Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:44 AM
dawg (10,552 posts)
A serious and sympathetic post for any lurking conservatives.
Your pollsters and your pundits lied to you.
They told you all the mainstream polls were "skewed". They told you it was going to be a Romney landslide. They said their internal polls showed that Romney was ahead, and that Pennsylvania was in play. They lied. They did it because they wanted to manipulate you and make sure that you were excited enough to go out and vote. Maybe you understand why they lied, but it should be clear to you by now, that they did indeed lie to you. They lie to you about other things as well. They definitely lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. They are lying to you about climate change. And they constantly lie to you about the income distribution of the tax cuts they propose. The biggest lies they tell, though, are about us - the liberals. The truth is this: We believe in hard work, and that it would be best if every able-bodied working age person had a job. We believe in families; strong families make a strong America. We believe in the freedom of religion. We would never support a candidate who was openly hostile to Christianity (or Judaism, or Islam, etc.). We believe in success. Most of us do not favor punitive tax rates for the rich; we just think that middle class and working class families should get extra breaks on their taxes that the rich do not need. We believe in free enterprise capitalism (well, most of us). Capitalism works through competition, and competition fails when big businesses are allowed to run roughshod over smaller businesses and workers. That's why we favor regulated capitalism instead of a Wild West free-for-all. Most of all, we believe in America. We love this country and we strive to make it better. We may not always be right about everything, but we are motivated by our love of the country and its people - ALL of its people. We are your friends and your neighbors. We have jobs, kids, mortgages, bills, honey-do lists, and headaches just the same as you. We aren't the monsters Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck told you we were. Your pollsters and your pundits lied to you. I'm telling you the truth.
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Jackpine Radical | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
LostinRed | Nov 2012 | #140 | |
seabeyond | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
dawg | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
Eleanors38 | Nov 2012 | #29 | |
Glorfindel | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
ErikJ | Nov 2012 | #102 | |
txdemsftw | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
Horse with no Name | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
coalition_unwilling | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
dawg | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
Tikki | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
ieoeja | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
Tommy_Carcetti | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
PowerToThePeople | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
ismnotwasm | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
FSogol | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
Cha | Nov 2012 | #144 | |
1gobluedem | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
EnviroBat | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
slutticus | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
heaven05 | Nov 2012 | #76 | |
Dirty Socialist | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
reformist2 | Nov 2012 | #56 | |
savebigbird | Nov 2012 | #134 | |
lillypaddle | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
sarge43 | Nov 2012 | #20 | |
Mz Pip | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
dawg | Nov 2012 | #22 | |
libdem4life | Nov 2012 | #23 | |
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il_lilac | Nov 2012 | #24 | |
zaj | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
Post removed | Nov 2012 | #43 | |
stonecutter357 | Nov 2012 | #58 | |
librechik | Nov 2012 | #26 | |
Mira | Nov 2012 | #27 | |
Liberal In Red State | Nov 2012 | #28 | |
barbtries | Nov 2012 | #30 | |
Liberal In Red State | Nov 2012 | #31 | |
classof56 | Nov 2012 | #45 | |
jhrobbins | Nov 2012 | #145 | |
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agtcovert | Nov 2012 | #33 | |
hibbing | Nov 2012 | #34 | |
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2theleft | Nov 2012 | #40 | |
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N_E_1 for Tennis | Nov 2012 | #42 | |
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FailureToCommunicate | Nov 2012 | #46 | |
NCGardenGirl | Nov 2012 | #47 | |
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Uncle Joe | Nov 2012 | #49 | |
catbyte | Nov 2012 | #50 | |
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patrice | Nov 2012 | #52 | |
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Bernardo de La Paz | Nov 2012 | #57 | |
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zander77 | Nov 2012 | #61 | |
Melinda | Nov 2012 | #63 | |
flygal | Nov 2012 | #62 | |
Berlin Expat | Nov 2012 | #64 | |
Scootaloo | Nov 2012 | #65 | |
Doc Holliday | Nov 2012 | #77 | |
Scootaloo | Nov 2012 | #84 | |
BlueMTexpat | Nov 2012 | #67 | |
ffr | Nov 2012 | #69 | |
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jackpine Radical (45,274 posts)
1. Seriously on target.
This may be one of those teachable moments.
May I suggest that you submit this as an op-ed or LTTE & get it as much online circulation as you can. |
Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #1)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:21 AM
LostinRed (836 posts)
140. Agreed
Beautifully written
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:49 AM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
2. dawg. this is an excellent post. i am a voice along with yours.... thank you. nt
Response to dawg (Reply #13)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:41 PM
Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)
29. I concur with Jackpine and Sea. Get it out there.
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:49 AM
Glorfindel (9,130 posts)
3. That's very kind of you. You are a better person than I am.
I would like to think that some of the lurking conservatives might be convinced by your eloquence, but I doubt it. Nevertheless, you deserve great credit for your compassion and veracity, and I salute you.
