaccine hesitancy and higher death rates has been documented. One study estimated that by the fall of 2021, vaccine uptake accounted for 10 percent of the total difference between Republican and Democratic deaths. But that estimate has changed—and even likely grown—over time.

Partisanship affected outcomes in the pandemic even before we had vaccines. A recent study found that from October 2020 to February 2021, the death rate in Republican-leaning counties was up to three times higher than that of Democratic-leaning counties, likely because of differences in masking and social distancing. Even when vaccines came around, these differences continued, Mauricio Santillana, an epidemiology expert at Northeastern University and a co-author of the study, told me. Follow-up research published in The Lancet Regional Health—Americas in October looked at deaths from April 2021 to March 2022 and found a 26 percent higher death rate in areas where voters leaned Republican. “There are subsequent and very serious [partisan] patterns with the Delta and Omicron waves, some of which can be explained by vaccination,” Bill Hanage, a co-author of the paper and an epidemiologist at Harvard, told me in an email......

One of the most compelling studies comes from researchers at Yale, who published their findings as a working paper in November. They link political party and excess-death rate—the percent increase in deaths above pre-COVID levels—among those registered as either Democrats or Republicans, providing a more granular view. They chose to analyze data from Florida and Ohio from before and after vaccines were available. Looking at the period before the vaccines, researchers found a 1.6-percentage-point difference in excess-death rate among Republicans and Democrats, with a higher rate among Republicans. But after vaccines became available, that gap widened dramatically to 10.4 percentage points, again with a higher Republican excess-death rate. “When we compare individuals who are of the same age, who live in the same county in the same month of the pandemic, there are differences correlated with your political-party affiliation that emerge after vaccines are available,” Jacob Wallace, an assistant professor of public health at Yale who co-authored the paper, told me. “That’s a statement we can confidently make based on the study and we couldn’t before.”......

Unfortunately, this trend shows no signs of breaking. The anti-science messaging that fuels such a divide is popular with Republican leaders because it plays so well with their constituents. Far-right crowds cheer for missed vaccine targets and jokes about executing scientific leaders. In an environment where partisanship trumps all—including trying to save people’s lives—such messaging is both politically effective and morally abhorrent. The data, however imperfect, demand a reckoning with the consequences of such a strategy not only during the pandemic but over the past few decades, and in the years to come. But to acknowledge how many Republicans didn’t have to die would mean giving credence to scientific and medical expertise. So long as America remains locked in a poisonous partisan battle in which science is wrongly dismissed as being associated with the left, the death toll will only rise.


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