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nightwing1240

(1,996 posts)
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 09:35 AM Dec 2022

Something to get off my chest

Part of the problem we have these days as to being able to get along with others, get things done and, improve our lives is that
millions of people live in fear that something they say do or in this case write will injure someones feelings. I don't know about you but it is becoming exhausting. I'm not talking about people blurting out insensitive rude or mean things to others there is never a time or place where that should be acceptable. But certain criticisms over simple thoughts where someone is trying to shed light on bad behavior or merely pointing something out or sharing a story good or bad, is unwarranted.

There is nothing wrong with being politically correct and thinking before you speak or post. But is it fair to point out something that may have been left out unintended and pounce on the person that said it? I am sure many of you have seen or been the recipient of such thoughts. I know I have seen it countless times over the years on DU let alone socially with others. If someone is a victim of a hateful act, who do you feel worse for and want to protect? The victim or the perpetrator? I had one such post today where someone took me to task regarding the perpetrator receiving threats for what they had done. Well, excuse me but had that person not done such a vile racist thing, she would not be receiving those threats. Another took me to task for not including girls in the Priest/molestation scandal. I am sorry but the predominant victims of that scandal was boys.

Perhaps you get my point, perhaps you don't. There are countless good people on this board and I am proud to be among you. If something I post needs correcting or your thoughts added to it I have no issue with that and I welcome all comments. No one has all the answers, myself included. Let's please be less judgmental and critical of each other. The republicans do that enough to us as it is. Thank you for your consideration.

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Something to get off my chest (Original Post) nightwing1240 Dec 2022 OP
Just had one of those occasions. gibraltar72 Dec 2022 #1
I knew I am not alone on this nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #3
As the old expression goes, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. Firestorm49 Dec 2022 #22
I don't care anymore, I just say what I know is the truth. And Meadowoak Dec 2022 #2
Amen nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #4
Ditto. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2022 #6
Amen HAB911 Dec 2022 #5
What makes the Democratic party gab13by13 Dec 2022 #7
Amen. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2022 #9
True. Note that Democrats in Congress sometimes cast votes that Mr.Bill Dec 2022 #32
Millions of people? Living in fear? Huh. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #8
You are unafraid to say something that may upset someone? nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #10
"Afraid" doesn't really come into it. If I am unsure whether something I'm about to say might hurt WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #13
Thank you obamanut2012 Dec 2022 #35
I'd say many millions of people live in fear AntivaxHunters Dec 2022 #12
Exactly, and unfortunately girls have been wiped obamanut2012 Dec 2022 #34
So what if you piss someone off malaise Dec 2022 #11
Thank you! nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #15
Agree! True Blue American Dec 2022 #17
Agree malaise Dec 2022 #20
Same here! True Blue American Dec 2022 #23
Relativism in the face of facts, logic, reasoning, and truth, gives MAGA delusions room to spread bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #14
I get your point. True Blue American Dec 2022 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Bettie Dec 2022 #18
Bullies are sometimes the self-righteous kind. BComplex Dec 2022 #19
Generally for me, it boils down to: LuckyCharms Dec 2022 #21
Self depreciating humor True Blue American Dec 2022 #24
Congratulations on your posting milestone. niyad Dec 2022 #25
Thank you :) nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #26
My favorite is when the thought police try to restrict what we call Republicans BannonsLiver Dec 2022 #27
Regarding the poster who added that girls were also hurt by priests. sl8 Dec 2022 #28
You can't please everyone, especially certain folks who act as self-appointed hall monitors dalton99a Dec 2022 #29
No, the predominant victims of priest abuse WERE NOT boys Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #30
Link? BannonsLiver Dec 2022 #33
Thank you nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #37
No prob. Not a fan of gaslighting. BannonsLiver Dec 2022 #39
Yup, as were adult women obamanut2012 Dec 2022 #36
I said something negative about Public Defenders Mr.Bill Dec 2022 #31
you are welcome nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #38

gibraltar72

(7,505 posts)
1. Just had one of those occasions.
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 09:40 AM
Dec 2022

Posted something that offended someone. They didn't address me directly but posted two things about why you shouldn't use the phrase. Simply replied "tis a rare day I don't piss off someone.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
22. As the old expression goes, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 11:09 AM
Dec 2022

On a site such as this, with broad support and membership, there will be countless varying opinions on any given fact. Some may be valid and researched, others may just be “shoot from the hip” opinions. As aggravating as it may sometimes be, our diverse audience here on DU is bound to have disputes within the ranks. Some of us are lawyers who are more informed with legalities, while people like myself are just out there to share a thought - well conceived or not.

Fear not, nightwing1240, you’re among friends. Keep up your opining. Diversity of thought and ideas is what makes us unite on common ground, although some of that ground may be unsettling.

Meadowoak

(5,546 posts)
2. I don't care anymore, I just say what I know is the truth. And
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 09:41 AM
Dec 2022

If someone doesn't like it, fuck them and the horse they rode in on.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,385 posts)
6. Ditto.
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 09:44 AM
Dec 2022

I'm at the age where I don't give 2 pennies if people get offended by some of the things I have to say, I just don't care anymore.

gab13by13

(21,349 posts)
7. What makes the Democratic party
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 09:47 AM
Dec 2022

and Democrats in general, special, is our ability to have rigorous debates with one another on issues. As long as we debate the issue itself and not make the debate personal, that is what sets us apart from the programmed Magat zombies who are told what to think by Fox News.

