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Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:35 PM

Jeff Tiedrich tweet about debt ceiling and threatened Social Security cuts:

holy fucking shit, Donald Trump's tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy are responsible for a QUARTER OF OUR NATION'S ENTIRE DEBT and Republicans want to cut YOUR social security to pay for it, and that's what this debt ceiling bullshit is all about. fucking unacceptable


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Reply Jeff Tiedrich tweet about debt ceiling and threatened Social Security cuts: (Original post)
tblue37 Jan 25 OP
Lovie777 Jan 25 #1
housecat Jan 25 #3
Rebl2 Jan 25 #4
HUAJIAO Jan 25 #17
rurallib Jan 25 #20
HUAJIAO Jan 25 #23
rurallib Jan 25 #27
orleans Jan 26 #35
markodochartaigh Jan 25 #30
calimary Jan 25 #24
HUAJIAO Jan 25 #25
soldierant Jan 25 #31
calimary Jan 26 #34
soldierant Friday #38
soldierant Friday #39
2naSalit Jan 25 #2
kimbutgar Jan 25 #5
Bayard Jan 25 #6
Cha Jan 25 #7
Irish_Dem Jan 25 #8
Bluethroughu Jan 25 #9
HUAJIAO Jan 25 #18
dchill Jan 25 #10
Mr. Ected Jan 25 #11
KS Toronado Jan 25 #12
Takket Jan 25 #13
IronLionZion Jan 25 #14
Skittles Jan 25 #19
Wounded Bear Jan 25 #15
3825-87867 Jan 25 #16
EmmaLee E Jan 25 #22
republianmushroom Jan 25 #21
Caliman73 Jan 25 #26
Beartracks Jan 25 #28
Deuxcents Jan 26 #32
Rhiannon12866 Jan 25 #29
pansypoo53219 Jan 26 #33
yardwork Jan 26 #36
StClone Jan 26 #37

Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 12:43 PM

1. Say it louder................

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Response to Lovie777 (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:10 PM

3. often. campaign ads.

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Response to Lovie777 (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:11 PM

4. And every day

Democrats in congress!!! They need to talk more about it!

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 03:22 PM

17. Unfortunately Dems too often don't do communication well.

They re just not generally good at PR. Been saying this for years. Any decent advertising company could do better. We have all the good ideas but.....

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Response to HUAJIAO (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 04:37 PM

20. I think it is more due to the fact that Republicans own almost all the media

so when Dems what little media coverage they do get, it is not friendly.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 05:41 PM

23. That is also very true. So how to get around the media, or through.

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Response to HUAJIAO (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 06:34 PM

27. We need to have some folks with money invest the way the

right wingers did. But the motivation for Dems is not there.

Thom Hartmann did a great sub stack newsletter on this today:

https://hartmannreport.com/p/a-media-ceiling-is-about-to-fall?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

So I don't know. I tried to buy some radio stations many years ago and could get no backing from liberals or labor unions. For some reason our side sees no value in owning the printing press.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 26, 2023, 02:58 AM

35. i heard him talking about buying radio stations in part of his show

today (wednesday). he brings up the subject every once in awhile
today i heard something about how we need to acquire some spanish stations--how even a few could make a difference.

i really don't understand why dems with money don't see how talk radio could make a difference.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 10:05 PM

30. "...when Dems what little media coverage they do get, it is not friendly."

President Biden could receive The Galactic Medal of Peace from the President of the Galactic Federation on the Whitehouse lawn and most US media would lead with "Democrats new friends ruin Whitehouse lawn."

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Response to HUAJIAO (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 05:51 PM

24. I've been complaining about that for a long time.

I donít know if they appreciate the full power and importance of MESSAGING. Even now. I hope Iím wrong. I hope they realize how important effective messaging is.

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Response to calimary (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 05:53 PM

25. Unfortunately, I believe you are right and they don't have a clue.

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Response to calimary (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 10:58 PM

31. Oh, I think they understand how important messaging is.

What they don't understand is how to get effective messaging through to the people who need to see and hear it, who are insulated from it by right wing media propaganda and main stream media bothsiderism. Frankly, I don't have a clue how to do that either. Do you? Even if we had the money to buy a huge network and message effectively on it, and even if we had a way to get people who need the message to tune in to it, it appears to me we would be utterly drowned out.

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Response to soldierant (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 26, 2023, 02:21 AM

34. I wonder what would happen if some wealthy Dems or Dem group were to purchase

a BIG ad buy on Pox Noise. Unavoidably big. Splattering all over every daypart. Unescapable. Unignorable. And so big and splashy that they can't help but watch. Maybe have Spielberg or some very prominent film director mastermind it. And sneak the message in, in ways that Republicans find acceptable. Until the ad finishes and they suddenly "wake up" and realize they've been nodding along appreciatively to OUR messaging instead of the GOP's. Start with a pithy Abraham Lincoln quote and attribution that reminds - um, hey kids, HE was a Republican. But he talked, messaged, led, and cared like a DEMOCRAT.

