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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWeismann and Katyal TFG WILL BE INDICTED in GA. Strongest language yet from them
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on Lawrence last night with Weismann going so far as saying he is now in the "prediction business" and setting the 24th of this month or right after as the date. Weismann also reiterated the point that TFG, if convicted on any state charges, cannot ever receive a federal executive pardon.
Katyal agreed that the indictments in GA will be quickly forthcoming and followed up that along with the expected GA indictments as read "in the tea leaves" presented by DA Willis' investigation progress yesterday it will, in his opinion, provide the final piece in the foundation necessary for Jack Smith to begin bringing Federal indictments and he expects them along side the GA case. I might add Katyal has been one of the legal scholars to be more openly critical of the length of time some of this has taken.
Also after that exchange with LD they go on to absolutely annihilate the fantasy of the new House majority to try and subpoena the DOJ in any attempt to investigate ongoing DOJ investigations. Both reminding all of us that any action as such would be a direct violation of the separation of powers and the act has been tried before and the DOJ would have standing in refusing any such subpoenas. Katyal almost dared them to try and said even this SCOTUS would prevent them from doing so if need be. He said it quite forcefully, for him anyway lol.
I have never heard either of these distinguished gentleman speak with this much certainty on charges being brought, finally, against this pathetic excuse for an American. Both have always chosen their words carefully stopping just short of implying certainty in this matter until now. I was very, and pleasantly, surprised. Their comments combined with the fast actions and recent subpoenas by Smith since his return from Europe along with the completion of duty and adjournment of DA Willis' investigative Grand Jury in GA and the re-opening of false elector investigations today in MI make me feel more confident than ever the Justice train for this fuck and his slimy cohorts is now rolling full steam ahead and these indictments will happen very very soon.
I'll also add MSNBC didn't add any of this interview to their collection of youtube clips from their shows on their youtube channel. None of this was even in their usual condensed show re-cap. They just showed discussions of the classified document no story crap. Very disappointing. So I included the clip below with, at least for me, the most important political news discussion yesterday, maybe in a good while.
For the impatient 17:25 - 26:30 is the pertinent discussion and then they and Moss put a fork into the classified document malarkey( ) to end the clip.
mobeau69
(11,139 posts)but a puke governer could.
Jerry2144
(2,096 posts)But would he? If he is thinking of running for President, he can refuse to pardon, use this as an excuse to further distance from the Tamarind Tyrant (or Ochre Ogre), take the Korrupt Korpulent Koprolite out of the race, and say hest tough on crime committed by anyone.
I think Kelp would probably let his indictment proceed as far as the court system allows. It serves his interests better than a pardon does
PJMcK
(22,025 posts)
is an admission of guilt according to SCOTUS.
Trump would be accepting responsibility if he accepts a pardon.
Justice matters.
(6,925 posts)He will probably take the slap-on-the-wrist sentence and get out for good behavior early, while whining endlessly about being innocent, just a martyr of the showshialist witch hunt against him.
M$M corporations will want to visit him on a daily basis and advertise his fake martyrdom as part of his campaign for the GQP's nomination... and the QAnon dummies will 'pray' for him (and whine) every breath they take... His co-conspirators, though... I don't know (yet).
The Jack Smith cases, though, hopefully will come soon after (or during his prison stay) and the NY State cases too. The IRS might want to examine his fraudulent returns (all made-up numbers).
Cheezoholic
(2,016 posts)Model35mech
(1,525 posts)I don't know why we do this to ourselves.
Isn't it possible to just be patient?
JanMichael
(24,881 posts)FakeNoose
(32,620 posts)... he can never receive a federal executive pardon. A state governor could presumably pardon him though...
Will a state criminal conviction be enough to exclude him from running for President again? I certainly hope so.
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)No, State conviction would have no effect on running for President...
Cheezoholic
(2,016 posts)but yeah as said wouldn't preclude from federal office.
https://ccresourcecenter.org/state-restoration-profiles/georgia-restoration-of-rights-pardon-expungement-sealing/#II_Pardon_policy_practice
NoMoreRepugs
(9,404 posts)oregonjen
(3,335 posts)Blue Owl
(50,347 posts)sarisataka
(18,570 posts)"24th of this month" meant January 2023?