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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 08:17 AM Dec 2022

Only a so called genius could say this.

"So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous... whether it's ultraviolet or just a very powerful light...and I think you said that hasn't been checked yet because of testing. Suppose you brought the light inside the body. Which you can do through the skin."

"I see the disinfectant that knock's it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injecting inside or almost a cleaning." A quote from the so called genius Trump. Staff attempted to stop Trump from saying this about Covid, they were over ruled by another genius, Mark Meadows.

Trump is one of the most incompetent, ignorant fools I have ever seen. If you look back at all the things people have said about Trump, people who worked for him. It is clear the White House staff had to hold Trumps hand, tell him what to do and what not to do during his entire presidency.

I believe people in the White House, hundreds of times, had to stop Trump from doing, saying stupid shit. Trump was never really in charge, he was too incompetent to handle the job. He simply listens to the people around him and then just goes with what sounds good to him. Trump was never really in charge, but at the same time he would use his power over all those around him. When he made a decision, no matter how stupid, you had to follow it or he would fire you.

We are lucky we survived the presidency of Trump the Traitor. One of the biggest fools that ever lived.

I would agree with this about Trump. He is one of the luckiest human beings that ever lived. That unbelievable luck may be about to run out in a very, very, big way.

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Only a so called genius could say this. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Dec 2022 OP
The bigger fools are those that voted for him nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #1
That is true. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #2
Damn straight, FFF. Firestorm49 Dec 2022 #24
Absolutely Mr. Steve Dec 2022 #23
Yeah musclecar6 Dec 2022 #32
Trumpism lives on gab13by13 Dec 2022 #3
Dotard never wanted to lead or govern. He wants to rule. keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #25
He also spent hours of "executive time" in his quarters, most likely running his businesses. Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #29
Oh, MAN, that was so embarrassing to listen to - and live through! calimary Dec 2022 #4
A few did take his advice about disinfectant Better Days Ahoy Dec 2022 #8
Some people did take him seriously, they drank disinfectant. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #9
And Birx was sitting there cringing. I did too. liberalla Dec 2022 #19
She looked like she wanted to crawl under her chair and die. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #38
But bdamomma Dec 2022 #5
Part bravado, part self-promotion, part liar, part TV star. Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #6
only if you're a big fan of All Star Wraslin' stopdiggin Dec 2022 #12
What the sam hell was he talking about? Supernova ultraviolet rectal probe??? bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #7
+1. far from being a genius stopdiggin Dec 2022 #10
gonna keep sayin it, til we get to see his mris mopinko Dec 2022 #11
I never did understand what the reason was wnylib Dec 2022 #13
He believed everything he spouted Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #45
Penn Jillette - who appeared on a season of FalloutShelter Dec 2022 #14
So he's NOT a tdfg supporter? AllyCat Dec 2022 #15
Absolutely NOT a fan. FalloutShelter Dec 2022 #16
That makes me feel better. AllyCat Dec 2022 #17
Most professional magicians Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #46
Penn & Teller on Gun Control old as dirt Jan 2023 #50
This fucking incompetent murderer was president malaise Dec 2022 #18
Thanks for the video. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #20
I remember seeing people defend and try to prove that Trump was The Third Doctor Dec 2022 #21
Many of his supporters did not survive IronLionZion Dec 2022 #22
Reduced Viral Loads Seen in COVID-19 Patients Treated With UVA Light DebunkingLies Dec 2022 #26
You left out the disclaimer in your link Yonnie3 Dec 2022 #31
With 5 patients, that result doesn't even have VMA131Marine Dec 2022 #34
so here we are, 18 months down the road stopdiggin Dec 2022 #41
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jan 2023 #44
The same folks who believe that tfg is a stable genius... old as dirt Dec 2022 #27
Why not? Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #47
I have less faith in his truthfulness than you. old as dirt Jan 2023 #49
Been saying this for a while... DemUnleashed Dec 2022 #28
HAHAHAHAHA Genki Hikari Jan 2023 #48
While many MAGAs were denigrating vaccines, Trump ensured that his family got them. keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #30
We may have survived it, but it will take YEARS to correct everything he screwed up. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2022 #33
It's even more sobering to realize that there are 74 million people Buns_of_Fire Dec 2022 #35
George Carlin once pointed out.... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2022 #37
I've wondered if we'll ever find out all the things #DementiaDonnie area51 Dec 2022 #36
It was reported he wanted to bomb North Korea. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #39
He got the idea from the Saudi orb Blue Owl Dec 2022 #40
Excellent post! raccoon Dec 2022 #42
If we were a better country, his luck would've run out long ago. harumph Dec 2022 #43