I graduated from college in 1969 and my #1 takeaway from college was not to blindly believe what I read in the newspaper or see on TV. I am down to only watching Nicolle Wallace on TV and listening to Zerlina Maxwell, Stephanie Miller, and Thom Hartmann. I will watch Mehdi Hasan.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
32. True. Note that Democrats in Congress sometimes cast votes that
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 03:26 PM
Dec 2022

dissent from the majority while republicans vote in absolute lockstep as if someone had a gun pointed at them.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
8. Millions of people? Living in fear? Huh.
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 09:48 AM
Dec 2022
Another took me to task for not including girls in the Priest/molestation scandal. I am sorry but the predominant victims of that scandal was boys.


"Girls were also victims" is hardly being taken to task. It's adding to the discussion on a discussion board.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
13. "Afraid" doesn't really come into it. If I am unsure whether something I'm about to say might hurt
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 09:55 AM
Dec 2022

people I care about, I either do some research on it or say it and then listen to their response. If I'm unsure whether something I'm about to say might upset someone in power who needs to be upset, "afraid" is not in the criteria that goes into whether I say it or not.

"girls" was not left out intentionally. smh


And "girls were also victims" doesn't imply that it was.
 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
12. I'd say many millions of people live in fear
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 09:54 AM
Dec 2022

Unless you're speaking specifically about the issues you highlighted alone

malaise

(269,022 posts)
11. So what if you piss someone off
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 09:54 AM
Dec 2022

You are posting your view of things. I try not to break DU rules and to be polite and civil, but everything I post is from my perspective. If that pisses off some people. so be it.
Happy New Year

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
14. Relativism in the face of facts, logic, reasoning, and truth, gives MAGA delusions room to spread
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 09:57 AM
Dec 2022

That's how we got to this point in history. Let's reject those Q-thinking methods and stick to what's been working since pre-civilization.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
16. I get your point.
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 10:36 AM
Dec 2022

Last edited Sat Dec 31, 2022, 12:19 PM - Edit history (1)

After listening to 2 women who are sick to death of the divisions into small groups. One is a College student, the other a middle aged Professional woman. They just want people to be equal!

The College student was a soccer star who was accepted to West Point. She left because of the constant lectures on race plus the unfairness of the whole class being disciplined if 1 made a mistake.. she is very disciplined and is quite happy in another ollege.

Both are dark skinned. Both highly intelligent. They want the anger and division to stop.

Response to nightwing1240 (Original post)

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
19. Bullies are sometimes the self-righteous kind.
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 10:52 AM
Dec 2022

They're usually coming from a place of pain from bad experiences, but they haven't learned to explain their point of view about that topic from a more civil, less angry, frame of mind. I've seen it before on DU, and I usually just get off the thread as soon as that starts.

LuckyCharms

(17,441 posts)
21. Generally for me, it boils down to:
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 11:07 AM
Dec 2022

Be polite to someone until they are impolite to you.

I try to be polite always, but being human, I fail sometimes.

If I feel I want to retaliate verbally or in writing, I try to inject some humor.

But in the end, not everyone is going to like me (or anyone), no matter how I behave.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
27. My favorite is when the thought police try to restrict what we call Republicans
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 02:51 PM
Dec 2022

The point you made about someone going apeshit because you didn’t include girls in the catholic abuse scandal is a terrific example as well.

Pointing out things like the fact that Trump is very fat or the fact Kimberly Guilfoyle is a hideous looking hell beast are also frowned upon.

sl8

(13,781 posts)
28. Regarding the poster who added that girls were also hurt by priests.
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 02:54 PM
Dec 2022

It sounds like they hurt your feelings.

Should they have not posted that out of fear of hurting your feelings? It seems inconsistent with your premise.

dalton99a

(81,513 posts)
29. You can't please everyone, especially certain folks who act as self-appointed hall monitors
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 03:00 PM
Dec 2022

Heck, I suspect some of the PC police on here are not even Democrats

Ignore them


 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
30. No, the predominant victims of priest abuse WERE NOT boys
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 03:04 PM
Dec 2022

The more PUBLICIZED incidents were of boys, but girls were molested at equivalent rates. It's just that nobody cares about them getting molested the way they do when it's little white boys.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
33. Link?
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 03:27 PM
Dec 2022

On edit i found a link:

In the case of the priest scandal, boys were the victims of sexual misconduct much more often than girls, by a factor of about four to one, says Margaret Leland Smith of John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

https://www.newsweek.com/sex-abuse-church-girls-also-victimized-70741?amp=1

Here’s another source that says you’re wrong:

Priests abused more male than female victims and had significantly greater access to male youth historically.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22809048/





obamanut2012

(26,079 posts)
36. Yup, as were adult women
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 03:41 PM
Dec 2022

I worked with a woman in Virginia who had been exploited, groomed, and sexually assaulted and used when she went to her parish priest for...... ready for it?

Her husband abusing her.

This happened in the late 90s. She doubted she was the only one.

It is not new or atypical to have girls sexualized and groomed. But it was so scandalous when the victims were not heteronormative ie boys and young men. That was homosexual and unnatural.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
31. I said something negative about Public Defenders
Sat Dec 31, 2022, 03:21 PM
Dec 2022

and immediatel someone demanded that I delete it because Joe Biden was once a Public Defender. I mean really? I was a car salesman for awhile years ago. Should I demand that all negative posts about car salesmen be deleted?

Thank you, OP, for bringing this up.

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