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Response to Glorfindel (Reply #3)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:01 PM
ErikJ (6,335 posts)
102. Maybe some numbers might help.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:51 AM
txdemsftw (461 posts)
4. Very well said..
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:52 AM
Horse with no Name (33,939 posts)
5. Perfectn/t
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:53 AM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
6. Well put. A solid manifesto for a new liberalism. Watch out for the 'its'
(no apostrophe needed when indicating possession
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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #6)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:13 PM
dawg (10,552 posts)
12. Thanks.
I'm usually obsessive about things like that, but .....
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:59 AM
Tikki (14,377 posts)
7. Excellent dawg, We are Hardworking Americans who want to step ahead instead of lag behind....
stuck in some oligarchy and we want everyone to have that chance, also.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:03 PM
ieoeja (9,748 posts)
8. If the Liberal media lies then how could it get it right and the Conservative media get it so wrong?
Tried talking to someone about this last night, but he wasn't ready. He readily admitted to not understanding what happened. How could the supposedly Liberal media be correct and the Conservative media so completely, horribly wrong? Sadly, I'm sure the Conservative media will come up with a rationalization which their faithful can believe. Probably something along the lines of, "too many Conservatives skipped voting knowing there was no way in the world the American public could possibly re-elect that man." |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:06 PM
Tommy_Carcetti (42,263 posts)
9. He's your President, too.
And unlike your candidate, who proclaimed not to care about 47% of the country, I am confident that President Obama will work in the best interests of all Americans, both blue state and red.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:11 PM
PowerToThePeople (9,610 posts)
10. Bravo.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:44 PM
FSogol (44,370 posts)
14. The George Allen campaign was the perfect example of your post.
When he conceded to Tim Kaine last night, his audience was completely stunned and shocked. They had no idea they were losing or even trailing in the race. It was really strange.
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Response to FSogol (Reply #14)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:42 AM
Cha (286,323 posts)
144. You know it was the same with McCain's supporters in Arizona
when he lost. They looked Stunned..I couldn't figure out why they'd be so shocked. I'm understanding it now.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:45 PM
1gobluedem (6,664 posts)
15. Beautifully said
Thank you.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:47 PM
EnviroBat (5,290 posts)
16. One of the best, most grounded and honest posts I've read all day...
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:49 PM
slutticus (3,428 posts)
17. I like this. Very good.
But i disagree about why they were lied to. I think it is also because Fox news (and indeed the other mainstream news networks) work for profit instead of a genuine desire to report news and facts. They were had because they generate money for the networks, and in fact the networks (and the GOP masters) don't give a rat's ass about most of these people.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:50 PM
Dirty Socialist (3,068 posts)
18. Perhaps The Best Post I've Seen on DU
Good job!
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Response to Dirty Socialist (Reply #18)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:23 PM
reformist2 (9,841 posts)
56. +1000. The original post should be forwarded to as many Repubs as possible.
Response to reformist2 (Reply #56)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:23 PM
savebigbird (417 posts)
134. It should be made into a graphic and Facebooked!
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:52 PM
lillypaddle (9,525 posts)
19. Great OP
and dead on. Too bad they won't listen and believe.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:54 PM
sarge43 (28,744 posts)
20. Another thing, conservatives.
We're in this together. Ask yourselves why you're being told we're your enemy. As the first Republican president said, "[a] house divided against itself shall not stand."
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:58 PM
Mz Pip (26,953 posts)
21. I've been trying to find the words
You did it for me. This is perfect in content and tone.
May I use some of it? |
Response to Mz Pip (Reply #21)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:01 PM
dawg (10,552 posts)
22. Of course.
It's open source liberalism.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:10 PM
libdem4life (13,877 posts)
23. I love it when someone sums up my thoughts in writing. Thanks.
Also, sounds like someone...like myself...who has beloved family and friends who are conservative.
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Response to libdem4life (Reply #23)
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:29 PM
il_lilac (895 posts)
24. amazing and succinct
Thanks for writing this!
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:33 PM
zaj (3,433 posts)
25. The best post I've ever read on DU...
Response to zaj (Reply #25)
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Response to Post removed (Reply #43)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:26 PM
stonecutter357 (12,515 posts)
58. UMAD?
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:37 PM
Mira (22,264 posts)
27. This is a monumentally
well written, exact and honest post.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:40 PM
Liberal In Red State (439 posts)
28. AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:44 PM
barbtries (27,821 posts)
30. Thank you
that was really well done.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:45 PM
Liberal In Red State (439 posts)
31. Only one thing to add . . . If we are embolden now . . . It is to say this . . . We will no longer
tolerate, excuse or let you get away with the disrespect you have shown OUR PRESIDENT AND HIS FAMILY for the past four years! You will be called out . . . Challenged . . . Confronted from this day FORWARD!!! Because WE ARE AMERICA!!!!
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Response to Liberal In Red State (Reply #31)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:10 PM
classof56 (5,376 posts)
45. I like this! A lot!
Will add it to my list, along w/OP, to share with my Texas relative who has sent me more ugly anti-President Obama rhetoric than I can count during the last four years. Actually I have in response given her numerous reality checks, but sadly they have fallen on deaf ears. I'll keep trying--and thanks for giving me more ammo.
