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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Yale Professor Suggested Mass Suicide for Old People in Japan.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/12/world/asia/japan-elderly-mass-suicide.htmlNo paywall
https://archive.is/2ZJKj
His pronouncements could hardly sound more drastic.
In interviews and public appearances, Yusuke Narita, an assistant professor of economics at Yale, has taken on the question of how to deal with the burdens of Japans rapidly aging society.
I feel like the only solution is pretty clear, he said during one online news program in late 2021. In the end, isnt it mass suicide and mass seppuku of the elderly? Seppuku is an act of ritual disembowelment that was a code among dishonored samurai in the 19th century.
Last year, when asked by a school-age boy to elaborate on his mass seppuku theories, Dr. Narita graphically described to a group of assembled students a scene from Midsommar, a 2019 horror film in which a Swedish cult sends one of its oldest members to commit suicide by jumping off a cliff.
Whether thats a good thing or not, thats a more difficult question to answer, Dr. Narita told the questioner as he assiduously scribbled notes. So if you think thats good, then maybe you can work hard toward creating a society like that.
At other times, he has broached the topic of euthanasia. The possibility of making it mandatory in the future, he said in one interview, will come up in discussion.
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LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)hlthe2b
(112,916 posts)Gee, Yale, aren't you proud to be associated with THAT? Maybe at least post a PR distancing yourself, ya think?
Oneironaut
(6,226 posts)When its them, they suddenly become the exception. lol
Its the same with chicken hawks. Go to war and die for me, while I sit comfortably at home.
Jilly_in_VA
(13,852 posts)He can start right there.
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)ProfessorGAC
(75,888 posts)Sounds like a satiric approach to initiate problem solving.
appalachiablue
(43,887 posts)cbabe
(6,251 posts)After the pandemic, the deluge.
Instead of letting oldsters die alone in nursing homes, why not help them along first. Plus keeping them alive is too expensive. Ditto for unfit Downs children. Etc.
How grieving citizenry are manipulated and exploited into believing and taking action.
no_hypocrisy
(54,361 posts)Logans Run
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)But Logan's Run is gonna happen when fossil fuels start to significantly run out. Not at 30 yo like in that movie, but something like it.
They are literally what physically allows society to be generous in the way we are in this regard.
It's not the money we put into SS and Medicare, it's available high EROEI energy supplies. Money is made-up shit. Energy is not.
Silent3
(15,909 posts)When you're at the opposite end of the age spectrum from being the most precious form of life -- an embryo -- why not?
Irish_Dem
(80,014 posts)That is the plan.
Irish_Dem
(80,014 posts)The Enterprise came across a planet where at a certain age, people had to kill themselves?
If you didn't do it, there was great shame on the family.
edbermac
(16,400 posts)That planets culture decreed that their people would end their life at age 60. David Ogden Steirs played the particular character who had reached that age.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_a_Life_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)
Irish_Dem
(80,014 posts)But the love is doomed as Steirs cannot cross his family or culture for Troi.
And he dies.
musette_sf
(10,451 posts)
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)I would recommend mass suicide for Yale professors.
obamanut2012
(29,197 posts)yorkster
(3,695 posts)Uncle Joe
(64,296 posts)and the movie was an improvement over the book wherein the age of kissing it all goodbye was 21
Logan's Run is a 1976 American science fiction action film[5] directed by Michael Anderson and starring Michael York, Jenny Agutter, Richard Jordan, Roscoe Lee Browne, Farrah Fawcett, and Peter Ustinov. The screenplay by David Zelag Goodman is based on the 1967 novel Logan's Run by William F. Nolan and George Clayton Johnson. It depicts a utopian future society on the surface, revealed as a dystopia where the population and the consumption of resources are maintained in equilibrium by killing everyone who reaches the age of 30. The story follows the actions of Logan 5, a "Sandman" who has terminated others who have attempted to escape death and is now faced with termination himself.
Produced by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, the film uses only the novel's two basic premises: that everyone must die at a set age, and that Logan and his companion Jessica attempt to escape while being chased by another Sandman named Francis. After aborted attempts to adapt the novel, story changes were made, including raising the age of "last day" from 21 to 30 and introducing the idea of "Carrousel" [sic] for eliminating 30-year-olds. Its filming was marked by special-effects challenges in depicting Carrousel and innovative use of holograms and wide-angle lenses.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan%27s_Run_(film)
It's like the Republicans trying to kill social security in any way shape form they can, can't sunset it just raise the retirement age to whatever and Jake Tapper Inc. will just nod along!
Thanks for the thread Nevilledog
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)This is all I need to know.
In his day job, Dr. Narita conducts technical research of computerized algorithms used in education and health care policy. But as a regular presence across numerous internet platforms and on television in Japan, he has grown increasingly popular, appearing on magazine covers, comedy shows and in an advertisement for energy drinks. He has even spawned an imitator on TikTok.
He often appears with Gen X rabble-rousers like Hiroyuki Nishimura, a celebrity entrepreneur and owner of 4chan, the online message board where some of the internets most toxic ideas bloom, and Takafumi Horie, a trash-talking entrepreneur who once went to prison for securities fraud.
https://archive.is/2ZJKj