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senseandsensibility

(17,026 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:25 PM Jan 2023

I have to say, the latest shooting in Half Moon Bay

is hitting me hard. Not only because it's in my backyard (California's Central Coast, or God's Country as Steinbeck called it) but because of the victims. They were migrant farm workers. This is a group of people constantly taken for granted and taken advantage of. They live in the shadows, and yet without them we would literally starve.

Their lives are incredibly hard. Here in California, we just came out of a period of torrential rains and flooding. These farmworkers and their families bore the brunt of it because they often live in substandard housing.

We in California have strict gun laws and we try to protect each other. But until we have uniform gun laws in this country, we will never prevent these tragedies.

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I have to say, the latest shooting in Half Moon Bay (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jan 2023 OP
At some point most of the US will have PTSD from gun violence. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #1
LIHOP Marthe48 Jan 2023 #2
Every mass shooting is a free marketing event for the gun industry. Demobrat Jan 2023 #4
Some, at least the ramped-up hate-filled rhetoric, is more MIHOP. niyad Jan 2023 #8
I was thinking of that after I posted Marthe48 Jan 2023 #11
Thank You For This ConstanceCee Jan 2023 #3
Thank you. senseandsensibility Jan 2023 #17
We need so much more than gun laws. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2023 #5
It's actually hard to keep up with all these. usonian Jan 2023 #6
It's only the mass shootings that we usually hear about. OMGWTF Jan 2023 #7
Exactly. Mass shootings, at leadt the list I check, is 4 or more dead or wounded, niyad Jan 2023 #9
Mother Jones data counts mass shootings as three or more victims since 2013 mnhtnbb Jan 2023 #16
Mother Jones data is about three or more killed. It does not include the niyad Jan 2023 #18
Mother Jones database includes injured mnhtnbb Jan 2023 #19
We had 22,900 murders in 2021 Elessar Zappa Jan 2023 #10
All the shootings in Chicago EVERY weekend Raine Jan 2023 #13
flooding 2 weeks ago BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 2023 #12
Thank you so much. senseandsensibility Jan 2023 #14
agree republianmushroom Jan 2023 #15
Also there are judges in California that need are gun humpers we need to get rid of also. msfiddlestix Jan 2023 #20

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
1. At some point most of the US will have PTSD from gun violence.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:29 PM
Jan 2023

Either people we know or just the trauma of seeing all the deaths around us.

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
2. LIHOP
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 06:36 PM
Jan 2023

Every single gun death: gunhumpers LIHOP, nra LIHOP, r's LIHOP, and the unelected despots on the (formerly) supreme court of the U.S. LIHOP.

Every single gun death: they LIHOP.

(Let it Happen on Purpose)

Demobrat

(8,976 posts)
4. Every mass shooting is a free marketing event for the gun industry.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 07:05 PM
Jan 2023

The response is ALWAYS buy more guns. And it always works. They don’t even have to pay for advertising - just piggyback on the next shooting.

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
11. I was thinking of that after I posted
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 09:51 PM
Jan 2023

It is a better description of the enabling from all the people aiding abetting every murder, every gun death.

senseandsensibility

(17,026 posts)
17. Thank you.
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 08:26 PM
Jan 2023

The local news in my area has broadcast some excruciating details. It's hitting our community hard, but it is shining some much needed light on the plight of these workers and the need for national gun laws.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
5. We need so much more than gun laws.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 07:15 PM
Jan 2023

We need to educate everyone on the value of laws and the harm caused by abuse of laws via loopholes and wealth.

I've come to believe that most of our problems stem from "trickle-down-economics".

We also need to force the news media to be more responsible. Or pay for their abuse.

OMGWTF

(3,955 posts)
7. It's only the mass shootings that we usually hear about.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 08:37 PM
Jan 2023

IIRC, that means there had to be at least four people shot. How many instances are not taken into account that involved three or fewer people that we don't hear about?

If I wasn't already living here, I would never come here. This place is becoming a third world country. Thanks to Rethuglicans and their Billionaire Overlords.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
9. Exactly. Mass shootings, at leadt the list I check, is 4 or more dead or wounded,
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 09:01 PM
Jan 2023

including the gunman. The daily toll of all the others is enormous.

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
16. Mother Jones data counts mass shootings as three or more victims since 2013
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 06:28 PM
Jan 2023
In January 2013, a mandate for federal investigation of mass shootings authorized by President Barack Obama lowered that baseline to three or more victims killed. Accordingly, we include attacks dating from January 2013 in which three or more victims were killed. (Any analysis of the frequency of mass shootings using our database should account for this.) Our original analysis, which covers cases from 1982-2012 with four or more victims killed, follows below. The cases we’ve documented since then using the revised federal baseline reaffirm our major analytical findings.


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map/

niyad

(113,284 posts)
18. Mother Jones data is about three or more killed. It does not include the
Thu Jan 26, 2023, 09:31 AM
Jan 2023

wounded, or the gunman, from what I could see.

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
19. Mother Jones database includes injured
Thu Jan 26, 2023, 10:52 AM
Jan 2023

as well as fatalities.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/

Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies

Elessar Zappa

(13,975 posts)
10. We had 22,900 murders in 2021
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 09:05 PM
Jan 2023

So that’s almost 63 murders a day. And that’s way down from the 70s-90s! We’re a very violent society, awash in guns.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
20. Also there are judges in California that need are gun humpers we need to get rid of also.
Thu Jan 26, 2023, 11:07 AM
Jan 2023

e year or two ago, a judge in San Diego district dismissed illegal automatic weapons charges on a Jan 6 nut job extremist. Can't remembrer if he was Oath Keeper, or a 3 percenter, or nazi boogaloo. they're all the same to me really.

These sympathetic judges need to be removed.





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