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Response to Liberal In Red State (Reply #31)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:28 AM
jhrobbins (1,633 posts)
145. Hear, hear!!
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:48 PM
TahitiNut (71,611 posts)
32. We believe life is a plus-sum game, NOT a zero-sum game.
When you play it as "win-lose" ... you get "lose-lose." (Nobody "wins" a war. Of any kind.) The sooner you actually comprehend this, the better you'll know what "liberal" actually means.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:48 PM
agtcovert (238 posts)
33. This puts into words exactly what I've been trying to quantify for myself today...
I've seen so many vitriolic posts on Facebook, heard so many snide comments about Americans being idiots and flushing the country down the toilet I marvel at the hatred seeping from those on the right.
There's a part of me that wants to absolutely gloat on Facebook given the number of arguments I've been in over the last 9-12 months. I haven't said a word though, and what you said here is why. I disagree with the positions/rationale/etc. of those on the right, but I don't hate them and I don't think their votes would've "flushed the country down the toilet." Thanks for posting this. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:50 PM
hibbing (9,692 posts)
34. Rock On!!
Hey,
Great post, the other party has tried to hijack so many things. Conservatives have been on the wrong side of history for decades. I am curious as to how the hell they are going to deal with the changing demographics of the country. I love America!! Peace |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:54 PM
StarryNite (8,758 posts)
36. Beautiful...
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:04 PM
Sheepshank (12,504 posts)
37. This was great.
can I ask if it's ok to repeat on FB Closed Debate Room? Giving credit, of course
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Response to dawg (Original post)
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Response to Post removed (Reply #38)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:37 PM
SammyWinstonJack (44,099 posts)
66. go away.
Response to SammyWinstonJack (Reply #66)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:14 PM
catrose (4,840 posts)
81. S/he did!
just flamed out. May all the trolls do so, and now.
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Response to Post removed (Reply #38)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:44 PM
kxm40 (46 posts)
68. If you believe in families, then tell people to stop making babies
Do you really know people like that? Sorry to offend, but sounds like something a racist would spout.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:05 PM
2theleft (1,136 posts)
40. Amazing. You hit the nail on the head. n/t
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:05 PM
apples and oranges (1,451 posts)
41. I don't think they're lurking
I think they're home in bed, with the lights dimmed and the TV and internet off. If the election had gone the other way, I wouldn't be online at all today, much less a RW site.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:06 PM
N_E_1 for Tennis (7,885 posts)
42. On target ..
With permission I will use this to quite my Red friends.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:07 PM
redstatebluegirl (12,173 posts)
44. Excellent!
You should send this to a major newspaper!
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:12 PM
FailureToCommunicate (13,455 posts)
46. And another thing: turn off FOX and hate radio and give the vitriol, and yourself, a rest.
Thanks, dawg, for a reasonable reaction.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:14 PM
NCGardenGirl (53 posts)
47. This is fantastic!
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:14 PM
garthranzz (1,330 posts)
48. Sharing far and wide
Beautifully, gently written
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:16 PM
Uncle Joe (55,593 posts)
49. A most excellent post.
Thanks for the thread, dawg.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:17 PM
catbyte (32,388 posts)
50. Very well said, dawg. We liberals are not hostile to religion, but we also respect non-religious
people and atheists because religion has no place in politics. The minute you pass a law based on your religious beliefs, chances are you have just trampled on my beliefs--or non-beliefs.
This deserves to go viral. Thanks again! And this will be the last time I post this sig line because WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!! Mom to Taz, Nigel, and baby sister Sammy, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division "Dogs Aren’t Luggage--HISS!” ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:19 PM
redqueen (112,669 posts)
51. Well said, dawg.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:19 PM
patrice (47,992 posts)
52. Perfectly and honestly said. Thanks!
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:21 PM
dorkzilla (5,141 posts)
55. Beautifully put!
Really really well said. I just posted it on my fb page, as it may make up for my obnoxious, drunken "in your face" posts I put up last night! Thanks, dawg!
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:23 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (45,552 posts)
57. Very well written. Very much needed to be said. Worth repeating. nt
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:27 PM
defacto7 (13,485 posts)
60. Great post!
Quite true. We are on the high road.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:28 PM
zander77 (2 posts)
61. WHY cant this be SHAREDon FACEBOOK
None of democratic underground stuff can actually be SHARED TO FACEBOOK Or is it just me and my computer?? I believe its you and YOUR IT/programers=can NOT share to facebook.
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Response to zander77 (Reply #61)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:33 PM
Melinda (5,465 posts)
63. You have one post, zander. You can't post to social media until you have at least 5,000.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:31 PM
flygal (3,231 posts)
62. I love this! Well said! nt
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:34 PM
Berlin Expat (943 posts)
64. Very well put.
Last night, as it became increasingly obvious that President Obama would be re-elected, I was lurking over at FR, Lucianne, Breitbart, RedState, etc. As much as I was (admittedly) tempted to post something to the effect of MOAR TEARS!!! I found myself feeling some genuine sympathy for them; it occurred to me when I could see that quite a few of the posters on these various sites realized they'd been "lied to" as you said.
