Pat Cipollone and Cassidy Hutchinson are witnesses a prosecutor dreams about.

[fightforfreedom]

Both of them witnessed the planning of the crimes, the crimes being committed. Their testimonies matched. Both of them are well respected and come across as truthful.

Most importantly, neither of them have a dog in the hunt. They were not involved in the Coup of Fools. They are not testifying to get a deal. They are simply telling the truth and I believe a jury will believe them.

I believe they already testified before the grand jury. Cipollone was recently freed up from executive privilege so he most likely answered questions in front of the grand jury that he did not to the J6 committee.

These two witnesses are a big problem for the coup plotters. Justice is coming.

[malaise]

1. Leonard aka the Slobfather

was guilty all along

[PJMcK]

2. Leonard? (n/t)

[malaise]

3. The Classic Movie with Marlene Dietrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_for_the_Prosecution_(1957_film)#:~:text=Witness%20for%20the%20Prosecution%20is,Charles%20Laughton%20and%20Elsa%20Lanchester.

[PJMcK]

4. Ah!

Good one, malaise!

Sorry for being dense this morning.

[Pobeka]

5. Hutchinson, while I believe her, not so much.

Lying under oath. Admitting to lying (under oath).

Cross-examination -- "Are you lying now?"
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Trump's free lawyer Passantino to her did a lot of damage to her credibilty. It will take a lot of extra work to restore her credibility.

[Jersey Devil]

7. Hutchinson is not really a valuable witness

Most of what she said is hearsay and would not be admissable in court. What someone told her about Trump's behavior in his limo demanding to go to the Capitol or what someone told her Trump said is fine for a congressional hearing but would not be allowed in court.

[Pobeka]

8. Trump's behaviour is just social click bait. That she saw Meadows burning docs damning. nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. Actually, they both might be on the hook, at least nominally

Hutchinson for perjury or lying to congress (although I doubt she will be charged), and Cippilone could at least be on the hook for sanctions against his law license.

Recent revelations show the Herschman coaxed Hutchinson into accepting Trump’s attorney and his biased advice, so he could be on the hook too.

Of course, their risk pales compared to that of Meadows, Eastman, Clark and Giuliani.