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global1

(25,263 posts)
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 04:37 PM Mar 2023

Has Anyone Seen Pics Of The J6 Gallows Being Erected Outside The Capitol?....

I've never seen any pics of the gallows being erected on the Capitol grounds on J6.

I just can't believe that there were no photographers on the scene taking pictures of that happening. It always puzzled me as to why we've never seen pics.

Somebody had to be carrying lumber, hammers and nails to the Capitol grounds to build it. Somebody had to be supervising the building of the structure and a number of people working on the building of it.

Did I just miss seeing such pics or were none made available to us to see?

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Has Anyone Seen Pics Of The J6 Gallows Being Erected Outside The Capitol?.... (Original Post) global1 Mar 2023 OP
I have often wondered who built that gallows on Jan 6. But I not read anything about it. riversedge Mar 2023 #1
P.S.: I've Seen Pics Of The Gallows After They Were Erected..... global1 Mar 2023 #2
Same here Rebl2 Mar 2023 #8
Because Police were pinned down on the steps fighting Captain Zero Mar 2023 #32
Like this? FakeNoose Mar 2023 #3
Looks plenty strong to me - those are huge beams. Blues Heron Mar 2023 #5
Regardless AS To Whether It Functioned As A Real Gallows..... global1 Mar 2023 #6
"Fake Noose" is right JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2023 #10
Agree, it's protest theatre AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #14
Scare tactics maybe bdamomma Mar 2023 #11
You would ForgedCrank Mar 2023 #19
So you're saying "Only" attempted murder? LakeArenal Mar 2023 #23
Yes Goonch Mar 2023 #4
Is This A Person That Built Them Or Just A Person In The Crowd That Jumped Up On Them..... global1 Mar 2023 #9
What laws were broken by setting up this thing? Or by climbing on it? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2023 #22
I Don't Think That Erecting Anything On The Capitol Grounds Are Allowed..... global1 Mar 2023 #26
Ok, maybe constructing the thing is worth a ticket, but not jail time. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2023 #31
No permit was obtained. Not zoned for a gallows. Captain Zero Mar 2023 #33
I saw the caption for the linked pic at the Daily Mail BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #25
The two main posts are treated 4x4s Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2023 #28
I'm not finding any images of it being constructed blogslug Mar 2023 #7
or this person???? bdamomma Mar 2023 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Mar 2023 #15
One of the more tin-foilesque claims on DU is that the bomber is the traitor MTG Celerity Mar 2023 #16
tin-foilesque?? Sogo Mar 2023 #18
as if she, as a newly minted House member, is going to go out and carry explosive bombs around Celerity Mar 2023 #20
Far-right Trump fans planned to hang lawmakers within hours of his call for 'wild' protests Celerity Mar 2023 #13
I don't see any evidence of nails Effete Snob Mar 2023 #17
I didn't realize how small it was intrepidity Mar 2023 #21
If Someone Erected It On The Spot Or Carried It In..... global1 Mar 2023 #27
Agreed intrepidity Mar 2023 #29
Yes Me. Mar 2023 #24
dassit? Stinky The Clown Mar 2023 #30

global1

(25,263 posts)
2. P.S.: I've Seen Pics Of The Gallows After They Were Erected.....
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 04:43 PM
Mar 2023

I'd like to see pics of the gallows being erected and the people that built it.

It seems to me that such pictures of those people might be very telling. Who they were?
Were they members of any organized group? Were they identified and are they in jail now?

FakeNoose

(32,703 posts)
3. Like this?
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 04:44 PM
Mar 2023


The photo of the gallows was displayed on DU on or after January 6, 2021 but I have always contended that this wasn't intended to be a real gallows. It would have collapsed whenever they attempted to actually hang anybody on it. It was a replica for the scare effect, that's all.

(link) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/01/06/entire-dc-guard-activated-after-pro-trump-protestors-storm-capitol-building/


global1

(25,263 posts)
6. Regardless AS To Whether It Functioned As A Real Gallows.....
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 04:49 PM
Mar 2023

there was a message being made and sent as a result of the building of.