I suppose it's simply natural human empathy to feel for someone who realizes they've been the mark in a swindle. One thing is for sure; people like Dick Morris, Michael Barone, etc., have completely lost whatever credibility they may have had the Movement Conservatives. And conservative lurkers, well, what can I say; it's the way the cookie crumbles. C'est la vie. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:36 PM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
65. I have no sympathy
Anyone intelligent enough to understand what you wrote, is someone intelligent enough to understand they just cast a ballot for a man who wants to destroy the structure of our nation so he can sell it off to a high bidder. Anyone who can't understand what you just said, did the same damn thing, so fuck them too.
I have no sympathy and i want no understanding. These cretins, these fucking traitorous scumbags can all line up to sniff my ass. I don't want to play nice with the people who have been working so very, very hard, and who came so very very close, to destroying this nation, relegating my friends and loved ones to second and third-class citizenship (if allowed even that) and who wanted to see my siblings die in a war with iran. FUCK THEM. To all lurking conservatives? I hope your fucking face rots off. |
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #65)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:43 PM
Doc Holliday (719 posts)
77. Scoot
I like your tagline. Isn't that from The Martian Chronicles?
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Response to Doc Holliday (Reply #77)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:27 PM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
84. Possibly; I picked it up from an Ayreon song, though. Forget which
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:43 PM
BlueMTexpat (15,166 posts)
67. Great OP, dawg!
Thanks so much for posting!
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:46 PM
ffr (22,144 posts)
69. At least one GOP bubble head got popped last night (his take)
The Difference
Jim Geraghty’s Morning Jolt said it best: Those Pollsters Were Right; We’re a Much More Democratic County, at Least in Presidential Years The exit polls indicate a 39 percent Democrat to 33 percent Republican split, only a percentage point behind 2008. I was incorrect in my skepticism that the electorate would be closer to D+3 or D+4. Nate Silver, take a bow. Public Policy Polling, your samples weren’t as wacky as I believed they were. The Obama campaign has put together a fantastic get-out-the-vote machine. <snip> Republicans need to confront the fact that because of demographics and a party infrastructure that has gotten very, very good at bringing out the vote in presidential years, Democrats are going to be very, very tough every four years. <snip> Ari Fleischer points out the silver lining is that so far, Romney is winning independents. That’s not a silver lining, that’s worse news: Democrats don’t really need independents anymore. BattleGroundWatch.com |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:47 PM
SleeplessinSoCal (7,968 posts)
70. We believe the writings of Ayn Rand have done great harm to our democratic system
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:49 PM
chknltl (10,558 posts)
71. They say that not every Republican is a racist but....
...every racist is a Republican. I don't think every misogynist is a Republican but I have little doubt most are, same holds true with the religious extremists. Great company you keep there huh? Proud of that?
Truth be told your party has cornered the market on the intolerant and the haters. Your news services have pandered to the haters and to the fearful which is why they flocked to your party. America is moving forward. We The People no longer wish to be ruled by the misogynists the racists the fear mongers and especially not the few ultra rich ultra greedy types who are destroying our democracy. Your party now has a choice: move to the left and work with us as we see to the needs of We The People, to creating real economic prosperity for all of us and to see to the very environment we all must live in...... .....or you can move further to the right with the haters and the fearful, the racists the misogynists, the religious extremists and the fascists who hate our democracy so much they openly suppressed the votes of over a million of our fellow Americans. You once parroted the saying: "You are either with us or you are with the terrorists." Well now, let me rephrase it: You are either with us or you are with the sickness. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 02:58 PM
ancianita (31,917 posts)
72. Many thanks for your attempt to unite us. Conservatives can be so distrustful.
Many of their hardcore will read this as either lecture, ploy, or 'reaching out.' They might rethink your plus-sum v. zero sum idea, however, and the wisdom of how 'we're all in this together' works so much better than 'everyone for himself'. We just have to keep reminding them that they'll survive and thrive if they just relax from outrage and move away from their toxic media and religionist judgments. I hope you send it everywhere.
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Response to ancianita (Reply #72)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:57 PM
Doctor_J (36,392 posts)
80. i don't want to unite with them
unless it means them coming to our way of thinking. We're far too "united" with them as it is thanks to the DLC
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:05 PM
bpj62 (879 posts)
73. post this on FB
I have had a hard time articulating how I feel today towards my friends on the right. I have such a sense of outrage over how they have treated us and our president these past four years. I am so tired of the word "liberal" being treated like it was a disease or the name of a terrorist. I have tried to be compassionate and fair to my friends on the right and what i have discovered is that many of them are sore losers and if you try to point out why Romney lost or that the right needs to work with the president they tell you that you are rubbing it in. We spent 8 years in the desert under Bush being called everything from unpatriotic to terrorists for ever questioning the Bush administration and yet this bunch has such a collective bit of amnesia. Sometimes I want to tell them to fuck off but that solves nothing. Your post says it all for me.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:11 PM
Hutzpa (11,461 posts)
74. Guess what
they'll ignore all of this by thinking it is ok to nominate Rubio and some other black person like Michael Steele because it shows ethnic minorities will join them just because they have these people in their midst.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:12 PM
Wind Dancer (3,618 posts)
