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PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 12:24 PM Jan 2023

I want to talk about the media today, in light of this weekend's NFL championship games.

I will begin by offering this disclaimer: I am a diehard, lifelong Philadelphia Eagles fan who “bleeds Eagles Green”. That being said, I am also of necessity a realist and know what is going on when I watch an individual or a team play. I have watched pro football since 1958 and have extensively studied it, read up on it, and I’m familiar with the history and complexity of the sport. I have watched it on television essentially all my life, and have watched the evolution of coverage from virtually nonexistent in the early 1960s to what it is today, possibly the biggest single thing in sports or entertainment.

For both personal and academic reasons, I watched six hours of Pregame coverage on the NFL channel and several hours on ESPN and local stations for the coverage after the Kansas City game. I did this for a reason which transcends football.

In the pregame shows, I watched the Network profile three of the four teams extensively as well as certain personnel associated with those teams . My Eagles were largely ignored while all this was going on. The profile of what was the third string quarterback for San Francisco 49ers made him out to be the second coming of Tom Brady, who was called into action himself, when the starting quarterback went down for an injury all those years ago. The quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals was said to be the best quarterback in the league presently, and in a class with Staubach, Montana, and a few other remarkable players who are by all accounts regarded to be at the pinnacle of the history of the sport. The glowing reports of these individuals’ talents were transcendental, and if my team were mentioned, it was generally in passing. if you were really paying attention, you would think that the San Francisco team happened to be playing in Philadelphia Pennsylvania against… Someone who will be unmentioned. They went to far as to have three panelists sitting in front of the stadium in Philly, all three originally born in the Delaware Valley including one Hall of Fame quarterback, and virtually no mentions made of the home team while everything else under the sun was discussed.

Now I don’t know much about much, but I do know relative talent of a football team, and for two weeks in a row I have said that the Eagles were vastly superior to both the teams which they played, and the games probably wouldn’t even be close. In fact, the Eagles set a record for being the first team to score more than 30 points, while holding both teams to fewer than 10. Now, yes, I know that the Niners were playing with their third, then fourth, then fifth string quarterbacks, I understand that, but I don’t remember anybody dissing Seattle’s team when the Eagles were playing them in the playoffs, and our quarterback was injured and the no-name gentleman filled in for the rest of the game. Every team has injuries, and it is very much a part of the game. I will say that after the Eagles destroyed their opponent, the vast number of contributors on sports networks gave them their due.

Now, why am I talking about this? Because sports are covered, teams are covered, individuals are covered, exactly the way political candidates and parties are covered. The media decides in advance who they’re going to promote, and that person is the subject of the vast amount of discussion and conversation Plus the imminent red wave, which never occurred much like the immune pounding which the Eagles were going to take from the Giants last week and the 49ers this week, who were “clearly“ better teams. Unfortunately, for these commentators, the Eagles and the Democrats forgot to lose which they were supposed to. That just messes up the whole discussion of everything. The only thing missing from Yesterdays lineup on the pregame shows was Jonathan Lemire and Chuck Todd discussing “conventional wisdom”, and what has happened before in the past and previously and before as though it were a near-certain predictor of future events.

I love watching people eat crow, and very much look forward to the game in between Kansas City and Philadelphia. Two weeks hence. They are both excellent, clutch teams and the final score may well be be close. Then again…maybe not.

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I want to talk about the media today, in light of this weekend's NFL championship games. (Original Post) PCIntern Jan 2023 OP
Good post. It's impossible to predict any game... First Speaker Jan 2023 #1
You go WAY back PCIntern Jan 2023 #12
Your team won when you injured the other teams QB ! RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2023 #2
Well the 49ers broke Tony Pollard's leg because of his running abilities MagickMuffin Jan 2023 #8
So true, PC. It couldn't have been more Quakerfriend Jan 2023 #3
Truth is Pantagruel Jan 2023 #4
meh, it's just a game GusBob Jan 2023 #5
Was a close game GusBob Feb 2023 #23
Talking about all the damn talking heads on Fox, CBS, NBC, and the NFL Network...... a kennedy Jan 2023 #6
Dallas Cowboys fan here and I'm cheering for the Eagles MagickMuffin Jan 2023 #7
I think that the color commentator's remark tgat PCIntern Jan 2023 #13
From a Seahawks fan... nolabear Jan 2023 #9
You're right about that PCIntern Jan 2023 #14
Buccaneers backer rooting for the Eagles. lpbk2713 Jan 2023 #10
I get full of it when pre-game shows are on. LiberalFighter Jan 2023 #11
Big smile, eccentric, long hair PCIntern Jan 2023 #15
Yep! Like a spoiled teenage kid. LiberalFighter Jan 2023 #19
I noticed the 49ers behavior changed from the week before MagickMuffin Jan 2023 #17
Sports reporting and talk before and after games is completely useless. usonian Jan 2023 #16
Heck, the whole process is about the bottom line jeffreyi Jan 2023 #18
Hurts has been disrespected the whole year. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2023 #20
People view media coverage through their own lens I suppose. tritsofme Jan 2023 #21
The team that hired Michael Vick. Coventina Jan 2023 #22

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
1. Good post. It's impossible to predict any game...
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 12:33 PM
Jan 2023

...but if I were a betting man, I'd bet that Hurts outplays Mahomes. I lived in Swarthmore from 1966 to 1970, and saw a lot of Eagles games in that period with Norm Snead--a very underrated quarterback, unjustly remembered only as the man traded for Sonny Jurgensen. I find myself rooting for the Eagles, and--hopefully--the media will have to talk about them for once if they win. Uhh...I was also there, in person, the day they booed Santa Claus. God bless Philly...

