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CaliforniaPeggy

(156,174 posts)
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 06:05 PM Mar 2023

To understand the depth of slavery's depravity, it is necessary to learn about its roots.

I've recently finished reading a non-fiction book titled Master Slave Husband Wife which was written by Ilyon Woo.

It's the true story of a pair of married slaves from Georgia during their flight to freedom during the 1840's.

I was gripped by the many details of what slavery was like during that time, and how they risked everything to be free.

After many close calls, they did succeed.

I strongly urge anyone who's interested in the roots of the discrimination that still lives in our country today to read this book.



New York Times Bestseller

The remarkable true story of Ellen and William Craft, who escaped slavery through daring, determination, and disguise, with Ellen passing as a wealthy, disabled White man and William posing as “his” slave.

In 1848, a year of international democratic revolt, a young, enslaved couple, Ellen and William Craft, achieved one of the boldest feats of self-emancipation in American history. Posing as master and slave, while sustained by their love as husband and wife, they made their escape together across more than 1,000 miles, riding out in the open on steamboats, carriages, and trains that took them from bondage in Georgia to the free states of the North.

Along the way, they dodged slave traders, military officers, and even friends of their enslavers, who might have revealed their true identities. The tale of their adventure soon made them celebrities, and generated headlines around the country. Americans could not get enough of this charismatic young couple, who traveled another 1,000 miles criss-crossing New England, drawing thunderous applause as they spoke alongside some of the greatest abolitionist luminaries of the day—among them Frederick Douglass and William Wells Brown.

But even then, they were not out of danger. With the passage of an infamous new Fugitive Slave Act in 1850, all Americans became accountable for returning refugees like the Crafts to slavery. Then yet another adventure began, as slave hunters came up from Georgia, forcing the Crafts to flee once again—this time from the United States, their lives and thousands more on the line and the stakes never higher.

With three epic journeys compressed into one monumental bid for freedom, Master Slave Husband Wife is an American love story—one that would challenge the nation’s core precepts of life, liberty, and justice for all—one that challenges us even now.

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To understand the depth of slavery's depravity, it is necessary to learn about its roots. (Original Post) CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2023 OP
Putting it on the list. Thank you. Just finished re-reading Caste by Isabel Wilkerson. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #1
Great escape story! Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #2
Thank you, Peggy wendyb-NC Mar 2023 #3
The history of slavery in the US is really quite disgusting GeoWilliam750 Mar 2023 #4
So long as that 30% are volunteering to be slaves. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2023 #11
Please share where you found 30% of Americans want to own another human being. nt Phoenix61 Mar 2023 #12
Possibly overstating GeoWilliam750 Mar 2023 #17
I think it was supposed to be sarcastic vanamonde Mar 2023 #18
For many married "Christain"women it is a reality. efhmc Mar 2023 #19
Thanks, Peggy. I plan to read it. But we'll need to restore the 'Underground Railroad' ... 70sEraVet Mar 2023 #5
Absolutely! Thank you. Are you surviving all the weather? 7wo7rees Mar 2023 #6
I'm reading this now. It is hard to fathom how much courage, intelligent japple Mar 2023 #7
I might just have to get that book...... groundloop Mar 2023 #8
For even a better and time relevant understanding. Tarzanrock Mar 2023 #9
When I finally got around to reading "Uncle Tom's Cabin" PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2023 #15
I've been recommending "They Were Her Property" to everybody I know. Extremely illuminating WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2023 #10
When you said the roots of slavery, I was expecting something a bit more... ancient. WarGamer Mar 2023 #13
Suggested reading: AverageOldGuy Mar 2023 #14
I had not heard of that book before. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2023 #16
Just tagged it at the online public library. Thanks! live love laugh Mar 2023 #20
Thank you very much. I just ordered it. judesedit Mar 2023 #21

Scrivener7

(58,446 posts)
1. Putting it on the list. Thank you. Just finished re-reading Caste by Isabel Wilkerson.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 06:10 PM
Mar 2023

I need to read some mindless stuff now before I read your recommendation, but I'll get to it.

I recommend Caste if you are interested in this subject. But it isn't easy going.

GeoWilliam750

(2,555 posts)
4. The history of slavery in the US is really quite disgusting
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 06:35 PM
Mar 2023

Last edited Sun Mar 12, 2023, 08:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Another interesting thing is until recently, almost nothing is written about the history of blackbirding - the kidnapping of free black people into slavery, which was more common than it would seem.

There was much talk about the underground railroad - but there was relatively little data about how many people actually escaped - all indications suggest very few.

