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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsComparing the Garland/Smith investigation to the Willis investigation.
If you think about, It took Willis two years to investigate a phone call. It was trumps phone call that started her investigation.
Willis did not have to investigate thousands of people who stormed the Capital. She did not have to investigate the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, put them on trial. She did not have to investigate all the fake electors from other States. She did not have to follow the money when it comes to the rallies, the coup attempt. It still took her two years. That's how are legal system works. It's set up that way. Due process. The larger, more complicated, more sensitive, the investigation. The longer it takes.
Garland hasn't been in office for two years. To say Garland is taking too long, to compare his investigation to the Willis investigation is ridiculous.
niyad
(132,448 posts)incident involving a handful of people.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Some people act like powerful people are never held accountable. People who committed crimes that don't even compare to the crimes trump and the coup plotters. It is defeatism at it's worst.
atreides1
(16,799 posts)Garland assumed the office on March 11, 2021! His two year anniversary will be in 25 days!
And while his investigation is larger, more complicated and sensitive...he also has access to more assets then Fani Willis does!
The simple fact that he has more assets should mean that two years, maybe two years and six months should be adequate!
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Hundreds of them. He has more assets because he needs them.
gab13by13
(32,337 posts)Under the leadership of the Attorney General of the United States, the Justice Department is composed of more than 40 separate component organizations and more than 115,000 employees.
With that said, this is by far the biggest prosecution in our history. The effort in the beginning was there for the pawns, I just wish that DOJ had investigated Trump and his inner circle sooner because time matters.
Fani Willis' only worry about time is that she is up for reelection, she doesn't have to worry about pardons.
Michael Sherwin was one of the lead prosecutors, he was out of the DC circuit. Sherwin convinced Garland to go with the pyramid strategy, working from the bottom up. Sherwin was a Trump appointee who worked with Bill Barr to allow Michael Flynn to withdraw his guilty plea and then Barr and Sherwin dropped the Flynn prosecution. Sherwin didn't last long under Garland though after he went on 60 Minutes unauthorized.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Another fact. It is not uncommon or wrong to start investigations from the bottom up. As a matter of fact it is a smart strategy. You get people to turn on people above them. The thing you call pyramid strategy is a smart strategy.
Once again you suggest Garland with doing something corrupt( working with a trump appointee) or stupid. You attack Garland more than you do Trump. Do you know that?
Fiendish Thingy
(23,240 posts)How can you set a benchmark for an event- the criminal prosecutions of a former president- that has never happened before?
The only thing you can accurately measure in this unprecedented event is your own patience in waiting for an outcome.
Jarqui
(10,909 posts)of documents to review from the House investigation.
DoJ have to be cognizant of GA, MI & NY cases and the various cases within the DoJ.
We knew the bottom up approach from the outset. Those at the bottom of command and control for Jan 6th for example, would be prosecuted first. Then the next tier. Rinse & repeat. Oath Keepers got convicted last month. Proud Boys are in court now. Upper tier witnesses like Pence or Trump lawyers are getting subpoenas now.
Throughout, Trump has tried every delay tactic every step of the way.
I'm encouraged that they seem to keep moving forward, convicting more folks while moving up the chain of command and gathering more witnesses and evidence as they go.
Trump has been involved in over 4,000 civil cases but these criminal ones, they're even more trouble and so are some of the civil cases from Jan 6th and NY AG James $250 mil minimum lawsuit
https://www.justsecurity.org/75032/litigation-tracker-pending-criminal-and-civil-cases-against-donald-trump/
Add in all the lawyers bills, some settlements and fines and he's already getting some punishment.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Some people fail to remember the DOJ needed, wanted, asked for, the J6 committee evidence early on. They refused because they wanted to wait until their hearings were complete. I am not saying it was right or wrong. I am saying that's how it went down. The DOJ could not move forward without the committee evidence being added to the the evidence they were collecting.
The DOJ just got all the committee evidence recently. They have to go through all that evidence.
Once again, comparing the Garland Investigation to the Willis investigation is a joke.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,240 posts)Had to post that before all the cool kids get here
But seriously, bringing facts to a recreational outrage party will only fan the flames further