Does anyone else have the sinking feeling that Bragg has decided not to

[diehardblue]

indict the orange demon? He is playing with tfg's head with all these delays. In that case, continue to stick it to him and expose more of his insanity!

[NanceGreggs]

1. Nope. n/t

[Greybnk48]

47. Ditto. n/t

[applegrove]

2. There was that anti Michael Cohen lawyer who testified this past

week. A lawyer who worked with him. A person who seemed to be at the ready to slam him at the last moment.

[Walleye]

3. Has Stormy testified?

[MiHale]

4. Doubt it...

Donnie’s playing with his own mind he doesn’t need help from Bragg. Immense guilt can be debilitating probably first time he’s felt it doesn’t know how to handle it.

[Crazyleftie]

5. After some key lawyers left the office

I have no faith in Bragg...

[orangecrush]

6. Welcome to D.U.

[onenote]

24. Before you take the side of the lawyers that left the office, you might want to read this

https://terikanefield.com/the-trump-ny-criminal-investigation-the-saga-of-mark-pomerantz-alvin-bragg/

[Crazyleftie]

50. I read it

An opinion piece short on facts

[onenote]

7. Bigger question is whether the grand jury is divided on whether to indict.

While an indictment can issue if 12 or more of the 23 grand jurors vote in favor, a prosecutor may decide not to go forward if a substantial number of grand jurors vote against an indictment, given that it would presage potential difficulties in obtaining a conviction.

[gab13by13]

17. If Bragg can't get a big number of jurors to indict

then he may as well just drop his case. The bar is low for a grand jury.

[Poiuyt]

39. I heard that some of the jurors have concerns about whether a crime has been committed

Was Michael Cohen reimbursed from Trump's campaign, etc?

[onenote]

45. Hopefully not, but we don't know what testimony, documents, etc. the GJ has seen

Lots of folks have been making assumptions about this case without access to the information that will inform the decisions made by the GJ and the DA.

[we can do it]

8. Not at all

[hlthe2b]

9. No

[Beastly Boy]

10. What delays?

The grand jury meets regularly. The witnesses keep testifying. Trump keeps shitting his pants.

That's not delays, that's action.

[Scrivener7]

11. He'll indict. The question is, what will he indict for?

[boston bean]

15. My question exactly. May we be surprised with tax fraud charges?

I don’t know and am wait and see mode as per my usual. I am not getting my hopes up.

[Amishman]

29. I think the uncertainty might be around statute of limitations

NY's statute is two years for misdemeanors, five years for felonies - but the clock stops while the defendant is continuously outside of NY or his whereabouts are continuously unknown or unascertainable.

It takes quite a bit of stretch and groundwork to come up with enough time that the clock is stopped under those rules to keep it within the statute of limitations. Particularly since Trump's official residence was in NY even during most of his presidency, and it's hard to argue that a president's wheretabouts were unknown.

[wishstar]

38. He officially claimed Florida, not NY as official residency in 2019, 3 years after payoff to Stormy

so as long as GJ decides on felony charges, statute of limitatiions shouldn't be a problem.

I think Trump lawyer Tacopina's recently revealed conflict of interest where he was in contact with Stormy and Stormy's additional evidence involving communications years ago with Tacopina required some extra time for review by prosecutors and perhaps presentation of new evidence or rebuttal of the other Trump lawyer's testimony.

[inthewind21]

41. Really

How about those 4 years in the WH? Not aware of the legislation that addresses this very thing huh?

[Zeitghost]

43. That legislation does not apply to State Courts

Only Federal.

[Amishman]

48. Care to explain?

I might be missing something but I've read articles on the same uncertainty I mentioned.

Here is one from a few days ago from Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com/has-statute-limitations-run-out-stormy-daniels-payment-depends-how-you-count-opinion-1789338

[Ocelot II]

12. No.

Jeez, just because some imaginary schedule isn’t met, doesn’t mean it won’t happen. TFG got everybody’s shorts in a twist by making up some shit about how he was going to be arrested on Tuesday, and the media wanked nonstop over that, and people were suckered into believing it. But it was a load of bullshit; the grand jury isn’t finished yet. TFG punked you.