When one reads the actual data on slavery....

GeoWilliam750

(2,555 posts)
17. Possibly overstating
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 08:44 PM
Mar 2023

What I tend to look at is the historical level of slavery in the US in the core southern states, which had a roughly 30% slave ownership. Given the current level of strong support for Trump - I would put it at about this rate.

When looking at the difference between Authoritarian and Humanitarian in the US, and the strong support of Trump, I still come to this figure. Still, a better source is needed so I will delete this in the previous note.

70sEraVet

(5,262 posts)
5. Thanks, Peggy. I plan to read it. But we'll need to restore the 'Underground Railroad' ...
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 06:37 PM
Mar 2023

to get those books into Florida and Texas libraries!

japple

(10,459 posts)
7. I'm reading this now. It is hard to fathom how much courage, intelligent
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 07:13 PM
Mar 2023

planning, and faith that William and Ellen must have had. They were remarkable. And I'm only about 40% of the way into their story.

groundloop

(13,574 posts)
8. I might just have to get that book......
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 08:15 PM
Mar 2023

I just recently spent a few days in Charleston, SC. It's interesting that so many people I talked to said "You have to visit Charleston, there's so much history there".

Well, as far as I could tell the vast majority of that 'history' is pure evil. There's a monument dedicated to the Confederate Defenders of Charleston . I visited the Slave Market where human beings were bought and sold (slave traders would feed slaves very well for a few days prior to their action to ensure fetching a higher price). And half of all enslaved people brought into America came through the Charleston area.

My visit lit a fire under my ass to learn more about the history of slavery in America, and I think Master Slave Husband Wife will help with that.

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
9. For even a better and time relevant understanding.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 08:19 PM
Mar 2023

For anyone who has never read it, may I suggest Harriet Beecher Stowe's 1852 literary masterpiece, "Uncle Tom's Cabin, Or, Life Among the Lowly" -- volumes I and II. I'm sure that it is available online.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,469 posts)
15. When I finally got around to reading "Uncle Tom's Cabin"
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 08:42 PM
Mar 2023

I was completely blown away. To begin with, knowing when it was written, I feared it would be a slog of a read. The first fifty pages are somewhat slower than modern novels, but after that it picked up and I simply could not put it down. When a woman is asked to give some clothes for the children of escaped slaves, she thinks back on a child of hers who'd died, and whose clothes she still kept. I was almost undone by this:

And oh! mother that reads this, has there never been in your house a drawer, or a closet, the opening of which has been to you like the opening again of a little grave? Ah! happy mother that you are, if it has not been so.

It struck home how common the loss of children was back then, something almost expected, although every child lost was mourned deeply.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,447 posts)
10. I've been recommending "They Were Her Property" to everybody I know. Extremely illuminating
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 08:27 PM
Mar 2023

look into the role white women played in slavery and the through-line it carries to today.

WarGamer

(18,256 posts)
13. When you said the roots of slavery, I was expecting something a bit more... ancient.
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 08:35 PM
Mar 2023

Did you know that approximately 30% of the population of Rome around the time of Julius Caesar were slaves?

Let's be clear...

Human beings have been enslaving each other for as long as man has skulked around the planet.

The Atlantic Slave Trade that was responsible for African slaves in Europe, South America and the Americas starting in the 1500's would be about a one inch mark on a meter long timeline of the history of Global Slavery History.

European exploitation of native Africans began in the 1500's and accelerated greatly in the 18th Century.

European slavery was common pre-1500's... enslaving other Europeans or pretty much anyone captured in a war...

Around this time, the Ottoman Empire supported the keeping of slaves, approximately 20% of the population of Constantinople were slaves, mostly from Europe.


How about today?

AverageOldGuy

(3,382 posts)
14. Suggested reading:
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 08:36 PM
Mar 2023
Journal of a Residence on a Georgian Plantation in 1838–1839, by Fanny Kemble. Kemble was a British actress who came to the states and married a wealthy Georgia plantation owner who lived in Philadelphia, not near his plantations (Pierce Mease Butler). After several requests of her husband, he took her to the plantations on St. Simon's Island and Butler Island, on coastal Georgia. This is her journal of a few months -- she was horrified.

Google and read Wikipedia about:
-- Fanny Kemble
-- Pierce Butler (1744 - 1822)
-- Pierce Mease Butler (died 1867)
-- The Great Slave Auction

Also read the book The Weeping Time: Memory and the Largest Slave Auction in American History, Anne C. Bailey.

When all that is done, read The 1619 Project. It's long but is arranged to be very readable.
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