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angrychair

(11,698 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 10:49 PM Feb 2023

DeSantis can now "legally" kidnap people

DeSantis can now grab people off the street and relocate them at will.

One of the new laws creates a dedicated program in the governor’s office for migrant relocations and specifies that the state can transport migrants located anywhere in the country.


So, practically speaking, what's the difference between kidnapping and relocating immigrants and American citizens? I mean immigrants are covered by the Constitution. They have rights. You can't just take them.

Seriously, how is this legal?

Reference link: https://apnews.com/article/ron-desantis-biden-florida-state-government-aa5a860ff3163c8bcdcb8187dfd6f9db
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RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. Your sig. line can also be applied to DeSantis. He's possibly worse than Trump. He attacks all sorts
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 10:54 PM
Feb 2023

of things appearing to think that makes him a manly tough guy and in line for the presidency 2024. The guy is dangerous as hell.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
2. I have a feeling this kidnapping won't play well in...
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 11:02 PM
Feb 2023

a national election. Who's advising this fool?

His little dictator act won't travel.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
4. That cost
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 11:11 PM
Feb 2023

has to be greater than simply getting them jobs and housing.

I just got to say --what school indoctrinated him into behaving this way?

Oh yeah, Yale, right? Do they not teach basic human decency there?

I guess not.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
5. Once again: NOT what the law says.....
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 11:24 PM
Feb 2023

Florida officials CANNOT "kidnap" migrants. They cannot force migrants to leave the State. The law allows DeSantis to relocate migrants regardless of the State they're in in order to give him cover for the migrants previously flown from Texas. However, none of those migrants was forced to leave, nor does the new law allow anyone to be forced to leave in the future.

angrychair

(11,698 posts)
6. When I say "force"
Thu Feb 16, 2023, 12:14 AM
Feb 2023

I mean "under false pretense" as in the case of those that got taken to Martha's Vineyard, based on the stories from those immigrants, it was kidnapping by inveiglement. Not sure what happened to that issue and why the fed seems to be letting him do it.

Also, what the law says and what happens out in the real world are very different things.

Still doesn't answer how a state can pass a law to take people from a completely different state and send them to another, completely different state.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
8. Simple...
Thu Feb 16, 2023, 02:48 AM
Feb 2023

What it does is allow the State to spend its money moving people from another State to a different State IF THEY CAN BE CONVINCED TO GO. Convincing them to go under false pretenses is unethical; it's not illegal.

KIDNAP (verb): "to take a person away illegally by force"

pnwmom

(110,194 posts)
10. They haven't consented if they're told they'll be taken to one place but instead taken to another.
Thu Feb 16, 2023, 02:54 AM
Feb 2023

That's what happened to those deposited in Martha's Island. They never consented to going there.

And the fact that this law was passed now doesn't give him RETROACTIVE cover.

angrychair

(11,698 posts)
13. Your definition of Kidnapping
Thu Feb 16, 2023, 11:32 AM
Feb 2023

Is incomplete.

kidnapping by inveiglement is kidnapping and has nothing to do with using force. That is what happened, based on reporting, in the case of the people taken to Martha's Vineyard.

scarletlib

(3,560 posts)
12. Is this really helpful to Florida residents?
Thu Feb 16, 2023, 07:52 AM
Feb 2023

This state has a lot of serious problems that need to be addressed. Spending money on useless political stunts isn’t helping.

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