[diehardblue]

14. He didn"t punk me but he did his rethug minions who sent him money. Correction!

[Ocelot II]

21. You were if you believed TFG was going to be indicted last week.

That prediction originated in TFG’s colon. The grand jury wasn’t finished and there was no indication from Bragg that anything had changed. But when the thing that wasn’t going to happen didn’t happen, pearls were clutched and unwarranted assumptions were made - all because TFG lied and people took him seriously. That’s being punked.

[diehardblue]

26. Well, well and how do you know what the verdict will be? You are surmising just like

everybody else. No magic mirror. Everyone is free to discuss how they feel about it without being your definition of "being punked."

[Ocelot II]

30. I don't know. That's the point. And not knowing and having no way to know,

I am not jumping to any conclusions about the outcome. There might be an indictment (it's not a verdict); I'm inclined to think the grand jury will indict on some charge, since it takes only 12 of the 23 to issue a true bill, but maybe they won't. Regardless, there was never any solid reason to think an indictment would come out this week apart from TFG's announcement - which was based on nothing. Those who concluded that he would not be indicted at all just because it didn't happen this week are also basing their feelings about it on nothing.

[2naSalit]

18. Yup...

Just goes to show that he can go "ooga booga" and everybody scurries in a tizzy. Reminds me of a bunch of wild turkeys.

[BlackSkimmer]

22. He punked a lot of people here.

I read several OPs of people who stayed up all night waiting for something that was never going to happen.

[wnylib]

13. No. And I see nothing to base the question on.

[gab13by13]

16. Lol, I have been the big proponent of time matters,

but there are so many reasons for Bragg to delay the grand jury a few days and not indicting never crossed my mind.

Look at Trump's actions, they are a tell. Trump is scared shitless for a reason, all signs point that he realizes his delay tactics are coming to an end.

The E. Jean Carroll trial happens next month.

The Letitia James trial that can bring Trump down financially happens Oct. 2nd.

The Carroll/James lawsuits began in 2019,

I never doubted that Trump would be indicted by DOJ, my complaint has always been that it waited too long to open the investigations into Trump. I have taken criticism for that position but history has proven me right. It takes time to get Trump to trial because he used lawyers to commit his crimes, thank god for Jack Smith, as Harry Littman said, Smith is running a 2 minute offense while Garland didn't have a team on the field.

[2naSalit]

19. What delays?

[Jarqui]

20. There have been at least two bomb scares in the courts this week

I think that has been at least part of the problem

Trump Warns Of ‘Death And Destruction’ If He Is Charged In Hush Money Probe
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2023/03/24/trump-warns-of-death-and-destruction-if-he-is-charged-in-hush-money-probe/?sh=16eb5c331777

They have smear attacks on twitter against Bragg.

Trump posted a nasty thing yesterday holding a baseball bat poised to clobber Bragg in a photo.
https://www.aol.com/news/anger-trump-posts-picture-himself-053933204.html

“Threatening a prosecutor is a crime in NY. In fact MULTIPLE crimes: Harassment in the first degree NYPL 240.25; menacing in the second degree NYPL 120.14; stalking in the fourth or third degree NYPL 120.45 & 120.50 And that’s just for starters….” he tweeted.

How what Trump is doing is not obstruction of justice, I don't know.

It's called Obstructing Governmental Administration in NY state.
https://www.new-york-lawyers.org/obstructing-governmental-administration.html#:~:text=Second%20Degree%20OGA%3A%20The%20Elements%20of%20NY%20Penal%20Law%20195.05&text=If%20convicted%20of%20Second%20Degree,judge%20or%20prosecutor%20deem%20appropriate.

Generally, if you impair or hinder the administration of law or prevent a public servant, often, but not necessarily, a police officer, from performing his or her official duty and job, then you are close to having violated NY Penal Law 195.05. Because obstruction can be accidental or even intentional without being nefarious, the other crucial element that is required by law is that your intentional obstruction be pursued and done through some manner of intimidation, interference, physical force or an independently unlawful act.

