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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 11:53 PM Mar 2023

I no longer have it in me to take the "INDICTMENT WATCH" bait. It'll happen, or not.

MSNBC tonight was one big circle jerk over "Does this MEAN that JACK SMITH could ACTUALLY INDICT Trump BEFORE Alvin Bragg?"

It's now entered the realm of sport, and with the number of times Trump has gotten away with EVERYTHING, I refuse to sit on the edge of my seat in breathless anticipation of something that MAY or MAY NOT happen.

He may skate on the E. Jean Carroll defamation case if it's ruled that he insulted her "in his official capacity as President." I'm reading that thinking "Are you fucking KIDDING me?"

And the problem is these days no one is kidding me.

Trump will get indicted or he won't. Wake me when it's over.

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I no longer have it in me to take the "INDICTMENT WATCH" bait. It'll happen, or not. (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 2023 OP
The first half of my day was ruined. Went to bed super late, ecstatic Mar 2023 #1
Everything's on YouTube Sympthsical Mar 2023 #19
I agree and cilla4progress Mar 2023 #2
I feel like Trump is sucking all the air Tree Lady Mar 2023 #3
Grifter Trump made 1.5 million in three days off the, I will be indicted Tweet. sarcasmo Mar 2023 #9
Most Americans aren't following this hour by hour and getting worked up over it. Chakaconcarne Mar 2023 #17
Not worth paying attention anymore unless it says Donald Trump Is Indicted dalton99a Mar 2023 #4
For a while now, because of how things have gone up to this point, I've said the time to believe RockRaven Mar 2023 #5
INDICTMENT WATCH is my own inner state of mind Silent3 Mar 2023 #6
I just wonder if this latest grift, Demobrat Mar 2023 #7
Whenever you wonder if his latest grift is too much even for his followers, remind yourself Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #13
Edge of seat vs. Sound asleep aren't your only options Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #8
Waiting for GoDotard Blue Owl Mar 2023 #10
Watching the laughable justice system in this country is like watching dragnet yaesu Mar 2023 #11
I think something will happen, but my take is that when they get all excited Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #12
The thing I don't get is the police barricades Johnny2X2X Mar 2023 #14
I'm certainly not holding my breath Bettie Mar 2023 #15
For me, the indictment watch started when spanky was inaugurated. panader0 Mar 2023 #16
Pundits get paid no matter what - they never have to be right Sympthsical Mar 2023 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Mar 2023 #20

ecstatic

(32,640 posts)
1. The first half of my day was ruined. Went to bed super late,
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:03 AM
Mar 2023

woke up super early. I was refreshing DU every 15 minutes. Ended up with severe heartburn.

Nope. Not doing that again! I'll just wait until I'm alerted by text or something. It'll mean that I miss history unfolding but oh well.

Sympthsical

(9,024 posts)
19. Everything's on YouTube
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 10:23 AM
Mar 2023

When Queen Elizabeth fell ill/died, I had to go to a lab for the day. That morning, I had an ear bud in one ear on my way to campus streaming CNN, and I was kind of checking my phone between attempts trying to get DNA to dance across a gel electrophoresis. For the same reason you cite: It's history!

Kind of a messy business. Felt like I was not getting my experiment done because of the distraction. Then I realized - the internet exists. News will be there when I get home.

Sure enough, every news channels announcement/retrospective/footage was on YouTube when I got home. In the end, it didn't really matter than I was 45 minutes late to the party. I missed nothing.

Tree Lady

(11,419 posts)
3. I feel like Trump is sucking all the air
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:08 AM
Mar 2023

Out of our whole country. He loves this it's all about him all the time every news channel. He totally thinks this is more free publicity and he will get away with all of it.

I am sick to death of hearing about the guy. I have a feeling if he went to jail that is all they would talk about for years.

Chakaconcarne

(2,428 posts)
17. Most Americans aren't following this hour by hour and getting worked up over it.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 09:52 AM
Mar 2023

I think you're giving him too much credit...

Seems DU is spending more time on the play by play than MSM.

That is my opinion.

dalton99a

(81,372 posts)
4. Not worth paying attention anymore unless it says Donald Trump Is Indicted
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:12 AM
Mar 2023

Pundits and experts are full of shit. "Sources" don't know shit.