musclecar6

(1,690 posts)
32. Yeah
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 11:12 AM
Dec 2022


Two types voted for him, the greedy and stupid ( MAGA morons). The greedy knows he is a complete fuck up but they pray at the altar of their wallet and they don’t give a fuck about anything else. They figured the Democrats will cost them more money, so tough shit they’re gonna vote for that asshole no matter what.

The stupid voted for him because even if they might know that he’s a fuck up he has all their nice isms that they have, racism,gay bashing, sexism, white nationalism and all the stuff they hate he hates.

When Barrack or Joe talk about our country and saying we’re better than that they are correct somewhat. The problem is they are talking about our side of the aisle not the other side of the aisle. The other side is loaded with trash unfortunately and they are not the better part of our society. For many of them it’s all about them all the time and fuck everybody else. Another factor is they seem to have an affinity for fascism and want to head us down the road of Hitler, Putin, etc and the worst that have come down the pike.

gab13by13

(21,405 posts)
3. Trumpism lives on
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 08:39 AM
Dec 2022

It will take a generation to undo the damage that Trump inflicted upon our democracy.

Trumps taxes will be released today that will show tax fraud and nothing will be done about it.

Those who believe that Trump is either an angry toddler or a half-brained idiot have fallen into his con.

As far as Trump running the country, he never wanted to do that, he wanted to destroy the country, destroy our democracy and use the presidency to make money.

Jimmy Carter is more intelligent than Donald Trump but Carter had to sell off his beloved peanut farm, Trump divested nothing of his businesses, he increased his investments while he was president, and nothing was done to him.

Lonestarblue

(10,076 posts)
29. He also spent hours of "executive time" in his quarters, most likely running his businesses.
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 11:03 AM
Dec 2022

When he wasn’t on executive time, he was watching Fox News. Perhaps we are lucky that he had no interest in governing since he spent so little time doing his job.

I agree that it will take a generation to recover from Trump and the devolution of the Republican Party into lying, hateful people who want to destroy democracy, but in the meantime we Democrats need to elect more progressive candidates to Congress who can then help overcome some of the Trump legacy. For example, DC and Puerto Rico deserve to become states. The Supreme Court needs four more justices to balance the extremist right-wing Republican cabal intent on destroying civil and personal rights while also elevating the rights of corporations and extremist religion.

If, heaven forbid, Republicans take full control of the WH and Congress in 2024, we may well find our democracy gone in a heartbeat.

calimary

(81,470 posts)
4. Oh, MAN, that was so embarrassing to listen to - and live through!
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 08:51 AM
Dec 2022

I couldn’t believe what I was hearing when that orange know-nothing mused openly about “ways to combat the virus” - that could have killed people if they took him seriously.