Forget Stormy. Arrest him for that and deny him bail while keeping him in the court house he's going to be tried at - to protect the others at the court from being bombed.

How could that go to trial? They've got him dead to rights.

[lark]

23. I am paranoid too and have some fear of that.

Reality tells me, however, that this has gone too far. Bragg will indict and I predict Monday.

[diehardblue]

27. Thanks! I am not alone and being punked in any way by tfg.

[Chakaconcarne]

25. Not sure how credible this guy is or what kind of potential impact he could have...

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/03/23/robert-costello-trump-grand-jury-michael-cohen-ebof-vpx.cnn

[Pobeka]

28. You are being played by TFG.

There was no *official* announcement from SDNY that *anything* would happen this past week.

There was only another lying post by TFG that he was going to be "arrested".

What Bragg is going to do was completely unaffected by that post of TFG, which got your hopes up.

Bragg is on his own legal investigation and timeline resulting from that, and will indict or shutdown the investigation as appropriate. Based on the intensity of witnesses heading into the grand jury, it looks likely Bragg will indict at some point. There are no guarantees.

[Ocelot II]

31. TFG played the media, big time. If he has a superpower, it's that.

So he pulled this statement that he would be arrested on Tuesday out of his ass, which is where most of his pronouncements originate, and the cable tv talking heads chased it around like a litter of kittens after a ping-pong ball. And, of course, that led to a whole lot of angst among hoi polloi (that's us) based on nothing but TFG's gaseous emissions. The media obviously don't know better - even after seven years of this sort of crap - but we should.

[Pobeka]

36. The media doesn't care about truth.

It's a sorry state of affairs. Even with the extreme consequences this country and the planet faces at this point in history, the media still is hungry for the easiest, shiniest, attention grabbing headline that will generate some $$$ for the bottomline.

Trump doesn't even have to be a particular genius to use that characteristic of the media.

[pwb]

32. City taxpayers and voters would react negatively to that.

IMO.

[samnsara]

33. just the opposite! hes PISSED now!

[JohnSJ]

34. No idea, but the other cases against him should proceed first because right before t wrong, this

case could weaken the other cases which are far more serious, and exactly why trump wants the Bragg case to proceed first.

Bragg should have brought this case years ago when Cohen was sentenced

[Fiendish Thingy]

35. No, I don't get that feeling.

The passage of time, and the passage of a deadline only expected by TFG is not evidence of any decision.

Bragg’s previous reputation provides some indication that everything is tenuous, but the fact that he has been presenting evidence to a grand jury would seem to indicate the process is moving forward.

[greatauntoftriplets]

37. No.

[GoCubsGo]

40. No, but I do believe that Trump made his false arrest claim, in part,

to foment despair on the Left. Looks like it's working, sadly. With his lie, he gave the appearance that there are delays, when there are not. Bragg is going about his job. So are Fauni Willis, Jack Smith, Letitia James, and others. With the exception of Jack Smith, they all have other unrelated cases to handle. As much as we'd like them to focus only on Trump, that's not how their jobs work.

[Hortensis]

42. :) No.

[MineralMan]

44. Nope. Sounds like you do, though.

[sarisataka]

46. Nope, I follow the serenity prayer

[EndlessWire]

49. I don't attribute anything manipulative to Trump's

call that he was going to be arrested on Tuesday. Except, of course, that he called for his base to rise up in protest. But, he couldn't know, and he is scared shitless of the process. I think it was just a best guess, and he was wrong.

Now he gets to go to Waco. There will be a hullabaloo over his speech; we'll see what happens. Texans used to have respect. Now they have Trump.

I think the delay is due to the attorney conflict, and possibly another witness. Let's get it right before Trump has to show up. He's not getting perp walked by the SS, so I have revised my expectations and now am looking forward to just a mug shot with his Hitler frown preserved for posterity.

I think that Bragg will prosecute. He has no choice now, what with the threat of violence against him and his crew. The whole question boils down to what the GJ does. Is there a felony in Trump's future, or not?