RockRaven

(14,874 posts)
5. For a while now, because of how things have gone up to this point, I've said the time to believe
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:12 AM
Mar 2023

that it will happen is after it has happened. There isn't any other way to deal with the near infinite false starts without being a willing dupe.

Silent3

(15,126 posts)
6. INDICTMENT WATCH is my own inner state of mind
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:21 AM
Mar 2023

Yes, it'll happen or not, but this rhetorical tautology doesn't ease my impatience and sense of urgency about the subject. If the news folks weren't spinning out endless speculation, I'd be doing it on my own, but with less data to go by.

Demobrat

(8,956 posts)
7. I just wonder if this latest grift,
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:28 AM
Mar 2023

announcing his own imminent arrest and then blasting out a quick fund-raising email, wasn’t a little blatant even for his snake oil guzzling redhats.

Considering it didn’t happen.

Hundreds of people have gone to jail for him, and more go every week. And he has done nothing for any of them.

All he does is ask for more money.

And more people to show up and risk arrest for him.

Eventually they have to notice.

Scrivener7

(50,897 posts)
13. Whenever you wonder if his latest grift is too much even for his followers, remind yourself
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 08:45 AM
Mar 2023

that nothing is too much for his followers.

He SAYS he raised a million and a half on it. I doubt that is true, but I bet he got half of that.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,537 posts)
8. Edge of seat vs. Sound asleep aren't your only options
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 12:41 AM
Mar 2023

Living in the grey uncertainty of life rather than black or white extremes may be more complicated, but I find it generally more realistic and rewarding.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
11. Watching the laughable justice system in this country is like watching dragnet
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 01:45 AM
Mar 2023

only Friday never leaves his apartment.

Scrivener7

(50,897 posts)
12. I think something will happen, but my take is that when they get all excited
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 08:43 AM
Mar 2023

that it's happening tomorrow? Tomorrow is when it won't happen.

And I'm not putting any eggs in the Bragg basket. I think it's too possible that will turn out to be a misdemeanor. But Smith and Willis seem to be closing in on something.

Maybe by summer we'll see something. But I reserve the right to change that estimate as summer approaches. As I have for so many years now. (My family has former ties to the NY construction industry. I've been waiting for 40 years.)

But I do have to say, DU seems much more civil about the whole question lately.

Johnny2X2X

(18,955 posts)
14. The thing I don't get is the police barricades
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 08:55 AM
Mar 2023

There were no leaks, outside of Trump himself. But the police was definitely preparing for the indictment, and there's no way they'd do so only based on Trump's words. The DA had to tell them to go ahead with their security plans.

Now maybe these new phone records made them amend their indictment and they have to bring it backl to the grand jury, hopefully today.

Bettie

(16,053 posts)
15. I'm certainly not holding my breath
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 08:58 AM
Mar 2023

because he does seem to get away with everything.

Not a whole lot of confidence in our "Justice" system...it generally doesn't apply to the ruling class.

Sympthsical

(9,024 posts)
18. Pundits get paid no matter what - they never have to be right
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 10:10 AM
Mar 2023

Imagine if the people on cable news or Twitter had the same expectations as other lines of work. Where the things they're saying, sourcing, or sharing have to be vaguely correct and true.

Half the pundit class would be out the door tomorrow.

Their only job is to keep people reading/watching/clicking. They don't have to be informative. They never even have to be right. They just have to get viewers.

My approach to Trump indictments is there in your OP title - it will either happen or not. I have no power over it. My watching or not watching affects it not at all. I'm not going to spend hours speculating or arguing about Garland or declaring that my crystal ball is better than someone else's magic 8 ball.

It's a fantastic waste of time. And I say that as someone who wastes a lot of time on the internet.

I read an OP last night where the person was talking about how physically and mentally exhausted they were from Indictment Watch. No one should be doing this to themselves. People are cashing checks on generating and sustaining that anxiety. Don't let them exploit you. You can read/watch nothing about any of this, and you will know if something happens the same exact time as everyone else.

Unless you're watching it all wryly, find the wrongness hilarious, and are approaching it from a, "The media really are terrible and not full of the best people" entertainment. Then I say go for it. I'm still laughing over the breathless Ides of March thing. Sources say!

I have sources in my home saying I might make toast in a little while. 50/50 they end up being right.

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