It’s still shocking, whenever I think back on that.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
9. Some people did take him seriously, they drank disinfectant.
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:32 AM
Dec 2022

Some people started selling disinfectant.

stopdiggin

(11,366 posts)
12. only if you're a big fan of All Star Wraslin'
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:40 AM
Dec 2022

An equal number of people saw his TV shows (and rallies) - with a strong urge to vomit.

bucolic_frolic

(43,289 posts)
7. What the sam hell was he talking about? Supernova ultraviolet rectal probe???
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:29 AM
Dec 2022

Low voltage electrocution? The man was insane at all times.

stopdiggin

(11,366 posts)
10. +1. far from being a genius
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:36 AM
Dec 2022

(or anything even remotely resembling ..)
People that worked with him have continually reported how astonishingly dense, uninformed and outright clueless the man was. And 'A' level moron. (with all due apologies to people with any mental disability)

mopinko

(70,218 posts)
11. gonna keep sayin it, til we get to see his mris
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:39 AM
Dec 2022

he’s just plain brain damaged. and i believe worse after covid.
but no way, even in his prime, he could have pulled ANY.OF.THIS.OFF.
i remind you of- man,woman, person, camera, tv. several ppl here knew about that test, and that there is no way those were the correct a answers. it’s always 5 unrelated words. but did anyone on your tv point that put? no. no they didnt.

he was a puppet of putler, murdoch, the mercers, et al. the depth of his tentacles into every part of the fed govt is something he could never, ever have accomplished.

i’d rather see him branded as a mad man than a criminal. to me, that the world doesnt know what 1 looks like is the most frightening thing about it all.

wnylib

(21,611 posts)
13. I never did understand what the reason was
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:43 AM
Dec 2022

for such BS. I don't think that he believed the garbage that he spouted. The only thing I can think of is that he just wanted to sow chaos and death.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
45. He believed everything he spouted
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 10:03 AM
Jan 2023

At the time. Because he's a moron. Morons say and do and believe stupid stuff, and they're too stupid to know the stuff they say and do and believe is stupid. They're so stupid that they actually think they're the smart ones.

Willful stupidity, and proud of it, is the cancer that is slowly destroying this country.

FalloutShelter

(11,878 posts)
14. Penn Jillette - who appeared on a season of
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:51 AM
Dec 2022

The Apprentice. ( when criticized for taking the gig said, “ when you are an overweight, old magician and you have a chance to be on national TV , you take it”)

Also said later. Of TFG…”However bad you think he is… he’s worse.”

AllyCat

(16,222 posts)
15. So he's NOT a tdfg supporter?
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 09:58 AM
Dec 2022

Heard that somewhere and should have investigated further, but that does not sound like the adulation Of a supporter of the orange menace.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
46. Most professional magicians
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 10:05 AM
Jan 2023

Aren't stupid people. They're masters of illusion, yes, but it also makes them more aware of BS when they see it.

They're sort of like comedians that way.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
20. Thanks for the video.
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 10:17 AM
Dec 2022

One of the major reasons he lies all the time is because he is ignorant as hell. He has no idea what the hell he is talking about. So he just lies trying to fool people. Look at me, I heard this, I heard that about the virus. Don't worry I am on the job fighting the virus.

The guy is a fucking clown.

IronLionZion

(45,529 posts)
22. Many of his supporters did not survive
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 10:36 AM
Dec 2022

there were comparisons to Jonestown when he was encouraging his supporters to poison themselves to own the libs.

DebunkingLies

(1 post)
26. Reduced Viral Loads Seen in COVID-19 Patients Treated With UVA Light
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 11:00 AM
Dec 2022

Reduced Viral Loads Seen in COVID-19 Patients Treated With UVA Light

Cedars-Sinai Research Involving Five Critically Ill Patients is Encouraging and Warrants Further Investigation, Scientists Say

Ultraviolet light treatments introduced into the tracheas of five critically ill COVID-19 patients appeared to be safe and associated with a reduction in the respiratory load of SARS-CoV-2—the virus responsible for COVID-19—in all but one patient, according to a study conducted by Cedars-Sinai.

The findings, published in the peer-reviewed journal Advances in Therapy, were based on five days of 20-minute treatments with ultraviolet A (UVA) light using a catheter inserted into the patients' tracheas. Patients were followed for 30 days. The findings were based on four patients; the fifth patient had no detectable levels of SARS-CoV-2 at the study outset.

