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Lavrov just give us Donbas, Crimea, Zaporizhzhia (Maripoul) and Kherson then no war crimes trials add in no payments
for the damage caused by Russia in its war on Ukraine and its citizens.
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"Putting forward all sorts of ideas and 'formulas of peace,' Zelensky cherishes the illusion of achieving, with the help of the West, the withdrawal of our troops from the Russian territory of Donbas, Crimea, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson region, the payment of reparations by Russia, and the surrender of international tribunals and the like."
"Of course, we will not talk to anyone on such conditions," Lavrov added.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-outlines-three-conditions-for-peace-it-will-not-accept-from-zelensky/ar-AA15M2il?cvid=158c0119f46b4e42a76e80389a4d0d3b
Lovie777
(12,260 posts)Russian economy is crashing. It appears China as well, and with the newly outbreak of COVID, the world could be in another horrid situation.
Ray Bruns
(4,093 posts)None of Lavrovs conditions are acceptable to Ukraine.
Lovie777
(12,260 posts)duh.
brush
(53,776 posts)from Ukraine, destroying much of its infrastructure and then not having to pay reparations for their unprovoked destruction or being charge with war crimes, or which they are obviously guilty.
No effin way. The Russian war criminals must pay and must pay to rebuild what they demolished in Ukraine.
2naSalit
(86,595 posts)Walleye
(31,017 posts)But it looks like at least Russia might be thinking about it
Cha
(297,196 posts)has anyone said.. "Go Fuck yourself Genocidal Maniacs."
Tetrachloride
(7,840 posts)and the kidnapped Ukrainians ?
KS Toronado
(17,230 posts)to the Ukrainian Justice system for any peace talks to begin. Surely there's people in Russia
who wish Putin was out of power, hand him over, problem solved.
zuul
(14,624 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)For starters.
But they must leave Ukraine & absolutely must pay reparations.
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)Hekate
(90,675 posts)Crush infrastructure? Did I mention the rape of children? Little bodies found with their teeth knocked out? Mass graves? The kidnap of children and their adoption into Russian families? Then Putin just moves Russians into Ukrainian rubble and they rebuild on the graves of Ukrainians?
Lavrov wants to set conditions ?
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)electric_blue68
(14,891 posts)Response to Botany (Original post)
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LetMyPeopleVote
(145,195 posts)Putin does not want to negotiate but wants a cease fire to rebuild his destroyed military
Link to tweet
Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)1. Get the fuck off of Ukrainian land, including Crimea.
2. Pay for the reconstruction of all damaged infrastructure.
3. Be accountable for any and all war crimes.
Period. End of story.
Forgive my repetition of already stated Ukrainian goals, but in my opinion, those are the only ones worthy of consideration.
Screw Putin. His justifications for this gross injustice should qualify him for public execution.
Botany
(70,503 posts)In Maripoul at the Azovstal Metal and Steel Works. Or just let a bunch of Russian draftees who
got sent to Ukraine have at him. Putin is now up there with Hitler, Pol Pot, and Stalin for being
a barbarian. 30% of Russians don't have modern plumbing but Vlad has @ least 3 billion dollar
homes.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Also start bringing in the test systems.
Use the conflict for testing new weapons systems.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Love,
Serge
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)raped your sister and killed your father. We'll stop, lets call it even.
Takket
(21,565 posts)Here are the terms: Ukraine will keep supplying bullets for every piece of meat Putin shoves across the border, and Russia can have peace any day they feel like pulling out.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Chainfire
(17,536 posts)and is able to dictate the peace. It just doesn't look that way on the ground.
Mad_Machine76
(24,412 posts)They just basically want the land they were seeking and no consequences.
Ray Bruns
(4,093 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)1. Surrender Russian President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Dmitri Lavrov to the Ukrainian Government for prosecution on war crimes charges. Further, surrender all property owned by Putin and Lavrov to the Ukrainian government.
2. Agreement that the territory of Ukraine includes all territory annexed by Russia since the day the Soviet Union was dissolved.
3. Surrender all Russian military equipment currently within the borders of Ukraine to the Ukrainian government, to include wheeled and tracked vehicles, crew-served weapon systems and small arms carried by individual soldiers. All Russian ammunition will similarly be surrendered.
4. Remove all Russian personnel from Ukrainian territory, to include Ministry of Defense and FSB personnel. These personnel will be transported out of Ukraine by bus.
5. Full payment in reparation for damage caused by the Russian-declared illegal war.
6. Place the Russian Army under the control of NATO for a period of one hundred years. All expenses incurred by NATO control of the Russian Army will be paid by Russia.
Aristus
(66,330 posts)You cannot talk when you are dead.