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.... to cause problems just like Putin installed Trump to weaken America from the inside. "Tony"
is doing exactly what who or whomever backed him wanted him to do right now. I would bet
he has Russian backing and or right wingers like the Mercers. Every time he tells an over the
top lie he is just doing his job. I hope the DoJ picks him up before he tries to skip town and at
the very least ships him back to Brazil to face charges for his crimes there.
Irish_Dem
(80,019 posts)DOJ has done nothing to them.
Farmer-Rick
(12,494 posts)They worked hard at hiding all of W's and Cheney's war crimes. W and Cheney never got prosecuted. Eversince then, DOJ seems to be the Department Of Coverup and not the Department Of Justice.
I think they have been thoroughly corrupted by the criminals they work with.
Irish_Dem
(80,019 posts)And much much worse.
Lying on his resume is far less serious than overthrowing the US gov't.
We know Putin has infiltrated the highest levels of the US govt.
No branch is immune.
The only reason the GOP will get rid of Santis is that he is a distraction.
bucolic_frolic
(54,139 posts)Most people can't see it, I get arguments on here against him being a Trump-style redux, but it's there, in plain sight.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,541 posts)bucolic_frolic
(54,139 posts)Their lack of due diligence and silence and showing empty pockets now says they were bought off.
hlthe2b
(112,919 posts)and who ignore it when it breaks important stories. Younger generations can't be bothered to read local newspapers, even online, much less support them $$. Nor will they watch local news programs on TV. This is only the start of what we will face once it (and all investigative reporting) goes away.
Small, local paper uncovered and reported George Santos scandal before November election
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/small-local-paper-uncovered-and-reported-george-santos-scandal-before-november-election
The Local Paper That First Sounded the Alarm on George Santos
Clare Malone speaks with the publisher and managing editor of the North Shore Leader, the local newspaper that first exposed George Santoss lies. Why was he elected anyway?
https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/political-scene/the-local-paper-that-first-sounded-the-alarm-on-george-santos
He was weird: Publisher of Long Island newspaper that exposed Santos knew something was up years before election win
The North Shore Leader was the first newspaper to expose falsehoods made by George Santos before the midterm elections
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/george-santos-grant-lally-long-island-b2267628.html
Lonestarblue
(13,250 posts)seems to have been done here. One would think that candidates and their staffs would read local news and follow up on information about an opponent, especially a Republican who already ran previously.
hlthe2b
(112,919 posts)aggressively tackling it, I think that is a valid issue. It would appear Lee Zeldin focused all the attention on the Governor's race.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)As a percentage of the whole, Democrats have more educated and highly educated people than Republicans.
As a percentage of the whole, Republicans have fewer low-end-earner members than Democrats.
Republicans enjoy more financing to support their lo-info message. Democrats have less funding to spread their message which poorly educated people tend to ignore anyway. What could go wrong?
The media covers news. News is that the wealthy are growing ever stronger in their control of US federal, state and local government. It's the old, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make the average American understand complex issues even when perpetual ignorance repeatedly knocks them in the head" trick.
housecat
(3,138 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(22,541 posts)And sort through the lies. I will not let ignorant voters off the hook.
Farmer-Rick
(12,494 posts)They get propaganda mostly, or countering stories that muddy the truth. Yeah, local media was on the ball but it was drowned out by corporate media muddying the truth.
Blaming the voters is like blaming the christians and the religious for believing in an invisible god with no evidence. Americans are taught to believe the unbelievable.
Botany
(76,461 posts).... local media would not follow up on it.
hlthe2b
(112,919 posts)Honestly, put the blame where it belongs. That local newspaper editor tried his best to get the word out.
n/t
WA-03 Democrat
(3,336 posts)Serving the interest of the United States?
Never
C_U_L8R
(48,940 posts)A convenient shiny object to distract from their other daily crimes and misadministration.
gab13by13
(31,336 posts)His assets should be frozen until he is either cleared or indicted.
agingdem
(8,773 posts)devoid of conscience/shame/remorse...this toxic amoral empty suit is enjoying his notoriety, a daily parade of reporters (paparazzi) swarming him, tossing questions, breathlessly waiting for the Santos lying soundbite of the day.. George Anthony Kitara Devolder Daviche Lavinsky Santos is a clear and present danger but in the MAGA sea of traitors, predators, abusers, and thieves he hardly stands out...
C0RI0LANUS
(3,015 posts)FYI: Pres Lula is visiting Pres Biden 10 Feb at the White House. There should be two arrest warrants in his jacket pocket.
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Scrivener7
(58,454 posts)stop investigating him.
AZLD4Candidate
(6,734 posts)dalton99a
(92,322 posts)RussBLib
(10,437 posts)...because they are conducting their own investigation. You left that part out, on purpose?
I imagine it could get pretty messy if multiple jurisdictions are all investigating at the same time.
Nittersing
(8,131 posts)I don't really think this, but it sure would be a fun turn.
lark
(25,910 posts)He's just another Putin project.
Botany
(76,461 posts).... Russia's attacks on our democracy on Putin's payroll and was indicted by Mueller which I think
Trump quashed.
Thanks for your post! We now have linkage between DeVolder and Russia.
lark
(25,910 posts)The same one Manafort sent all the polling data to. Hmmm.
Botany
(76,461 posts)And it was not polling data but data analytics or what could be turned into data analytics aka
weaponized information that showed the FSB where to rat fuck our elections (with inside help
from the GOP/Facebook/Cambridge Analytica)
lark
(25,910 posts)Botany
(76,461 posts)

lark
(25,910 posts)Putin = would be destroyer of the worlds democratic processes and promotor of the slavery of billions of working class folks.