I long to trouble and disquiet and destabilize the enemy. Render them all mixed up about what they stand for and who to vote for. ROCK their world and shake up their comfort zone. . Encourage and provoke them into thinking "Oh shit - I can't believe I wanna vote for a Democrat..."

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Response to calimary (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 27, 2023, 12:09 AM

38. That would be lovely.

But Fox has a history of turning down ad buys which do not fit their narrative. Maybe if someone they would trust would sell it to them, sight unseen - but how do you do that?

And there's also the humanly natural tendency to reject any information which conflicts with what one already believes, and which is at its strongest in the poorly educated and uneducated. You and I are likely capable of saying "Gee, maybe I've been wrong." MAGAts not so much. I'm not 100% certain that, if we could manage that kind of an ad buy (and if the powers at Fox allowed it to continue to run after seeing the first segment) that there wouldn't be riots in the streets.

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Response to calimary (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 27, 2023, 02:17 PM

39. I don't know how well this is going to work,

because it hasn't been tried beforeBut it does suggest that top Dems are iin fact tryng.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-democratic-swat-team-combating-the-gops-joe-biden-probes

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:05 PM

2. And there it is.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:13 PM

5. Giant billboards should be put up in repukes areas saying these words exactly

But leave out the bad words !

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:24 PM

6. Big K&R

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:30 PM

7. Keep your GD hands OFF

Our SS, Fucking magats.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:31 PM

8. The Oligarchs and GOP believe that all US assets belong to them.

Like in Russia where Putin stole most of Russia's wealth.

That is what is being done here in the US.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:37 PM

9. Boom there it is!



Somebody needs to put that into an ad on the internet and fox News stations

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Response to Bluethroughu (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 03:23 PM

18. Somebody yes. I agree. But who will actually do it ??

Don't hold your breath,

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:43 PM

10. K&R!

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:06 PM

11. This was the long play they had in mind the entire time

Damn, even though we kicked their asses in the midterms we didn't bloody them and leave them for dead and this is our reward.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:40 PM

12. Thanks for printing the tweet !

Posters used to be able to post tweets so we could read them, now it's always a "Link to tweet"

Did twitter redo their site to stop people from sharing information found there? Thanks to the new owner?

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:43 PM

13. Tweets still load for me.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:53 PM

14. Their elderly voters don't like social security and medicare?

I would think plenty of them are relying on it more than tax cuts.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 03:58 PM

19. they hate brown people more, it would seem

racism is truly the driving force behind most repuke voters

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 03:00 PM

15. K & R...nt

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 03:19 PM

16. About time for "Campaign Style" ads

The damn DCCC and DSCC can spend hundreds of millions (our contributions included!) slamming Republican opponents every 2 years in hopes of converting Soap Opera Housewives and Monday Morning Quarterbacks and especially the self-choosing, uninformable undecideds. Then in between elections we get - crickets! (except for requests for more of our money!)

About time they started National TV Ads everytime the Right proposes some bill or law that's going to hurt Americans. Tell the people in ads how the latest Right Wing BS will affect them and keep hammering it home. Hit the states where it's going to hurt people most. And don't pull any punches! Tell it the way it is and will be!

Put them on the cable BS Sites like CNN and Fox and even a lot of AM Radio. Maybe some will wake up!

You want more of our money? Start earning it. Maybe with Florida and Texas?

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Response to 3825-87867 (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 05:32 PM

22. YES!

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 05:11 PM

21. the man nails it

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 06:05 PM

26. This isn't new...

Ronald Reagan massively cut the tax rates on top income brackets AND the corporate tax rate, THEN for the first time in the history of the program started taxing Social Security benefits as income. Conservatives have always shifted the burden of paying for society from the wealthiest people, most able to pay, to the rest of us. Then they scream about how we need austerity, to cut spending on frivolous things like infrastructure, healthcare, food and water safety, etc... They NEVER say, "You know, the military is a full 10 percent of the federal budget and over 50% of discretionary spending, maybe we ought to look at that"

Conservatives do not give on solitary shit about anyone but the wealthy, and their own ambitions to become the wealthy.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 08:10 PM

28. American workers EARNED their social security. The rich are just ENTITLED to their tax cuts.

In case there were any questions.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 26, 2023, 12:13 AM

32. Well put..

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2023, 09:20 PM

29. Twitter reply:

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2023, 12:34 AM

33. how much is the GWB tax cuts + his iWaq war?

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2023, 09:02 AM

36. I wish the Democrats would run ads like this. The media are not on our side.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2023, 10:15 AM

37. Jeff's use of the term "obscenely wealthy" is wrong.

I prefer Toxically Wealthy.

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