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Funtatlaguy

(10,890 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 05:12 PM Jan 2023

Was it worth it to the GreedOverPatriotism people in America.

Much has been said and written about how the decline happened.
A right wing media framework that started with Rush and the Rush imitators on radio.
Then, of course, Fox News on tv and Breitbart online, etc. etc.
Lying, manipulating, and manufacturing political scenarios and propaganda to create a good vs evil, us vs them narrative.
They made a lot of money to destroy our two party system.
They got a lot of power.
They got (in their minds) a lot of prestige.
And they offered their followers the moral high ground constantly berating what was once properly called “the loyal opposition”. For their lies and campaigns of disinformation to work, they had to appeal to the very worst in humanity. Use what they saw as outright and latent bigotry from at least 40% of the population to Make those with different skin colors, sexuality, religions or no religion, etc. into horrible (not just different) people.
Their goal was to make Democrats and the Democratic Party into something horrendously vile rather than just a different way of governing but still with the same goals of a prosperous USA.

So, they got what they wanted.
They got their two Americas.
But they won’t stop there. They now want only one.
A white nationalist evangelical theocracy run by an autocracy.
I’m not sure how that can be avoided.
So, I have gone back and rewatched all of the Handmaids Tale episodes.
Will America become Gilead in 20, 30, or 40 years?
I no longer see this as an impossibility.
I hate these people for ruining my country.

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Walleye

(31,101 posts)
3. Like antifa, mythical. It's funny the proud boys thought they would be fighting antifa on January 6
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 05:16 PM
Jan 2023

There’s a real danger in believing your own bullshit

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
10. Depends where one lives and the size of the Antifa cells in one's community.
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 09:04 PM
Jan 2023

They stir a hell of a lot of shit in some places.

For example, the progressive mayor of Berkeley, one of America's most progressive cities, has called for Antifa to be declared a violent criminal gang, and therefore subject to CA's anti-gang laws due to their violence.

These are not fans of liberal democracy.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
12. I lived in Berkeley. Antifa created a lot of violent chaos there.
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 09:09 PM
Jan 2023

People at legitimate protests absolutely hated it when Antifa showed up. They are bad news.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
14. Merifully, they are few in number.
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 09:15 PM
Jan 2023

They don't like liberal democracy or the Democratic Party anymore than the much larger MAGA army does, however.

Those who know them, understand they are bad news.

durablend

(7,466 posts)
9. And big business...
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 08:46 PM
Jan 2023

Relentlessly complains that workers have no business getting that half a cookie ("NOBODY WANTS TO WORK!" )

pwb

(11,294 posts)
7. America has always been great.
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 08:20 PM
Jan 2023

Fuck them that think and say other. Freedom and Liberty is for all. Judgment comes back to those who do.

GoodRaisin

(8,930 posts)
15. Yes, absolutely. Those people don't give a damn about the trail of corpses they leave behind
Sun Jan 15, 2023, 09:18 PM
Jan 2023

as long as they keep raking it in for themselves.

That much should be pretty clear to everyone by now. It isn’t, but it should be.

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