The research indicated that the reduced viral loads appeared to be associated with improvement in the patients' clinical conditions as measured by a standard scale used by the World Health Organization. The investigators emphasized the preliminary nature of their research, noting that they did not demonstrate a causal link between the improvement in patient conditions and the reduced viral loads.

"Although our study suggested that ultraviolet A light may be useful in treating COVID-19, further investigation is needed to determine whether this approach can improve clinical outcomes," said Ali Rezaie, MD, FRCP(C), medical director of GI Motility at Cedars-Sinai and the study's corresponding author.

Rezaie, an associate professor of Medicine, explained that the study was limited by the small sample size and the fact that the natural history of SARS-CoV-2 levels in the respiratory tracts of COVID-19 intensive care patients is not well understood. Larger studies that include a control group are needed to further gauge the effects of UVA light treatment and to explore the mechanism of these effects, he added.

The study was led by investigators from the Medically Associated Science and Technology (MAST) Program, including Rezaie; MAST program director Mark Pimentel, MD, FRCP(C), professor of Medicine; Ruchi Mathur, MD, FRCP(C), professor of Medicine; Gil Melmed, MD, professor of Medicine; George Chaux, MD, professor of Medicine; and Gabriela Leite, PhD, project scientist.

Also contributing were other investigators from the Cedars-Sinai Department of Medicine, including Division of General Internal Medicine; Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine; and Division of Infectious Diseases.

Although UVA light phototherapy has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to treat several dermatological diseases, it has not yet been approved for internal use.

The Advances in Therapy study builds on earlier research by the Cedars-Sinai investigative team, performed using laboratory mice and laboratory cultured human cells, suggesting that UVA light could, under certain conditions, reduce the levels of certain bacteria and viruses that are similar to SARS-CoV-2 without harming the human cells.

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reduced-viral-loads-seen-in-covid-19-patients-treated-with-uva-light/

Yonnie3

(17,485 posts)
31. You left out the disclaimer in your link
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 11:10 AM
Dec 2022
Funding: This investigator-initiated study was sponsored by Aytu BioPharma. 

Disclosures: Rezaie, Pimentel, Melmed, Mathur and Leite are inventors on patent applications filed by Cedars-Sinai Medical Center related to the device (internal ultraviolet therapy) being used in this study. These patent applications are exclusively licensed by Cedars-Sinai to Aytu BioPharma, Inc. for endotracheal and nasopharyngeal use only; under the license, Cedars-Sinai has the right to receive royalties from Aytu BioPharma, and the inventors have the right to receive a portion of those royalties from Cedars-Sinai. None of the study authors receives a salary or consulting fees from Aytu BioPharma, and neither the study authors nor Cedars-Sinai have any equity, shares, or options in Aytu BioPharma.


What lies are you debunking? I don't see outcomes for the patients.

stopdiggin

(11,366 posts)
41. so here we are, 18 months down the road
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 03:56 PM
Dec 2022

and there just doesn't seem to be any mad scramble to adopt this technique/therapy as a treatment. Gee - what a stunning development!

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
47. Why not?
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 10:08 AM
Jan 2023

He believes the same things as their deity--hates foreigners and would call them dogs to their faces (Matthew 15). Promotes divisiveness (Matthew 10). Would love to torture those who disagree with him (too many incidents to list).

Have you READ the book? I mean, really, they're not so far apart.

 

old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
49. I have less faith in his truthfulness than you.
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 11:14 AM
Jan 2023

And as for THE BOOK, see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proofs_from_THE_BOOK

Proofs from THE BOOK

Proofs from THE BOOK is a book of mathematical proofs by Martin Aigner and Günter M. Ziegler. The book is dedicated to the mathematician Paul Erdős, who often referred to "The Book" in which God keeps the most elegant proof of each mathematical theorem. During a lecture in 1985, Erdős said, "You don't have to believe in God, but you should believe in The Book."

https://www.amazon.com/Proofs-BOOK-Martin-Aigner/dp/3662442043

Here's a book review from the MAA:

https://www.maa.org/press/maa-reviews/proofs-from-the-book-1

DemUnleashed

(633 posts)
28. Been saying this for a while...
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 11:01 AM
Dec 2022

I have been saying this for a while...if Trump were to ever become the nominee again, moderators at one of the debates needs to ask him questions from Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader!! Maybe then his base would finally see how stupid he is!