75. Beautifully written!
K&R
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:43 PM
grahamhgreen (15,741 posts)
78. In fact, most of Rawmoney's talking points are lies. And Fox too.
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:56 PM
Doctor_J (36,392 posts)
79. Send it to HuffPo or Kos or ThinkProgress
I'd like to send the link to everyone I know.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:16 PM
schrodinger_I (706 posts)
82. Well put!
n/t
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:26 PM
BeHereNow (17,162 posts)
83. Excellent post, Dawg! n/t
bhn
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:37 PM
CanonRay (13,239 posts)
85. Awesome post, Dawg!
Can I re-post this to Facebook? It's too good not to share.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:42 PM
groundloop (11,129 posts)
86. I hope it's cool if I borrow parts of this to send to my right-wing friends
I'd been trying to find the right words to tell them the way it really is without starting a serious pissing contest. You've done way better than I ever could have.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:52 PM
The Doctor. (17,266 posts)
87. Damn.
Better than I could have said it. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:00 PM
BlueNoteSpecial (141 posts)
88. Nice post, but if they need sympathy, they can look it up...
...it's right there after shame, shit, and sycophant in Dan Websters book.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:02 PM
outsideworld (601 posts)
89. well stated .
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:18 PM
Harry_Scrote (121 posts)
91. Brother
Couldn't say it any better...
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:26 PM
chknltl (10,558 posts)
92. Thom Hartmann is reading THIS post live.
Right on!
Edited to add: He not only read it, he spent some time adding his opinion while reading it and when done he said that your post was brilliant Dawg! On a rare occasion I have heard fellow DUer Thom Hartmann coment on his show about a DU post, never once have I heard him fully read one....until now. More importantly, this is testimony that there are some powerful great thinkers posting and reading those posts in the mighty Democratic Underground! |
Response to chknltl (Reply #92)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:29 PM
BeHereNow (17,162 posts)
95. YES he did! Just heard it! GOOOOOOOO Dawg!
So happy Thom shared this with his viewers!
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Response to chknltl (Reply #92)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:00 PM
tpsbmam (3,927 posts)
101. Had just driven home and was in my driveway when Thom started reading this....
sat in my car to listen through the whole thing.
Well done, dawg! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:29 PM
WinkyDink (51,311 posts)
93. Well, good on ya, but I have no inclination to explain, define, or most importantly humble myself to
these greed-heads.
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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #93)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:27 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
111. It's the only way
seriously ...
Are "they" ALL going to hear this and convert to flaming Liberals? Of course not. But this is like clear clean water drip-dripping away to cleanse the poisons that were threatening to bury and sabotage this great nation. MLK Jr could have written this. The more "we" can let go of our own hatred and resentments, the better off the entire collective will become, because SOME will hear and melt inside, to see the world more clearly and humanely.. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:29 PM
ThomThom (1,486 posts)
94. Thom Hartmann read this post on the air just now
Well done dawg
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:29 PM
helderheid (38,039 posts)
96. Thom Hartmann just read this on the air. Well done!
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:30 PM
Hamlette (15,151 posts)
97. brilliant, beautiful, and well timed. thanks.
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:31 PM
liberalmuse (18,615 posts)
98. Thom Hartman read your rant on the air!
Congrats! He said it's rare that he'll read a rant on the air, but this was well done.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:33 PM
Erose999 (5,624 posts)
99. My most heartfelt sympathies to anyone who voted Romney/Ryan:
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Response to Erose999 (Reply #99)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:30 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
112. Dude? We WON the election. Get over it.
This kind of crap just feeds the Stupid in all of us.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:52 PM
loudsue (14,087 posts)
100. This needs to go viral.
I wish all my tea-bagger family and acquaintances could read this.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:01 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
103. True-truth dat, for me too. nt
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:04 PM
AuntPatsy (9,904 posts)
104. If intended for clear headed common sense individuals, there is no need of this, they are well aware
Of that truth but the sad reality is that the ones that need to hear this message will simply ignore it as more propaganda and mind controller coming from those nasty liberals...... Sad but nice letter regardless.
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Response to AuntPatsy (Reply #104)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:33 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
113. I thought it was Hope & Change?
not Cynicism & Close-mindedness?
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #113)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:39 PM
AuntPatsy (9,904 posts)
114. If your talking to me no cynicism nor close mindedness , I am surrounded by many, I promise you
I know the difference and the real underlying reason many will not change their minds, pure and simple, prejudice, not only against the President but any and all those who do not fit period......
