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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:29 AM Dec 2022

The surest way to insure that we accomplish NOTHING is to require that we not even

try until we are 100% certain that we have 100% of everything we might possibly need once we begin. That is a recipe for stagnation.

Of course, thoughtful planning and organization are needed, but virtually no undertaking has ever been risk-free. And, seeing that someone is willing to "stick their neck out" is sometimes enough to motivate unexpected others to join the fray. As the old song says: "Start me with ten who are stout-hearted men and I'll soon give you ten thousand more!"

An excuse not to act that is cut from the same cloth is, of course, "But it's never been done before!" Conservatives build their political careers on the pledge to never do anything for the first time. We have never before had to deal with the reality that we permitted an international adversary to place a career criminal---a thug--- in our White House. OF COURSE we will have to do some things we've never done before and without any "guarantee" that our first efforts to right the ship of state will be successful.

We don't KNOW what will happen if we try alternative X, Y or Z, but we know what will happen if we do nothing.




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The surest way to insure that we accomplish NOTHING is to require that we not even (Original Post) Atticus Dec 2022 OP
Well said...... secondwind Dec 2022 #1
Evil triumphs when good people do nothing nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #2
Yes indeed. Faith without works is dead, as is desire, intent, and design. Magoo48 Dec 2022 #3
Hear Hear, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2022 #4
That is an excellent point wendyb-NC Dec 2022 #5
+1000 Solomon Dec 2022 #6
...and the ones that start with, "I've had years of experience with how government works..... jaxexpat Dec 2022 #10
We have trod the same sod. nt Atticus Dec 2022 #13
Half the country DownriverDem Dec 2022 #7
That half only disagrees because sdfernando Dec 2022 #8
Its a good bit more than half Cosmocat Dec 2022 #15
"we know what will happen if we do nothing" CaptainTruth Dec 2022 #9
That, too Cosmocat Dec 2022 #16
"Perfect is the enemy of the good." Wednesdays Dec 2022 #11
"Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could only do a little." spike jones Dec 2022 #12
So true; and; such behavior is often encouraged by our enemies and opponents. Tender hopper Dec 2022 #14

nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
2. Evil triumphs when good people do nothing
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:38 AM
Dec 2022

I think enough of us have looked the other way enough times. We have a justice system that is fair to ALL or we have nothing. I'm fast approaching 70 and would love nothing more than to see our nation "get it right" on something consequential before I leave this earth. But I am not going to hold my breath waiting.

Magoo48

(4,709 posts)
3. Yes indeed. Faith without works is dead, as is desire, intent, and design.
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:39 AM
Dec 2022

Somewhere between the often paralyzing polls or hope and despair the real work gets done.
Thanks for your post.

wendyb-NC

(3,327 posts)
5. That is an excellent point
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:01 AM
Dec 2022

"But it's never been done before!" I say, so what? Just do it, it's warranted!

Tfg, is a criminal empire. He's been doing this for a long time, and gotten away with it. He needs to be treated like any other citizen, and organized, criminal ring, and face the consequences of his actions along with his foot soldiers and enablers. He is 76, he's abominable and has damaged our democracy, and will destroy if not stopped.

Thanks, for your post.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
6. +1000
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:07 AM
Dec 2022

I'm sick of the excuses for why we shouldn't, especially the "they have to have all the ducks perfectly lined up" excuse.

jaxexpat

(6,827 posts)
10. ...and the ones that start with, "I've had years of experience with how government works.....
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 12:21 PM
Dec 2022

and everything's going as expected", as if that's a good thing.

Well, I've had years of experience be placed at projects doing poorly in order to move them along. It's usually site management and its communication with the field supervision that are the culprits. Most of the resistance I received against my efforts was from those happy with the pace of their light workload and confident their incompetence was acceptable if not invisible. The most common retort was, "it's going the way it always has and it worked then, and you can't change it". If I got lucky the first pink slips were all that were required to inspire those remaining toward more productive efforts. The unfixable was when company "favorites" were allowed unquestioned authority beyond their level of competence. Still, to maintain the ship, dead weight must go. Backstabbing aplenty ensued on more than one occasion.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
8. That half only disagrees because
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:53 AM
Dec 2022

its a white rethuglican. If it was anyone of color (Obama for example) they would be screaming from the hilltops for indictment, and conviction, and hanging.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
15. Its a good bit more than half
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 02:13 PM
Dec 2022

which is the problem.

Our third is pulling our hair out.

The "other" third is cheering it on.

But, the "middle" third either sees nothing wrong with it or just does not want to deal with it.

These people give cover to the fascists here, just as they did in Germany in the early 1930s.

That has been the battle I have witnessed my entire 35+ years of adult life.

The people who really care about american democracy, and their fellow country men are just flat out numbered by the fascists and the people who just don't care either way.

CaptainTruth

(6,591 posts)
9. "we know what will happen if we do nothing"
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 12:17 PM
Dec 2022

Yes, & that applies to all of us, every American who wants to save our democracy.

I've found that most folks I interact with on social media haven't done anything, nothing out of the usual, the normal, other than complain on social media, which isn't really doing anything. It won't change anything.

Saving democracy isn't "some one else's job," it's OUR job. Yes, there are many actors who have a role to play but it's US, millions of Americans like us who care enough to take actions above & beyond what we've always done, that may be the most important & influential actor of all.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
16. That, too
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 09:37 AM
Dec 2022

the people who want to see American democracy undone literally never sleep, there are more groups and organizations actively doing things to do make it happen than you can even try to count, and they throw a $hit ton money into it.

Tender hopper

(60 posts)
14. So true; and; such behavior is often encouraged by our enemies and opponents.
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 01:54 PM
Dec 2022

When you don`t order your cheeseburger because you can't afford fries; you stay hungry.

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