The news so far about the grand jury report from Georgia is disappointing.

[fightforfreedom]

The judge released 9 pages. What's the point. The judge just wasted time.

[hlthe2b]

1. Really? That is about what I would expect and hope--given I don't want any eventually indicted

to be handed a legal defense because of the pre-trial release of evidence later ruled inadmissible due to bias.

I am only hoping for a nugget here and there and if we get a rough NUMBER of those recommended for prosecution, that will be revealing in and of itself.

[gab13by13]

3. Exactly

[gab13by13]

2. Why do you need to see the report?

I'm ecstatic that not much was released, nothing should have been released.

[fightforfreedom]

7. That's my point. the judge did nothing but waste time, slow things down.

He spent weeks deciding to release 9 pages of nothing.

[Ohio Joe]

40. I... Actually agree with you for a change...

The case must be done correctly and this is the correct way to do it.

[Ocelot II]

4. I disagree. There are two important findings in the release:

1. The grand jury found unanimously that there was no fraud that could have affected the outcome of the election.

2. A majority concluded that some witnesses committed perjury and recommended that the DA pursue indictments.

[fightforfreedom]

8. We already knew that.

[Ocelot II]

9. I'm glad the judge didn't release any more than that.

[triron]

18. We did? I didn't.

[fightforfreedom]

20. It was reported people lied before the grand jury.

The judge released 9 pages of nothing. He could have done that in a day.

[Freethinker65]

11. Yep. And flipping Georgia alone would NOT have changed the outcome

But, there were activities proposing alternate slates of electors moving forward in other States as well.

[gab13by13]

5. Here is the report;

https://www.lawfareblog.com/judge-publishes-parts-fulton-county-special-purpose-grand-jurys-final-report#:~:text=Thursday%2C%20February%2016%2C%202023%2C%2011%3A02%20AM%20On%20Feb.,criminal%20interference%20in%20the%202020%20election%20in%20Georgia.

[hlthe2b]

6. thank you for posting the link.

[Ocelot II]

10. Do you really think nothing was going on in the meantime?

Willis was probably spending that time getting ready to prepare indictments and getting the jump on whatever the judge did finally decide to release. I don't see a problem here.

[fightforfreedom]

12. It was a waste of time.

Hell, Willis gave us more information than the judge released. She told us multiple people are going to be indicted. We already knew people lied to the grand jury.

[Johnny2X2X]

14. It was Willis who didn't want the GJ report released

And it was her asking that kept the release so limited.

[Sneederbunk]

15. Not exactly earth-shaking. So much for that.

Not even enough to humor the masses.

[gab13by13]

16. The members of the grand jury requested it be released,

Done, partially. I am encouraged by the fact that the jurors wanted their report made public, it must be compelling evidence.

Way to go Fani.

[Ocelot II]

17. Their recommendation that Willis seek perjury indictments is a big deal.

Sure, "we knew" witnesses lied because we knew who some of the witnesses were and of course they were going to lie. But a recommendation for indictments from the grand jury carries a whole lot more weight than "we knew."

[fightforfreedom]

19. We were told people lied. Of course people will get indicted for lying to a grand jury.

The judge wasted time. Weeks to release 9 pages? Why bother.

[gab13by13]

23. No time was wasted,

Fani isn't going to indict anyone until March.

[fightforfreedom]

29. Of course you state this as a fact.

You don't believe this didn't waste Willis's time in any way? Whatever.

[gab13by13]

33. She had to argue before the judge to convince him not to release it.

It wasn't her idea to release the report. Time is only wasted if you allow it. At the grocery store check out, I don't wait in line to be checked out, I enjoy the moment, why I even let people go ahead of me.

[fightforfreedom]

26. We already knew all of this.

When people lie to a grand jury the are going to recommend indictments. This is not earth shattering news.

[gab13by13]

13. Most experts agree

that Fani will wait until a new grand jury is convened in March to give her more time.

The perjury information is huge news, Fani can use that as leverage to get people to cooperate, if not, she can lock them up.

[gab13by13]

21. The grand jury did recommend

that Fani prosecute the people who committed perjury, that was their job.

Perjury in Georgia is a felony, jail time from 1 to 10 years.

[fightforfreedom]

31. It was reported the grand jury put no time frame on the release of the report.

You have to get all the facts first. That means the judge could have said i will release the report, but not now. I will not waste peoples time now.

[Doc Sportello]

22. Defeatism

Defeatism.

[gab13by13]

24. Now that made me laugh.

Put me in a good mood to go out and read my gas meter, temperatures have been above normal. I actually played 9 holes of golf yesterday in Pennsylvania in February.

[Doc Sportello]

32. Glad you got it

Took my dog on a long walk on a 68 degree day yesterday. Today, wind chill of 16 when I got up.

[fightforfreedom]

25. Good try, but it won't work.

Indictments are coming and then this complete waste of time by the judge will be forgotten.

[Doc Sportello]

30. Whoooosshhh!!

[gab13by13]

34. Maybe it's not the same person?

[inthewind21]

28. Doesn't

really matter what is done. It will never be enough, or not enough. It boggles the mind people think the public should be informed of every detail about what's going on in a criminal investigation.

[LexVegas]

35. Heh. nt

[Silent3]

36. The report is so redacted it's not much better than nothing at all.

The report tells us:

1. No substantial fraud disrupted the election in Georgia. (We knew that already, and that's not what they were there to decide. I guess it's nice they acknowledge that, however.)

2. Some people probably perjured themselves to the grand jury -- a new possible crime committed during the grand jury process itself. That tells us absolutely nothing about the crimes the grand jury was investigating, other than (duh) some people had stuff they wanted to hide in relation to election subversion.

3. The grand jury is fine and dandy with Fani Willis going on to do an unspecified whatever she wants to do. I guess that's mildly hopeful.

4. We're tired now. Can we please go home?

[onenote]

37. How did the judge "waste" time.

The DA asked the judge to delay releasing the report. The DA presumably could've moved forward without waiting for the release, just as it is now presumed that she doesn't need to wait for the rest of the report to be released to move forward if she chooses to do so.

[Prairie_Seagull]

38. Drip, drip, drip.

I hope it's not like oil spills or stolen personal info. The first number is prepratory bad news but there is always something worse coming. Fingers crossed that this is not the case.

[brooklynite]

39. The armchair prosecutors opine again

If the entirety of the Grand Jury report was issued, it would allow potential defendants to claim that the prosecutor was tainting the jury pool in a future criminal case. The DA SPECIFICALLY asked that this material be omitted.

[fightforfreedom]

41. You miss the entire point of my post.

Did you know the grand jury gave no time frame to when they wanted their report released. That means it could be released at any time. After indictments, after the trials were over. They did not tell the judge release 9 pages of nothing from our report now.

This is a complete joke.

[brooklynite]

42. "They did not tell the judge release 9 pages of nothing "

The request to limit release came from the District Attorney.

Is knowing what the GJ said about Trump more important than getting a conviction?

[fightforfreedom]

43. You still don't get it. I tried.