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Response to AuntPatsy (Reply #114)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:58 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
117. Yes bigotry dies hard, and it's death isn't pretty
but it is a sure bet, that it eventually implodes in upon itself,
as it is self-destructive by its very nature, and was attempting to impose that self-destructive energy on the Collective. ![]() ![]() ![]() But 2012 didn't work out well for them.. This can become a major turning point for our species, evolutionarily speaking, but we lovers of truth and justice must lead the way, like MLK, RFK, et. al before us. Election 2012 = "GAME OVER!!" for the 1% IMHO |
Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #117)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:15 PM
AuntPatsy (9,904 posts)
118. Honestly, I try to reason, but after hearing so many derogatory racial remarks regardless of any
Valid reason for so many many years and from people you would believe knows better by now and especially in front of me I've lost faith enough older ones will ever change, they like "them" only when they know there place and behave in that sub servant manner.... In this day age even to myself who resides amongst them it still stuns me.... And saddens me, enrages me, all of the above...
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Response to AuntPatsy (Reply #118)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:36 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
122. At least we have time on our side ... tick-tock ...
regarding those "older ones" who may well never change,
they will simply all die off at some point. ![]() |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:05 PM
tilsammans (2,549 posts)
105. Bookmarked. Recommended. Kicked.
Heard about this post on Thom's show. It's everything he said it was.
Brilliant. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:17 PM
AnneD (15,774 posts)
107. My young daughter came under the influence of
her conservative Fox news watching grandparent when she was in high school. One weekend, on a bit of a whim, I took her up to Camp Casey out of Bush's ranchette. We helped at the first aid booth and met many many wonderful like minded liberals. Of course, there were many ultra conservatives.
The memory that stuck the most in my daughter's head was a car full of little grandmotherly ladies being called all kinds of vulgar, crude names by folks on the other side of the street. Their crime....they had a peace sticker with a little faded rainbow on their bumper. They drove carefully and their windows were rolled down. I an sure there ears were not spared. My daughter was so shocked at how ugly those bused in 'counter-protesters' were and how kind those heathen filthy liberals were. We didn't want for anything those three days at Camp Casey. It was like Woodstock, complete with the rain and mud, and the magic. It ignited the liberal spark in my daughter's heart. She realized that liberals come from a place of love and kindness, not fear and hatered as some conservatives are want to. She has never turned back. I think once some of these folks can release their fears, they can realize we are not that different in wanting the same things and that we can work together. The world is changing, We need to change with it if we are to survive. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:20 PM
99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)
108. I'm totally stealing this Dawg, with your permission of course
and you "Dawg on DU" will of course be credited with same.
This is a very well written and heart-felt gem. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:20 PM
AverageJoe (2,283 posts)
109. Kick!
Beautifully written, succinct, and true.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:22 PM
mgardener (1,627 posts)
110. Almost Perfect.
And they lied to you about climate change.
It's here, it's man made and we are going to have to make some tough decisions if we want to save the planet/save lives. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:55 PM
humbled_opinion (4,423 posts)
115. It is an excellent viewpoint
Last edited Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:11 PM - Edit history (1) and one that I ran by the teaheads that I work with today, here is their response....
must be real nice to be liberal. Liberals sure do seem to have all the answers, free healthcare, free obamaphones, welfare, WIC, Medicare and Medicaird, Social security no problems with any of these programs because the people already pay for them it's your money that you put in and the governmnet owes you that, so what if it runs up the debt, lets give more unemployment extensions, lets help all the poor, how about free internet, how about more subsidy for student loans, lets give more grants for education, we need more teachers and more schools and hell they need to be paid more and lets unionize all the city and state workers so they can force taxpayers to pay more for their salaries and pensions, etc, more inner city and youth social programs, more spending to help the homeless, lets help all the people, lets heal the planet lets have government issue carbon taxes and we can just replant the deforested areas, living wage for all, and we will do all this by taxing the rich, those evil rich don't pay their fair share now so by having the government tax them we will make sure they pay, right? and those rich won't find otherways to get the money back that government takes in taxation no they are evil but they know when they are outmatched by the government, they wouldn't dare increase the costs of the goods and services that they own the production of no, they wouldn't dare lay off workers or move jobs overseas to lower their costs and increase their profits, no certainly they will sit right here and eat the tax increase because they also must be taught that this will make us all a nice caring and loving society. Then this .... "You really don't have a clue that this country is 16 trillion in debt and the trajectory of the debt due to social spending is going to destroy our currency in the next 10-15 years, complete collapse of the American economy, you live in your liberal talking points that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is what caused the debt but you don't have a clue." Then they tell me to go to some website usdebtclock or something and say see for yourself what is happening..... So they pretty much are set in their ways and won't be trying to come together for the greater good anytime soon, I mean as far as supporting any type of social programs go... In fact one of them was spouting off how they think Obama is about to make a hard right turn politically to create some kind of Presidential legacy and that he is going to do exactly what the Republicans want him to do to deal with the debt.... All I said is don't count your chickens you were wrong about the polls too.... LOL |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jankyn (253 posts)
116. Thanks for citing as "open-source liberalism."
I've posted on FB, and credited to dawg on DU. This needs to get out there. Very good work.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:21 PM
alarimer (16,245 posts)