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
48. HAHAHAHAHA
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 10:09 AM
Jan 2023

Uh, no. Because they're not smarter than a 5th grader.

People seriously overestimate the intelligence of the average American.

keithbvadu2

(36,910 posts)
30. While many MAGAs were denigrating vaccines, Trump ensured that his family got them.
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 11:05 AM
Dec 2022

While many MAGAs were denigrating vaccines, Trump ensured that his family got them.

Fox made sure their employees got them while Tucker was denouncing them (and got his).

A HERETIC I AM

(24,377 posts)
33. We may have survived it, but it will take YEARS to correct everything he screwed up.
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 11:13 AM
Dec 2022
I believe people in the White House, hundreds of times, had to stop Trump from doing, saying stupid shit. Trump was never really in charge, he was too incompetent to handle the job. He simply listens to the people around him and then just goes with what sounds good to him. Trump was never really in charge, but at the same time he would use his power over all those around him. When he made a decision, no matter how stupid, you had to follow it or he would fire you.


I wonder if you have read any of the books that have come out about him over the last 6 years. I have gotten a bunch on Audible and listened to them while driving, and it's clear that not only was he treated like he was in charge, people were deferring to him out of duty to the system.

It presents a remarkable contrast. For instance, folks like Milley and the others in the military establishment who had their jobs for years and years had never been forced to deal with such incompetence before, particularly from someone who was ostensibly above them in the chain of command, but still said "Yes Sir" to him for the most part.

Sure, there were plenty of people and plenty of times when someone had to say "Sir, we can't do that" but the shit that did spill out of his anus shaped mouth that they had to go along with was mind-boggling. The famous Sharpie on the weather map episode is a perfect example. I think someone actually got either fired or seriously demoted because they didn't follow the White House directive to make him look like he was right. And he could NEVER be wrong, and when he was, which was with alarming regularity, they went out of their way to smooth out those wrinkles.

You're right though; The stories I've read about the amount of cringe worthy things he said and did on a daily basis that rank and file staff had to deal with, made the White House a totally chaotic place to work. Chaos like never before, in fact.

One thing is very clear after all this - Trumpy didn't want to do the job of being President, as he had absolutely no idea what it took to be one, but he sure as hell loved being president. He absolutely reveled in the attention, the fact that everyone treated him like he was...well..the president. He apparently loved having Marine 1 and Air Force 1 at his immediate beck and call. Remember that he flew somewhere ALL THE TIME! It was like Marine 1 was on the South Lawn at least 5 days a week. It seems to me that the motherfucker put more hours on those aircraft than Obama and Bush together. Unfortunately the Air Force nor the Marine Corps releases those figures, but it would be interesting to know exactly how much time he spent flying at our expense.

It's going to take decades to recover from that asshole, if we ever can.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,196 posts)
35. It's even more sobering to realize that there are 74 million people
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 11:20 AM
Dec 2022

walking around out there that are even more stupid than he is.

I won't use the word "ignorant" when referring to them. "Ignorance" can be rectified. "Stupid" can't.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,377 posts)
37. George Carlin once pointed out....
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 11:22 AM
Dec 2022

you should remember that if you meet a person of average intelligence, HALF of the rest of the people are dumber than he is.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
39. It was reported he wanted to bomb North Korea.
Fri Dec 30, 2022, 12:10 PM
Dec 2022

They had to talk him out of it. That's just one example out of hundreds.

raccoon

(31,120 posts)
42. Excellent post!
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 06:52 AM
Dec 2022
Trump is one of the most incompetent, ignorant fools I have ever seen.


Thanks for a good laugh on New Year‘s Eve day!
Of course, that is 100% true.
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