I'd like to know more details about how they came to be and who commissioned the building of - and who built them.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
10. "Fake Noose" is right
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 04:56 PM
Mar 2023

Being a former Boy Scout, I know a thing or two about knots. That is not a hangman's noose. It's a loop of red rope. Then, someone wound some more red rope around a beer can to attempt to simulate the coils of a real knot. The shiny beer can is visible in other photo angles.

And yes, the carpantry looks fragile and unstable.

It would be deemed unsafe as a stage prop

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,052 posts)
14. Agree, it's protest theatre
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 05:05 PM
Mar 2023

Like the Iraq War protesters hanging Dubya in effigy.
It's ugly and it grabs attention (and it made for a great press photo on 1/6), but they could not have hanged anyone with that.

ForgedCrank

(1,782 posts)
19. You would
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 05:36 PM
Mar 2023

be correct.
It was not intended to actually hang someone.
Like everything else that day, it was just stupid and childish.

global1

(25,263 posts)
9. Is This A Person That Built Them Or Just A Person In The Crowd That Jumped Up On Them.....
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 04:52 PM
Mar 2023

after they were built in the height of the insurrection?

Was this person identified? Is he in jail now?

There's a story behind these gallows and I'd like to know what that story is?

global1

(25,263 posts)
26. I Don't Think That Erecting Anything On The Capitol Grounds Are Allowed.....
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 06:17 PM
Mar 2023

I don't know that its a law - but I'm sure that someone would be ticketed for putting it up.
Trespassing maybe?

Climbing on it is not breaking a law. But what about participation in an insurrection?

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
31. Ok, maybe constructing the thing is worth a ticket, but not jail time.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 04:58 AM
Mar 2023

Building it, and climbing on it, seems to be part of a demonstration. Going into the Capitol building, breaking things, stealing things threatening people, that's participation in insurrection; that's who should get time behind bars.

BumRushDaShow

(129,279 posts)
25. I saw the caption for the linked pic at the Daily Mail
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 06:11 PM
Mar 2023

which credited New Yorker (magazine). I recently decided to go on and sub to it since I have popped on and off the site for years reading interesting articles and I did a search and found the article that has an embedded video where the still came from - https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/what-we-learned-about-trump-pence-and-the-january-6th-mob

The video is about halfway down the page and the short clip where that still came from, starts at 1.05.

It seems like the thing was already up by the time the guy in the clip was gingerly standing on the platform and it looks like he was possibly trying to move the noose out of the way because he had something that possibly looked like small binoculars in his right hand. At that point, whoever was filming, pans away.

But for the first time, I actually found a couple images taken from different angles that I hadn't seen before that someone had tweeted on that day -




Lindsay Jackson
@ljackson_ks
·
Follow
Can we talk about the gallows that have been erected outside the #USCapitol ???? #WashingtonDC #CapitolHill #DCProtests
Image
Image
4:57 PM · Jan 6, 2021






The 2nd pic appears to have a poster sign near the bottom that says "THIS IS ART".

I am guessing it was mostly pre-assembled with the braces loosely attached on single posts, and there were pre-drilled holes on the other posts so that the braces could swing in place and be secured with bolts using the pre-drilled holes. The main beams look like 4x8 fence posts that were cut to size.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,388 posts)
28. The two main posts are treated 4x4s
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 07:50 PM
Mar 2023

Agreed that it looks like it was mostly pre-assembled then the parts put together quickly on site. Braces and platform frame appear to be 2x4. Stairs may be 2x6.

blogslug

(38,007 posts)
7. I'm not finding any images of it being constructed
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 04:51 PM
Mar 2023

I did find that, there were actually three nooses among the mob that day:

Snopes:

This was not the only noose on display as pro-Trump extremists stormed the Capitol. Photographer Victor J. Blue captured another that showed a Trump supporter carrying a make-shift mannequin with a noose arounds its neck and the word "traitor" written across its chest.

At least one other noose was displayed during the riot involving a camera cord. At one point, a group of rioters grabbed and destroyed camera equipment...