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
2. Your team won when you injured the other teams QB !
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 12:51 PM
Jan 2023

Congrats !

Don't bet on NFL football. They are not a competitive sports league they are an entertainment industry (That means 32 teams act as one, just like the WWE) They share profits, they are very high level socialists and they help control the games which is odd since they are partnered very heavily with the gambling industry...

MagickMuffin

(15,937 posts)
8. Well the 49ers broke Tony Pollard's leg because of his running abilities
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:32 PM
Jan 2023

Last edited Mon Jan 30, 2023, 02:29 PM - Edit history (1)



Those are the breaks in football. It’s a brutal game.


Quakerfriend

(5,450 posts)
3. So true, PC. It couldn't have been more
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:15 PM
Jan 2023

blatant.

I was glad to hear Brandon Brooks go off about this in the post game discussion!

Go 🦅!!

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
4. Truth is
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:16 PM
Jan 2023

media focused on Purdy because their holy grail is a "cinderella " story and he was perfect, a possible Mr. Irrelevant to SB champ.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
5. meh, it's just a game
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:17 PM
Jan 2023

and as far as entertainment, the NFC game was boring AF

and as far as the pre and post game blah, blah, blah, to me a colossal waste of time

and if someone thinks their team is invincible they are often mistaken

a kennedy

(29,658 posts)
6. Talking about all the damn talking heads on Fox, CBS, NBC, and the NFL Network......
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:28 PM
Jan 2023

I think the NFL Network kinda pokes fun of itself and I really do enjoy their coverage. JMHO.

MagickMuffin

(15,937 posts)
7. Dallas Cowboys fan here and I'm cheering for the Eagles
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:30 PM
Jan 2023


Not many here in DFW that feels that way.

I was rooting for them yesterday, since the 49ers play dirty. They actually got called on it yesterday but when they did that to the Cowboys and it went unnoticed. Since when are players allowed to fist punch the opposing team players?

I was hoping for the Bengals to win but alas it wasn’t meant to be.


But yeah, the babbling talking heads are like Kornaki not that entertaining to watch, so I usually don’t. Although when they are so sure of themselves with their predictions can be entertaining in and of itself.





PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
13. I think that the color commentator's remark tgat
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:46 PM
Jan 2023

The 49er was taking Rocky Balboa -like left hooks was pretty funny.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
9. From a Seahawks fan...
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:33 PM
Jan 2023

They’re never given their due. I watched that weird Phil/SF game and support the Eagles in the Superbowl but Seattle has worked a bloody miracle this past year and the media gives them nothin’.

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
11. I get full of it when pre-game shows are on.
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:38 PM
Jan 2023

Fox did a segment about George Kittle. A large segment. And my assessment of him as a person. He stinks. His talent especially with the game last week was something with that catch. I checked his performance of past games. Not really that great compared to that game. And again his ego. It sucks. I wouldn't want to be associated with someone like him.

MagickMuffin

(15,937 posts)
17. I noticed the 49ers behavior changed from the week before
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:58 PM
Jan 2023


I was so glad they got beat so badly! Gone were the sticking out their tongues for the cameras, no more taunting the other team.


The Eagles shredded them to pieces and I cheered all the way.

usonian

(9,790 posts)
16. Sports reporting and talk before and after games is completely useless.
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 01:54 PM
Jan 2023

Unfortunately, there's a ton of it (basically all of it except game play by play), and people enjoy it.

I personally get nothing out of speculating on things on which I have no control or influence (like certain things we can only speculate on and wish for on DU, and you know exactly what I mean! )

Nor from Monday Morning quarterbacking (or hospital visits, as the case may be).

And I don't gamble. Maybe that's why people are so interested.

jeffreyi

(1,939 posts)
18. Heck, the whole process is about the bottom line
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 02:04 PM
Jan 2023

And that is providing content that they think will get some eyeballs, and sell ads. Don't let them waste your precious time!

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
20. Hurts has been disrespected the whole year.
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 02:19 PM
Jan 2023

But the kid just keeps winning. Which is all that matters. When he wins Super Bowl MVP in two weeks people will still probably say “the jury’s still out”.

F em!

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
21. People view media coverage through their own lens I suppose.
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 02:26 PM
Jan 2023

The Eagles were favored in both games, and already have an edge on the initial line for the Super Bowl. They were never under dogs.

Maybe people were just hopeful Philly wouldn’t get there? You are not exactly the most lovable fan base. I mean you guys threw batteries at Santa Claus, after all.

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