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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:32 AM Apr 2023

You can dress it up any way you care to and give lengthy "explanations" for the fragile condition

of our democracy, but what it boils down to is that we allowed a spoiled-rotten brat---a man-child---to seize the spotlight in our daily lives and then throw a vicious tantrum when he was pushed off stage.

He's now writhing on the floor---kicking and screaming with a very full diaper.

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You can dress it up any way you care to and give lengthy "explanations" for the fragile condition (Original Post) Atticus Apr 2023 OP
Yeah, leave Trump on the floor PJMcK Apr 2023 #1
Writing Trump off as finished is a mistake at this point. summer_in_TX Apr 2023 #9
Writing Trump off as finished is a mistake at this point. summer_in_TX Apr 2023 #10
Well, yes. But I think the fragile condition of our Democracy is due to the fact Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #2
a lie was allowed to run rampant. that's why. mopinko Apr 2023 #3
Delusionally Malevolent Closely Held Beliefs Enshrined As The Law Of The Land Is The Problem MayReasonRule Apr 2023 #4
Can I kick him while he's down? CaptainTruth Apr 2023 #5
Get in line. rubbersole Apr 2023 #6
When he croaks DENVERPOPS Apr 2023 #8
It started long before him, though. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #7

PJMcK

(22,050 posts)
1. Yeah, leave Trump on the floor
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:36 AM
Apr 2023

Our media covers him because it's such a great shit show.

But the truth is, Trump is finished. His base diminishes every day. Even man Republicans are tired of him.

Ivanka can change his diaper. America doesn't need his crap.

summer_in_TX

(2,754 posts)
9. Writing Trump off as finished is a mistake at this point.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:50 PM
Apr 2023

He just got a lot of endorsements from new Florida Republican lawmakers just as DeSantis was coming to Washington to woo them. A power move. Sure he has high negatives with wide swaths of the electorate, but he remains highly viable to become the Republican nominee – and there are scenarios in which he could win. Unfortunately.

Matthew Dowd
@matthewjdowd
All those people saying Trump can’t win in 2024 are deluding themselves. First, he is no less popular today than he was in 2020. Second, if he had gotten 50,000 more votes in three states he would be President even losing national popular vote by 5 million.

Number of people who identify as GOP is same as it was in 2008, 2012 & 2016. And GOP voters are more solidly behind Trump than they were for McCain or Romney. Spending time & money to convert GOP voters is inefficient and ineffective. Strategy should be on independent voters.

Also, the number of people who identify as gop is the same as it was in 2012 and 2008.

Also, Trump’s favorable rating is a net 20 points higher today among GOP voters than it was among GOP voters in 2016 when he won the nomination.

Something to keep in mind: in latest Economist/YouGov national poll, Trump has as high a favorable rating among GOP voters as Biden has among Dem. Voters. And more GOP voters want Trump to run again, than Demo voters want Biden to run again.

summer_in_TX

(2,754 posts)
10. Writing Trump off as finished is a mistake at this point.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:52 PM
Apr 2023

He just got a lot of endorsements from new Florida Republican lawmakers just as DeSantis was coming to Washington to woo them. A power move. Sure he has high negatives with wide swaths of the electorate, but he remains highly viable to become the Republican nominee – and there are scenarios in which he could win. Unfortunately.

Matthew Dowd
@matthewjdowd
All those people saying Trump can’t win in 2024 are deluding themselves. First, he is no less popular today than he was in 2020. Second, if he had gotten 50,000 more votes in three states he would be President even losing national popular vote by 5 million.

Number of people who identify as GOP is same as it was in 2008, 2012 & 2016. And GOP voters are more solidly behind Trump than they were for McCain or Romney. Spending time & money to convert GOP voters is inefficient and ineffective. Strategy should be on independent voters.

Also, the number of people who identify as gop is the same as it was in 2012 and 2008.

Also, Trump’s favorable rating is a net 20 points higher today among GOP voters than it was among GOP voters in 2016 when he won the nomination.

Something to keep in mind: in latest Economist/YouGov national poll, Trump has as high a favorable rating among GOP voters as Biden has among Dem. Voters. And more GOP voters want Trump to run again, than Demo voters want Biden to run again.

Scrivener7

(51,018 posts)
2. Well, yes. But I think the fragile condition of our Democracy is due to the fact
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:57 AM
Apr 2023

that 30% of our population does not want a Democracy.

The spoiled brat just gave them permission to say that loud, and to believe their bigoted reasons for that were acceptable.

mopinko

(70,237 posts)
3. a lie was allowed to run rampant. that's why.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 10:14 AM
Apr 2023

a lie that we all saw coming from oct 16 on.
he needed the lie, they needed the lie.
they are as weak as newborn kittens.

that, and all the serious ppl that pretended that a mad man was a rational actor.

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
4. Delusionally Malevolent Closely Held Beliefs Enshrined As The Law Of The Land Is The Problem
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 11:26 AM
Apr 2023

Delusion only grants delusion standing, never reason.

This is that.

Trump is just the tip of the firmly entrenched Nat-C Fascist Turd that is the GOP et al.

That is the problem.

Germany rightly outlawed fascism within their country. They criminalized fascism and outlawed their National Socialist Party in it's entirety.

It's way past time that the United States do the same.

DENVERPOPS

(8,845 posts)
8. When he croaks
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 12:35 PM
Apr 2023

he will be buried at a nearby cemetery, where he has already chosen his burial lot......

The Cemetery, in advance preparation for his demise, has surrounded the actual 2'x6' gravesite with concrete slabs as far as the eye can see, complete with area drains every 4 feet.

Biden could balance the budget, AND repay the nation's debt, by selling ten dollar tickets for "access" to his gravesite or the immediate area surrounding it......Hell, I would drop a C-Note for a ticket to have that opportunity. We all could help to give him yet another "FIRST" record: Largest golden shower ever...........

Sky Jewels

(7,146 posts)
7. It started long before him, though.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 12:29 PM
Apr 2023

The GOP has been plotting this since the 70s. Stacking the courts, insisting on unlimited money in politics, taking over the media, destroying public education, getting the ignorant masses to vote against their own interests time and time again ... it's all part of the oligarchs' long game of taking away people's political representation and transferring as much wealth as possible to the very, very top.

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