Botany
(76,461 posts).... the U.K. out of Brexit. Some of the exact same people went on to help Trump and the GOP
in the 2016 elections.
lark
(25,910 posts)Both are awful for the entire world.
Botany
(76,461 posts)A New Report Adds Evidence That Trump Was a Russian Asset
He helped Putin manipulate the U.S. election in 2020, as he did in 2016.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html
********
BTW not from the Republican senate intel committee produced by republicans above but in 2020 our intelligence
people caught Russia working for Bernie and instead of going after the Russians Trump fired the intelligence
people.
Kid Berwyn
(23,160 posts)And the liar forged a campaign treasurers signature some famous and legit GOP campaign treasurer on one FEC form.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/25/politics/santos-campaign-treasurer/index.html
Connected to some high net worth individuals all RIGHT.
calimary
(89,129 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)His notoriety has more to do with a "convergence of related factors" than a recruiting and grooming process that's normally initiated by Russian intelligence. Santos rather fell into the job of mini-Trump, but with chicken scratch in his money bag.
dclarston13
(439 posts)SledDriver
(2,122 posts)allegorical oracle
(6,222 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)"The voters have elected him and he'll have a voice here in Congress, and until he answers all those questions, then at that time, he'll be able to be seated on committees," McCarthy said.
The Republicans obviously NEED attention to mostly move on and stay moved on. Now me, I wonder what kind of deal they made for Santos not to follow the Marjorie Greene model -- almost daily sensational behaviors to grab the spotlight -- after she was stripped of committee assignments. He's already been showing signs of moving to the far-right institution destroyers.
LaMouffette
(2,583 posts)it is now the responsibility of Keven McCarthy and the rest of the House Republicans to remove him from office.
But they won't.
This is identical to Trump's ludicrous, corrupt, traitorous, treasonous, violent turn as "president." He never should have been elected, and once elected, the Republicans should have joined with Democrats in removing him from office.
But they didn't.
What in bloody hell can we do about having one political party that refuses to put country over party, power, and personal enrichment?
Botany
(76,461 posts)... and is fine with it. After all McCarthy along with Paul Ryan, Steve Scalise, and McConnell all
knew about Trump/Russia in 2016. McCarthy is now trying to weasel out of getting rid of "Tony"
with some mush mouth statement about "the will of the voters" in his district.
alfredo
(60,253 posts)
LaMouffette
(2,583 posts)just as long as they're on the side of the "winners," which will turn out to be the authoritarian dictators and the world's oligarchs if we can't turn this runaway fascist train around.
McCarthy reminds me of a Bob Dylan lyric: "You just want to be on the side that's winning."
Martin68
(27,123 posts)When we know who is funding him and why we'll have a better idea what's going on.
dalton99a
(92,322 posts)The POS probably has multiple passports and a large bank account full of stolen/dirty money
AllaN01Bear
(28,653 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,528 posts)moreland01
(866 posts)are the ones you'd NEVER suspect. This guy is just too obvious. He may want to be a russian agent,
but they'd never have him.
Botany
(76,461 posts)
Sympthsical
(10,871 posts)Where everything is a Bond plot.
George Santos is a pathological liar probably with some kind of mental illness like antisocial personality disorder. They exist all by themselves.
The person he most reminds me of as I watch him is Andrew Cunnanan, the spree killer who murdered five people including Gianni Versace. I read the book Vulgar Favors by Maureen Orth that the American Crime television series was based on, and he was something. Lied about everything. His relationships. His education. His jobs. His net worth. His background in both socioeconomic status and ethnicity. He was Filipino-Italian but would oftentimes tell people he was Jewish. He went by different names depending on the social circles he was moving in.
At the core of it was that he was just kind of too lazy to do anything with his life. He thought he was clever enough (and cute enough) that his lies would carry him. He figured he could ingratiate himself with the right people and manipulate his way into success. That no one would ever put two and two together. In reading about it, it's kind of amazing to see how no one did for so long.
And it worked in part. He got in with some of the right people, had his lifestyle funded, pulled off the appearance of being monied and socially mobile.
But then it didn't work. The lies didn't add up. People started talking with one another and comparing notes. The money ran out. People wanted less and less to do with him. His looks and charisma started fading. Mix in anti-personality disorder, rejection, and failure (with a decent bit of meth addiction) and he snapped.
There are people like this in the world. They can get to a surprisingly high level in society. It's completely coocoo bonkers that one made it into Congress in the age of the internet. But here we are.
(Also, Orth's book is a fantastic read if anyone's interested in the topic).
muriel_volestrangler
(105,624 posts)or, if they were the driving force, they'd have found someone more reliable (and they wouldn't have picked someone gay, either - it made his election uncertain). Sure, he's receiving some money from Russians who are betting owning a congressman will help them - but as crooks, not as an overarching plot. And his life indicates he goes and looks for dubious money.
Santos has been making up shit for years, for profit and/or status, and running as a candidate was just his latest scam (since it involves people donating money, it's ripe for exploitation). He doesn't "weaken America" much; he's too junior in Congress. It's just crap for his constituents, who have a congressman they can't trust an inch.
Botany
(76,461 posts)He is by design an agent for chaos and that can include a little toad of man talking about
being a great volley ball player or meeting Chuck Schumer's mom and talking smack about
her son. And yes he weakens America by getting us talking about non issues that is in the
in the right wing's agenda. "Did you see what Santos said today?" This is gas lighting on
steroids.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,624 posts)Remember that we're political obsessives here. America talks far more about what a Kardashian does, but that doesn't make them a "chaos agent".