And, according to this NBC Washington story, the noose from the gallows is in FBI custody:

...No one has been criminally charged in connection with the noose, which is in the possession of the FBI’s Washington Field Office after being found by Dutch journalist Michael Persson, who picked it up as rioters departed...

Response to bdamomma (Reply #12)

Sogo

(4,989 posts)
18. tin-foilesque??
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 05:28 PM
Mar 2023

She was sworn in to Congress on January 3; days later, she was asking for a pardon.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/former-trump-aide-who-testified-jan-6-committee-says-marjorie-taylor-greene-asked-pardon/U5MPVI6G7JF5LBB77TCBGXLKXU/

ATLANTA — A former assistant to former President Donald Trump gave blockbuster testimony in a surprise hearing held by the January 6th Committee on Tuesday.

Cassidy Hutchinson is the same aid who last week said she believed Georgia congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene asked the White House for a presidential pardon.

Celerity

(43,463 posts)
20. as if she, as a newly minted House member, is going to go out and carry explosive bombs around
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 05:40 PM
Mar 2023

and personally plant them

that is ultra dangerous covert work and potentially open treason/rebellion punishable by decades in prison or the death penalty if they go off and kill people

she is not going to take such a monstrous gamble after just gaining a foothold of true power to cause far greater mayhem from a political pulpit of chaos


come on!




plus the person in the video doesn't resemble her body build nor her gait

Celerity

(43,463 posts)
13. Far-right Trump fans planned to hang lawmakers within hours of his call for 'wild' protests
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 05:04 PM
Mar 2023

Sorry no pic of it being erected, but here is a discussion by the traitors amongst themselves about doing it:



New research has revealed that Jan. 6 rioters plotted to murder U.S. officials weeks before the attack

https://flux.community/adele-m-stan/2021/06/trump-fans-january-6-hang-mike-pence-gallows/

On Jan. 6, a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol chanting a chilling refrain: “Hang Mike Pence!” Inside the Capitol, little did the then-vice president or the lawmakers attempting to certify the Electoral College votes of the 2020 presidential election know that the apparatus for doing just that had been erected on the Capitol grounds.

The Capitol insurrection had been months in the making, with so-called “Stop the Steal” protests organized by far-right political operatives in state capitals and elsewhere, including six such protests in Washington, D.C., over the course of three months. Instrumental in the incitement to violence was a Dec. 19 tweet by then-President Donald Trump summoning his most ardent fans to Washington to assure his certification as winner of an election he had lost.

Investigative work by Advance Democracy Inc., a nonprofit research group, shows that the very day that Trump issued the tweet calling his supporters to the nation’s capital for a Jan. 6 protest, denizens of an anonymous web board called TheDonald.win got busy plotting their contribution to what Trump promised would be a “wild” protest on the grounds of the U.S. Capitol. What could be more wild than having an apparatus of execution on the premises, fully functional and at the ready?

Within hours of Trump’s Dec. 19 post, a plan was in the works among those planning a Jan. 6 trip to Washington, D.C., at the president’s behest.

snip





 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
17. I don't see any evidence of nails
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 05:16 PM
Mar 2023

It looks like it was precut, drilled and then just bolted together.

https://www.nationalmemo.com/capitol-riot-gallows

Trumpists Made Plans To Build Gallows Weeks Before Capitol Riot

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/15/thedonald-capitol-attack-advance-democracy/

Gallows or guillotines? The chilling debate on TheDonald.win before the Capitol siege.

global1

(25,263 posts)
27. If Someone Erected It On The Spot Or Carried It In.....
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 06:25 PM
Mar 2023

a journalist with a camera - I think - would have deemed that newsworthy and take a picture of the construction or set-up.

I'm not a journalist or a news cameraman - but if I saw such a thing happening - I would have thought it was newsworthy and taken a picture of the happening.

With all the footage we have of the J6 insurrection. With just about everyone carrying a phone with a camera now - I just can't understand why we've never seen a picture of it being set-up or erected with the people that brought it to the so-called party.

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