119. I think you are mostly spot-on.
I would quibble with two things:
I would instead say that there is more than one way to make a family, and also that we believe in the choice not to have a family at all. I would also say that we believe in freedom of religion, but also freedom FROM religion. Religion is for the private sphere, not the public. Atheist are equally moral and committed to making this country great and should be encouraged to serve openly in public life. There is no religious test for public office. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:27 PM
arthritisR_US (7,159 posts)
120. Thom Hartmann read some of your OP on his show today!
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:34 PM
Smickey (2,230 posts)
121. Ruff, bark ruf ruff.
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:17 PM
SDjack (1,448 posts)
124. Good job, Dawg. I know that my dimwitted RW relatives read DU
and will see this. So, here's a shout-out to them: You and your friends can leave your fort in the woods and return to your homes. Liberuls are not going to murder you and burn your homes for being racists -- that was a RW lie. Please go back to your homes.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:17 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
125. I like what you said but it is of no avail. Republicans are willfully ignorant. Emphasis on the
willful. They cant handle the truth. Climate Change for example. If you believe in CC then you must recognize that there is a lot of hard work ahead and it may affect our standard of living. For some it is sooo much nicer to live in the ignorance bubble.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:31 PM
DreWId (78 posts)
126. This is what I posted this morning on my own facebook page
To my conservative friends, let us work together:
To my pro-life friends, let's make contraceptive education available to everyone and let us work together so that all babies, infants, and toddlers have ease of access to comprehensive medical care. To my pro-gun friends, let us work together to de-stigmatize mental healthcare and expand access to such services. To my "Support the Troops" friends, let us work together to expand both physical and mental healthcare for our veterans and our troops, returning home and those serving abroad. Let war always be the last, somber course of action. To my friends at risk of foreclosure: let us reinstate Glass-Steigel and expand Dodd-Frank so that financial institutions cannot run rampant with our money, again. To my pro-oil friends: let us invest in renewable energy sources and a smart electricity grid so that not only will the United States be protected against foreign oil influence, but each one of us and our houses will be protected against large-scale blackouts and temporary inoperable neighborhood gas stations. To my budget-hawk friends: I agree with you! In order to get our deficit under control we need to set in place a comprehensive audit of our budget, recognize with unbiased eyes waste and redundancies that won't affect the quality or services provided, and understand that taxes are how we pay for things and those who are sharing less of the burden than others should pay equally. To my friends worried about jobs: We need to bring outsourced jobs back to the States and make sure those companies are paying all their employees fairly. Not only should our products be stamped with "Proudly made in the U.S.A." but also "Proudly made in" Delaware, Oklahoma, Alabama, Nebraska, or whichever state that product comes from. To my religious friends: let us work together to help the poor, the disenfranchised, the sick, and those the least among us. Your faith to you is grander than politics so don't get bogged down in the inner machinations of the country, but work compassionately with olive branch extended, not the sword. To my Republican friends: Let us work together to make our voices ring during times of election. Let us reinstate and strengthen McCain-Feingold, call for a Constitutional Amendment declaring 'natural citizenship' and reversing Citizens United. Let each voting district own their own voting machines instead of a private company and make sure the source code is open access. Nobody should be waiting in line for over an hour. Let us make it an actual constitutional right to be allowed to vote for President and Vice President. To all my friends: We are a nation of big ideas as well as freedom and individualism. We should not lose sight of the vision for a grander America. Those services we want to use we should have and those we don't use should be there if we decide to. It's not about the next bill, the next election, or the next 4 years, it's about what kind of country and responsibilities we want to pass on to our children. And always we should ask if our actions help expand our individual freedom. America can be greater but only if we all work together. |
Response to DreWId (Reply #126)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:44 AM
CJCRANE (18,184 posts)
154. This is also an excellent post. You should post it as its own OP. nt
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:16 PM
DCKit (18,541 posts)
128. If I were as big a dick as you, I would send this to my Republic family and friensds,
but i'm not.And I hoe your not.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:20 PM
crim son (27,415 posts)
129. You speak for me in this post.
Thank you.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:45 PM
Care Acutely (1,370 posts)
130. An absolutely perfect post.
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:53 PM
Observation Post (2 posts)
131. Tom Hartman Read This On Air
Dawg:
Heard this read on the air today. Excellent post. I look forward to more of your post in the future. Bob Mayberry (Observation Post) |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:10 PM
Amonester (11,541 posts)
132. "it would be best if every able-bodied working age person had a" paying-enough "job"
"We believe in hard work, and that it would be best if every able-bodied working age person had a" paying-enough, i.g., neither exploited, nor over-worked "job."
Sorry if I felt like I needed to add to that a little further (I am convinced that it's the way you meant to say it but it's too often just 'silently' implied and I wanted them to see it written down). K&R |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:18 PM
JNelson6563 (28,151 posts)
133. Superb post!
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:24 PM
DonRedwood (4,359 posts)
135. Dawg, that was one hellova post.
Response to dawg (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:44 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
136. Awesome post Dawg!!
People have been lied to, and manipulated with fear. We all want Truth and Justice for All, and if we are to work together, we have to identify the lies--and to identify who wishes to turn American on American.
Propaganda has done irreparable damage to this country, has divided families, communities and threatens to divide this country--We need a return of the Fairness Doctrine--so that we have true Freedom of the Press. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:04 AM
PatSeg (45,252 posts)
138. Wish every republican could and would read this
Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:14 AM
maindawg (1,151 posts)
139. ok well you get a little whiney
about believing and crap........
you can leave it at '[ we want to work' ] but hey , its on now. so here is what we will now say. welcome to civilization. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:10 AM
Douglas Carpenter (20,226 posts)
141. very good! knr
Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:40 AM
Cha (286,323 posts)
143. Thank you, dawg!
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:00 AM
ermasdaughter (85 posts)
146. Amazing post.
Well done..
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:08 AM
DiverDave (4,810 posts)
147. There is a reason there are so many rec's
for this.
You said exactly what needs to be said, and I wish this could be in every newspaper in America. It wont change the rabid right wing, but it would change the thinking,thoughtful republicans. There are some out there, I just wish they would stand up against the lunacy that's taken over their party. Very well written, you get a gold star for today. (First grade we would get them, I would stick mine on my forehead) |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:19 AM
msanthrope (37,549 posts)
149. Excellent post. nt
Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:22 AM
WilliamPitt (58,179 posts)
150. Posted to BuzzFlash.
Wonderful.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:06 AM
PotatoChip (3,186 posts)
152. Well said dawg!
I hope you will consider submitting this to your local, and other newspaper(s). It tells the truth w/out being condescending. Most people (particularly moderate types) are more willing to listen to points of view that perhaps are a bit left of theirs, if said POV's are communicated respectfully.
After all, we couldn't have pulled off the victories we saw on Tuesday, if it were not for these swing/centrist types. Now that we've got them, we want to keep them. (And perhaps even gently convert them over time. ![]() Your words set the right tone to do just that. Well done! ![]() |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:56 AM
looksbetterinblue (3 posts)
155. Thank you!
I've been lurking around DU for about 5 months now. I'm 20 and this was my first election. Icome from a very strong democratic family and they've always been very open to everyone's beliefs and let me make up my own mind. I tried to get my info from as many sources as possible to be fair to both sides. ill spare you guys my beliefs but I agree with most everything here. gay marriage, women's rights, healthcare.. etc. I'm a business student and I believe very much a strong economy is necessary to drive our country, I'm ashamed to admit I bought into the fear mongering and I voted with my fear and wallet instead of my heart and head. you guys seemed so calm but everyone else seemed so panicked and their ignorance just sucked me into that somehow the entire economy would explode the second Obama was re-elected. there was that moment. and I don't know if any of you have had it, when you realize you listened to chicken little and you feel like an idiot. your post caught my eye. I'm no conservative, but I knew what you were saying, and I'm so glad that you guys understand we make mistakes and that some people have to make that mistake just so they can feel stupid and learn from it
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Response to looksbetterinblue (Reply #155)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:08 PM
sunnystarr (2,638 posts)
158. No worries
we were all there once ... my first vote was for Nixon lol it took me a little time to learn the difference between Repubs and Dems and once I did I sure felt dumb. I've been true blue since and figured out that it was important to vote a straight Dem ticket from the top on down.
The cool thing was that I was able to educate my parents on the difference (we were immigrants and naturalized citizens) and they voted straight Dem after that as well! Welcome to DU!! |
Response to looksbetterinblue (Reply #155)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:58 PM
dawg (10,552 posts)
161. You're welcome.
For what it's worth, I went to business school myself, so I know what that culture is like.
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:55 AM
Turborama (22,109 posts)
156. Helloooo.... freepers, trolls, cave dwelllers?
Got anything to say about this?
Don't feel embarrassed. It's ok. We're good people and are very happy to accept your humble apologies. |
Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:00 PM
mstinamotorcity2 (1,451 posts)
157. They are not LISTENING!!!!!!!
They live in the Republican Bubble of Faux News!!!! While the world is changing they can only hear the noise in the Bubble!!!!! I will feel sorry for them when they feel sorry for lying and being ridiculous enough to be mislead,
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Response to mstinamotorcity2 (Reply #157)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:11 PM
will_in_chicago (202 posts)
159. In time, perhaps
They may not be listening now but some will likely try to figure out what went wrong. Some may see this post and reflect.
I would like to hope that there will be some Republicans who will question their parties policies and rhetoric. However, I fear that some at least are going to double down on their rhetoric. Particularly, I fear that the Tea Party members in the House and Senate will be as obstinate as they have been in the past two years. |
Response to will_in_chicago (Reply #159)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:22 PM
mstinamotorcity2 (1,451 posts)
160. As Long as the Republican Party Platform
has cemented the door shut to the no knowledge in please Republican Bubble, they will be this way!!! The longer they are this way the much more diverse, strong,and receptive of change, the Democratic party becomes!!! I like that thought!!!!
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:46 PM
jenlucu (29 posts)
162. Love this
Expressed exactly what I have been thinking!
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Response to dawg (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:55 PM
LittleBlue (10,362 posts)
163. That's it in a nutshell
Great post
+1 and rec |